kelpdiver 2 #301 December 19, 2012 Quote I believe it is that shift that has caused the reduction in usage. I do not think that simply legalizing it will have the same effect. I also don't think that the strategy adopted by Portugal will ever fly in the US. Look at the anger and dismay of offering public health care in any shape or form. Now imagine proposing free public health care for drug users... We're halfway to legalization with pot. Looks like a not too bumpy cutover to the rest of the way. Maybe same with E. But yes, if it is more broad (meth, coke, crack, ...), it's no slam dunk and the gains will be outweighed by added costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shredex 0 #302 December 20, 2012 Here's a question, Why is one of the victims fathers laughing...he looks like an actor to me... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w confusing... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #303 December 20, 2012 Look up the five stages of grief and you'll see the first is denial. Are you seriously doubting that the Sandy Hook shooting took place?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shredex 0 #304 December 20, 2012 Oh, it definitely took place. Just think its rather odd for this guy to be grinning and then when it's time to shoot he puts his game face on as if they guy has been taught in the art of acting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #305 December 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteI made my proposal. Let teachers opt to carry. Give them a chance in hell. metal detectors could be an answer, but seems like overkill for grade school where this sort of thing is less likely than a tornado ripping it up. In a more gun deaths focus, legalize drugs. Legalize drugs? I think prescription drugs are a big part of this problem, so find it interesting you would indicate legalization of drugs as an option to reduce these mass shootings. Quoteso having repeated it again, answer the fucking question already with something that isn't pie in the sky fantasy. We know why you can't...this problem is only easy to solve in theory, where costs don't need to be counted. reality is a bitch. I don't think reality is a bitch at all. The rest of the western world seems to have figured it out. The US had a shooting in a school, a mall and a movie theatre all in one week alone. Most other western civilized countries don't even have that in a year, or a decade. So, there is indeed no 100% cure for this. But many other countries have opted to try and reduce these incidents from happening. Most relatively succesful. What have you (in a general sense) done since Columbine, the various University shootings, Ft. Hood, Aurora? What are you going to do now, after Newtown? Probably nothing meaningful. On the issue of costs, how incredibly sick is it that you spend trillions on warfare around the globe, but now you are worried about costs to prevent mass shootings in your own country. No wonder your reality is a bitch, your priorities are as fucked up as they get. actually this is not just an american problem... And let’s not point fingers at Americans too quickly when it’s time to talk about shootings in schools or universities. Only one city in North America has had three of them in the last 25 years. And it’s not in “cowboyland” Texas, but right here in Montreal with its shootings at the Polytechnique institute in 1989, Concordia University in 1992 and Dawson College in 2006. And then we had the shooting outside Pauline Marois; victory party after the quebec election this year -- so let's not get too uppity about things...If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #306 December 20, 2012 Quote Oh, it definitely took place. Just think its rather odd for this guy to be grinning and then when it's time to shoot he puts his game face on as if they guy has been taught in the art of acting. You want to imply something with your post. This father, shaken to the marrow, hardly is able to control some kind of automatism when beeing greeted or "invited" for a speech, especially about the death of his little kid.... Incredible, how many idiots spread their sh*t openly. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linebckr83 3 #307 December 20, 2012 I love how you end every post with some low-blow remark about how everyone is an idiot but you. Care to contribute to the discussion? "Are you coming to the party? Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!" Flying Hellfish #828 Dudist #52 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #308 December 20, 2012 Quote I love how you end every post with some low-blow remark about how everyone is an idiot but you. Care to contribute to the discussion? Discussion? Which one? - About the "news" of the OP? - About the weird ideas of someone else? I know I'm no idiot. So no need to discuss this. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #309 December 20, 2012 Quote *** His thoughts (and I agree) - "People have an unrealistic expectation of their own abilities in these kinds of high stress situations". Otherwise known as "I wanted too many action movies" We see a lot of that is this very forum. A lot of would-be Rambos post here.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #310 December 20, 2012 Quote Quote *** His thoughts (and I agree) - "People have an unrealistic expectation of their own abilities in these kinds of high stress situations". Otherwise known as "I wanted too many action movies" We see a lot of that is this very forum. A lot of would-be Rambos post here. Ah your mind reader machine is still broken"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #311 December 20, 2012 Quoteactually this is not just an american problem... And let’s not point fingers at Americans too quickly when it’s time to talk about shootings in schools or universities. Only one city in North America has had three of them in the last 25 years. And it’s not in “cowboyland” Texas, but right here in Montreal with its shootings at the Polytechnique institute in 1989, Concordia University in 1992 and Dawson College in 2006. And then we had the shooting outside Pauline Marois; victory party after the quebec election this year -- so let's not get too uppity about things... I agree, happens everywhere...just doesn't seem at the same regularity, or severity. At least two of those shootings involved legally owned guns too. Seems like a lot of these shootings take place with legally owned firearms, or easily available firearms legally owned by a family member. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #312 December 20, 2012 Quote Quote *** His thoughts (and I agree) - "People have an unrealistic expectation of their own abilities in these kinds of high stress situations". Otherwise known as "I wanted too many action movies" We see a lot of that is this very forum. A lot of would-be Rambos post here. Some of us actually train for these ASR scenarios. Part of that is knowing when NOT to shoot. But drawing and showing has an effect too. Maybe better preparation in the school systems security would be a benefit. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #313 December 21, 2012 Quote Quote Quote *** His thoughts (and I agree) - "People have an unrealistic expectation of their own abilities in these kinds of high stress situations". Otherwise known as "I wanted too many action movies" We see a lot of that is this very forum. A lot of would-be Rambos post here. Some of us actually train for these ASR scenarios. Part of that is knowing when NOT to shoot. But drawing and showing has an effect too. Maybe better preparation in the school systems security would be a benefit. Matt I wonder if Lanza knew he could have shot the lock and get in or by chance when he got there the situation was just available. It is believed the shooter in the theater in CO had been to the theater and may had already tried out his plan of jaming the exit door open so that he could return with a gun. Regretably as nutty as our society is, we have to control access points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linebckr83 3 #314 December 21, 2012 Sad but true. Especially in a movie theater. Kids have been using the exit to sneak into movies since I was a little one."Are you coming to the party? Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!" Flying Hellfish #828 Dudist #52 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
