regulator 0 #1 December 16, 2012 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8b_1355643365 This should fire a few people up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #2 December 16, 2012 Not the first time I've seen it and it still gives me tears of anger.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #3 December 16, 2012 Should have been Charles Schumer in that diner with that woman. His little smirk. Obviously he didn't get the point. The woman's speech made a lot of sense. We need fight gun control or we are doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #4 December 16, 2012 She is still 100% correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #5 December 16, 2012 QuoteShould have been Charles Schumer in that diner with that woman. His little smirk. Obviously he didn't get the point. The woman's speech made a lot of sense. We need fight gun control or we are doomed. Does "doomed" include miniature people who are already dead and currently lying in morgues, or just those who ain't dead yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #6 December 17, 2012 same here. RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #7 December 17, 2012 You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here’s why. It’s because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single ‘victim’ of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he’ll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody. CNN’s article says that if the body count “holds up,” this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer’s face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer’s identity? None that I’ve seen yet because they don’t sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you’ve just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next. You can help by forgetting you ever read this man’s name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news. I know...it's not Morgan Freeman...but it still makes sense.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #8 December 17, 2012 Quote You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here’s why. It’s because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single ‘victim’ of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he’ll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody. CNN’s article says that if the body count “holds up,” this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer’s face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer’s identity? None that I’ve seen yet because they don’t sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you’ve just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next. You can help by forgetting you ever read this man’s name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news. .... You've muist have been the smartest guy in town. Holy Sh*t. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #9 December 17, 2012 Quote. You can help by turning off the news. Since when did burying your head in the sand help? Try to be part of the solution and not part of the problem.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #10 December 17, 2012 QuoteQuote. You can help by turning off the news. Since when did burying your head in the sand help? Try to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. Translation: Agree with me and my Radical Left leaders because we know what is best for you and the rest of the country.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #11 December 17, 2012 QuoteQuote. You can help by turning off the news. Since when did burying your head in the sand help? Try to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. Here is where the debate for this belongs I snipped this from biggovernment.com QuoteA troubling revelation has broken regarding a mental health bill recently defeated in Connecticut during this calendar year. Had it passed, that bill could have possibly taken Adam Lanza off the streets so he would not have been free to commit his heinous act on December 14. In February 2012, Connecticut Senate Bill 452 (SB452) was put forward to remedy the fact that Connecticut was one of less than ten states in the U.S. to lack an "assisted outpatient treatment" (AOT) law. But the bill was passed to Connecticut's Joint Committee on Judiciary in March, where it quietly faded away because of opposition by those who viewed it as "egregious" and "outrageously discriminatory." Had this law passed, it may have forced Adam Lanza to be treated for his alleged mental illness instead of allowing him to roam free, and ultimately to kill 26 persons and himself in a vindictive rage on Friday. Although there is some variation, the way these laws work in other states is simple: AOT laws preempt older statutes that only allow the mentally ill to be forcibly institutionalized for treatment if they've done harm to themselves or others. This is possible because AOT laws allow a state to institutionalize a mentally ill person for treatment if the state has reason to suspect such institutionalization will prevent the individual from doing harm to self or others. Why didn't the legislation pass? Because the ACLU and other "civil liberties" groups and individuals cried foul. The ACLU in particular said 452 would "infringe on patients' privacy rights by expanding [the circle of] who can medicate individuals without their consent." They also said it infringed on patient rights by reducing the number of doctors' opinions necessary to commit someone to institutionalization. Not advocating anything Just trying to put the conversation in the correct corner This shooting is an isolated terrible thing, but, We need to be more afraid of those who would exploit it to gain political advantage to push through knee jert policies that ultimatly take away freedoms The TSA and the Patriot Act are two good examples of my point"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #12 December 17, 2012 guns should be banned for vegansscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #13 December 17, 2012 So whats your solution? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #14 December 17, 2012 QuoteSo whats your solution? Posted previously.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #15 December 17, 2012 Repost it then. I'm not a mindreader. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #16 December 17, 2012 Quote Repost it then. I'm not a mindreader. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #17 December 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteShould have been Charles Schumer in that diner with that woman. His little smirk. Obviously he didn't get the point. The woman's speech made a lot of sense. We need fight gun control or we are doomed. Does "doomed" include miniature people who are already dead and currently lying in morgues, or just those who ain't dead yet? Doomed; that rights are further taken from us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #18 December 17, 2012 Quote .... Doomed as a nation that rights are further taken from us. Methinks, your nation needs more schools resp. better grammatical education. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #19 December 17, 2012 Quote Quote Repost it then. I'm not a mindreader. Kallend has two posts on this thread. If he posted his soluton on another thread then I was asking him to repost it on this thread. Why is that so hard for you to figure out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #20 December 17, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Repost it then. I'm not a mindreader. Kallend has two posts on this thread. If he posted his soluton on another thread then I was asking him to repost it on this thread. Why is that so hard for you to figure out? Why can't you read by yourself? Is that so hard for you? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #21 December 17, 2012 Quote Quote .... Doomed as a nation that rights are further taken from us. Methinks, your nation needs more schools resp. better grammatical education. Here I fixed it for you. Doomed; that rights are further taken from us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpreguy 14 #22 December 17, 2012 Rushmc accurately identified a large part of a problem, and can be considered as an intelligent response to those who are asking, "What do we do to stop this?" No gun law would have stopped this school shooting, as the guns were stolen from a person who lawfully purchased them. If stolen is too strong of a word, then "taken " would suffice. Rushmc has identified the consequences of years (since 1972) of "Willowbrook" federal lawsuits, consent decrees, and the ACLU mindset of making sure no one is forcibly medicated without their consent-or institutionalized. Willowbrook was a state mental hospital in New Jersey with appalling conditions. Forced sterilization of mentally retarded women, mentally defective inmates locked up, etc.. OK so far. But, as is pointed out in this discussion of the failure of Connecticutt Senate Bill 252; this "Willowbrook do gooder" mentality has gone to extremes, and as a result, all across the US we have these mental defectives running loose. Or, not being forced to take their meds. The so called "homeless" population is largely the consequence of this do gooder Willowbrook mentality, where society, in this case children and school workers suffered the consequences of this ACLU human rights mentality gone too far. Yes, when those mentally defective persons are set free their rights as individuals are preserved. Unfortunately, this individual freedom of these mental defectives comes at a price of the safety of the public. So, to those who are asking "what can we do to prevent future massacres?", well, one thing is to lock up, or forcibly medicate those mentally defective persons. Lower the standard of enforcibility to accomplish this end. Don't like that? Then endure more of the consquences of the hundreds of thousnds of mentally defective persons freed and ignored by the "Willowbrook do gooders". Google the Willowbrook topic and see how there is absolute joy, everytime the rights and freedoms of these mentally defective persons is accomplished. Well, do gooders, the Sandy Hooks' and Michigaqn school shootings and hundreds more are the consequences of this " freedom for all "mentality. Freedom to wreak the heinous acts resulting from their demented menatal states. Keep "Willowbrooking" and wringing your hands about the consequences. Oh yeah- and blame guns for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #23 December 17, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Repost it then. I'm not a mindreader. Kallend has two posts on this thread. If he posted his soluton on another thread then I was asking him to repost it on this thread. Why is that so hard for you to figure out? Why can't you read by yourself? Is that so hard for you? --------------------------------------------------------- show me on THIS THREAD where he posted his solution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikempb 0 #24 December 17, 2012 Great clip Regulator!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #25 December 17, 2012 Chicago has it all figured out. Gun ban? Proving yet again, that criminals don't obey the laws we have. Lock up the loonies, hold gun owners responsible for the proper storage of weapons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
