kallend 1,623 #1 November 30, 2012 online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203937004578078820874744076.html?google_editors_picks=true Wow, this reminds me of the Michael Crichton novel NEXT en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_(novel)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #2 November 30, 2012 What's your opinion on that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #3 November 30, 2012 Federal rules say you can't so thats that.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #4 November 30, 2012 Welcome to Obamacare and IPAB.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #5 November 30, 2012 The part of that article that does not make any sense is the claim that patients have to see the doctor to access the information in their chart. A patient can ask for medical records at any time and it does not have to be in conjunction with a visit."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #6 November 30, 2012 QuoteWelcome to Obamacare and IPAB. Lame. HIPAA has nothing to do with Obama.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #7 November 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteWelcome to Obamacare and IPAB. Lame. HIPAA has nothing to do with Obama. But, IPAB does.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #8 November 30, 2012 QuoteWelcome to Obamacare and IPAB. for your own safety no one can access your medical records except the hospital and the dr on your behalf. that is the law and MDT is doing nothing wrong. i have no beef with that as long as exceptions can be made. the Gov't is slow and stupid at times, not news. what is wrong, IMO, and no one mentioned it is that they can profit from it. If MDT will not release it to the individual, than they should not be able to sell it to a third party. that is a no brainer and the Gov't should get off their butt and fix it. i would prefer if the gov't did not try to protect me so much."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #9 November 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteWelcome to Obamacare and IPAB. for your own safety no one can access your medical records except the hospital and the dr on your behalf. that is the law and MDT is doing nothing wrong. i have no beef with that as long as exceptions can be made. the Gov't is slow and stupid at times, not news. what is wrong, IMO, and no one mentioned it is that they can profit from it.. How about my link to NEXT? Have you read the book? It's all about corporations profiting from people's medical and genetic data.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #10 November 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteWelcome to Obamacare and IPAB. Lame. HIPAA has nothing to do with Obama. But, IPAB does. And IPAB has nothing whatever to do with the issue in the OP. Please pay attention.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #11 November 30, 2012 Let's just call it even eh? They get the medical data from the device, and you get to....live? I am not going to be able to explain raw pacer/defib data points to someone in a 15 minute visit without extensive review time. That's what the summary reports are for - that the BioMed company provides - from a device that likely took billions to develop. That they pay people/programs to analyze said data and give me a summary report, so that I can tell you as a patient that a) everything looks great since last time or b) we need to change something so that you don't keep having events. They have to make a profit somehow, to be able to keep making cool shit that helps us keep people alive. The data that they collect, as long as not personally idenitfiable, should certainly be allowed to be shared with other researchers to collaborate and improve science. That being said: /most patients have no use for the raw data //most doctors have no use for the raw data ///patients should be able to access any data that comes out of their body. ////I have not read NEXT - but it sounds like I need to add it to my list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #12 November 30, 2012 Quote Please pay attention. With this socialist nightmare we are in, I'm too broke to pay attention.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,394 #13 November 30, 2012 >With this socialist nightmare we are in, I'm too broke to pay attention. Your government check hasn't come in yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,394 #14 December 1, 2012 >That check? Yep, the check he feels entitled to for the reasons you listed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,394 #15 December 1, 2012 >How dare he feel entitled to receive a check . . . . You sound just like him complaining about all the other "moochers" who get _their_ checks, after they pay their taxes mandated under the threat of prison. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,394 #16 December 1, 2012 >You mean all those "moochers" that don't pay any taxes Uh, OK. If you want to call Ron a moocher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,394 #17 December 1, 2012 >Selective fragmented quoting. Yes. I ignored the silly "30 free cell phones" comment that I assumed was a joke. If you are seriously claiming that people get 30 free cell phones from the government, I'll file your posts under the same category as Rhys's posts - entertaining to read, and that's about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #18 December 1, 2012 "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #19 December 1, 2012 QuoteQuote Nice! Where can I buy those? You can't. They're free. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,394 #20 December 1, 2012 >Sorry, it's gonna take a little adjusting to this whole 'free stuff' mentality. Well, Ron can help ya through it, he has some experience there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #21 December 1, 2012 Quote>With this socialist nightmare we are in, I'm too broke to pay attention. Your government check hasn't come in yet? You have to understand, I only get what I earned from my work. It is way less than a ghetto or barrio baby factory mom who has to support her gang banger offspring.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #22 December 1, 2012 QuoteThe part of that article that does not make any sense is the claim that patients have to see the doctor to access the information in their chart. A patient can ask for medical records at any time and it does not have to be in conjunction with a visit. Quote"Our customers are physicians and hospitals," said Elizabeth Hoff, general manager of Medtronic's data business. Medtronic would need regulatory approval to give patients the data, she said. It hasn't sought approval because "we don't have this massive demand."Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #23 December 1, 2012 QuoteQuote Please pay attention. With this socialist nightmare we are in, I'm too broke to pay attention. Actually you are far closer to living in a fascist nation than a socialist one.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #24 December 3, 2012 QuoteIt is way less than a ghetto or barrio baby factory mom who has to support her gang banger offspring. Don't you hate when a coloured person has more than you... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #25 December 3, 2012 QuoteQuoteIt is way less than a ghetto or barrio baby factory mom who has to support her gang banger offspring. Don't you hate when a coloured person has more than you... I hate it when I see the gov't needlessly creating a class of people who are totally dependent. It's human nature to appreciate the things you work to achieve. People don't appreciate things that are given.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites