Big Win for the 2nd and 1st amendment.

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http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/01/secret-gun-rights-provision-in-obamacare-2556046.html

At least one great thing is gonna come from Obama care.

Big Thanks Harry Reid

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We have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it.

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We have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it.

When the righties had their panties in a wad on account of Pelosi's statement, I made this exact point. Seems I was correct (again). Congress is so sloppy that you can't know what is in a complex bill until it has passed.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/01/secret-gun-rights-provision-in-obamacare-2556046.html

At least one great thing is gonna come from Obama care.

Big Thanks Harry Reid

I dont think it is going to matter much

I just finished reading the applicable area

It only references what can or can not be done under the umbrella of that specific bill

It does not affect anything done outside of it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Before you guys go off the deep end, you may want to research the doc to see what it actually says.
Media bozos...when will you ever learn?

Here ya' go...

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"....Big Government even goes so far as to claim that reports are that the “amendment says the government cannot collect ‘any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.’” Other’s are repeating the same…

The problem is that Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c. only relates to the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare):

(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS- A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to–
`(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or
`(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.

`(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION- None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to–
`(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;
`(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition;
or`(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

`(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS- None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.

`(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE- A premium rate may not be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied, and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon–
`(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; or
`(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.`

(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS- No individual shall be required to disclose any information under any data collection activity authorized under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act relating to–
`(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; or
`(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition.’.

In a nutshell, under Obamacare you can’t be required to provide information to doctors or health plans about legally owned guns, nor can your insurance rates be affected by such ownership. The government, in the execution of Obamacare, cannot collect information about or use information from other government databases about legally owned guns.

There’s noting in there that prevents the another agency from implementing gun and/or ammunition registration. If such an agency (BATF, DOJ, FBI, etc.) did implement such a scheme it would be illegal for the government to use such data in the execution of Obamacare’s mandates – that is all.
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