More on BHO & Benghazi

[kallend 1,623]

Phil1111

Reports like these just make the public more skeptical of the BS in Washington and the impossibility of separating fact from political spin.

Why not a report from a retired CIA director. Oh, of course, that would miss the chance for political spin on the real facts.

Yes, the GOP just gives us spin on false facts.

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[JerryBaumchen 1,047]

Hi rush,

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Hillary purposefully and willing lied to the American public.

In a later post, you ask Prof. Kallend for a citation for his information.

So what citation can you offer on what you say?

We wait with the proverbial baited breath.

Jerry Baumchen

[rushmc 18]

JerryBaumchen

Hi rush,

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Hillary purposefully and willing lied to the American public.

In a later post, you ask Prof. Kallend for a citation for his information.

So what citation can you offer on what you say?

We wait with the proverbial baited breath.

Jerry Baumchen

It is in her emails to her daughter and others during the first minutes of the attack. Facts suck huh....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jclalor 12]

rushmc

***Hi rush,

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Hillary purposefully and willing lied to the American public.

In a later post, you ask Prof. Kallend for a citation for his information.

So what citation can you offer on what you say?

We wait with the proverbial baited breath.

Jerry Baumchen

It is in her emails to her daughter and others during the first minutes of the attack. Facts suck huh....

I hope you're ready for 8 years of Hillary as POTUS, you folks are going to go nuts.

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jclalor

I hope you're ready for 8 years of Hillary as POTUS, you folks are going to go nuts.

Go?

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[RonD1120 58]

normiss

Your constant refusal of facts in evidence after years and millions wasted over "OMG! 4 people died" It's all her fault!"
While entirely dismissing the Bush's watch resulting in almost 10,000 deaths between 9/11 and the resulting wars of choice is flat out disgusting.
EVERY report says those 4 people could NOT have been saved.

OK, there's the horse. Have fun.

Whatever.

The original purpose of this thread was, OMG! BHO allowed and covered up this tragedy up so that it would not adversely effect his re-election. It just morphed into get Hillary.

It seems that a lot of people love high tech, powerful, criminals who are politicians. We are doomed unless we wake up.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[normiss 622]

No, he didn't.

[kallend 1,623]

What a charade at our expense.

Did you see Gowdy's face? He looked as if he'd just bitten into a particularly sour lemon.

Which, metaphorically, he had.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 212]

rushmc

***Facts and findings:
Here are the key "findings" from the Republican report:

The Defense Department, the Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department failed to understand the threats to U.S. personnel at the Benghazi consulate, and didn't adequately defend them.
It found there was a long delay after Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered forces to be deployed in response to the attack that meant they didn't arrive until 2 p.m. the next day.
Still, the report did not dispute the conclusion of prior reviews that United States military forces in Europe couldn't have reached Benghazi in time to rescue the four Americans who died. ""What was disturbing from the evidence the Committee found was that at the time of the final lethal attack at the Annex, no asset ordered deployed by the Secretary had even left the ground," the report stated.
The report found that some Americans were saved not by a quasi-government militia, as previous reports had found, but rather by a group of military officers from the Khaddafy regime, which had been toppled by the U.S. and others a year earlier. "Some of the very individuals the United States helped remove from power during the Libyan revolution were the only Libyans that came to the assistance of the United States on the night of the Benghazi attacks," the report said.
Hillary Clinton is referenced three times in the 187-page section on the attacks, 38 times in 177-page section on communications and then 86 times in the 135-page section on events beforehand.
The 800 page report contains just seven pages on "recommendations" — even though stopping a repeat of the attacks was said to be a key goal of the investigation. By contrast, the 9/11 report, which was a little over half the length, contained 62 pages of recommendations.

And who typed up these "key findings". kallend will call you dishonest for not showing us where you got this.

I think this is a better source for "key findings"
You can pick them out yourself minus the spin you posted.


http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo


Holy crap - look at all the plagiarism!

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[normiss 622]

It came from NPR.

[billvon 2,396]

>The original purpose of this thread was, OMG! BHO allowed and covered up this tragedy
>up so that it would not adversely effect his re-election. It just morphed into get Hillary.

No, the original purpose was "let's smear Obama!" And that got morphed into "let's smear Clinton!" Unfortunately, the facts did not support the smears. Even an investigation led by people who admitted that their purpose was to smear Clinton couldn't find anything damning.

[RonD1120 58]

OK

They are both still the worst examples of federal leadership in my lifetime. IMHO of course.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[normiss 622]

Although the data showing their performance and accomplishments are 180° away from that perspective.
It's just your feels man.

[RonD1120 58]

IMHO, the data is skewed to socialist left.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[gowlerk 1,910]

RonD1120

IMHO, the data is skewed to socialist left.

I don't know about that. I do know that socialism in Canada, and probably also in the US is strongly rooted in traditional Christian churches. Many strong Christians still have left leaning socialist instincts. It's pretty clear that Jesus did.

It's only the tension of cultural change and the diminishing of the political influence of churches that led to today's embracing of right wing politics by some religious leaders.

So you could claim the data is skewed to the Democratic left, but that has little to nothing to do with socialism, and everything to do with power politics. Which is exactly what the Benghazi report is about.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[SkyDekker 1,121]

RonD1120

IMHO, the data is skewed to socialist left.

Probably true in your case. But then you consider anything left of the KKK to be socialist.

[billvon 2,396]

>IMHO, the data is skewed to socialist left.

Well, reality does have a well-known liberal bias. Just look at the commie concepts of evolution, plate tectonics, climate change, vaccination and atmospheric chemistry. Heck, even the Internet you are posting on is a socialist nightmare, practically dripping with science, open-source software and government research funding.

[RonD1120 58]

billvon

>IMHO, the data is skewed to socialist left.

Well, reality does have a well-known liberal bias. Just look at the commie concepts of evolution, plate tectonics, climate change, vaccination and atmospheric chemistry. Heck, even the Internet you are posting on is a socialist nightmare, practically dripping with science, open-source software and government research funding.

Science does provide some interesting and occasionally good ideas. It is a useful tool but it is a lousy master.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 2,396]

>Science does provide some interesting and occasionally good ideas. It is a useful tool
>but it is a lousy master.

Agreed. Fortunately, very few people treat science as their "master."

[RonD1120 58]

billvon

>Science does provide some interesting and occasionally good ideas. It is a useful tool
>but it is a lousy master.

Agreed. Fortunately, very few people treat science as their "master."

How come they are always trying to cram it down our throats? I mean speaking as a right wing conservative Christian living in a rural area to avoid the onslaught.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

***>Agreed. Fortunately, very few people treat science as their "master."

How come they are always trying to cram it down our throats? I mean speaking as a right wing conservative Christian living in a rural area to avoid the onslaught.

I have never had a physicist stop me on the street to speak to me about quantum mechanics. Not a single one. Never.

I have had countless religious zealots stop me on the street and knock on my front door trying to speak to me about their particular version of "God."

WTF do you mean when you talk about science being a "master" and "always trying to cram it down our throats"?

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[jakee 1,254]

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I mean speaking as a right wing conservative Christian living in a rural area to avoid the onslaught.

The onslaught of what, exactly?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[RonD1120 58]

quade

******>Agreed. Fortunately, very few people treat science as their "master."

How come they are always trying to cram it down our throats? I mean speaking as a right wing conservative Christian living in a rural area to avoid the onslaught.

I have never had a physicist stop me on the street to speak to me about quantum mechanics. Not a single one. Never.

I have had countless religious zealots stop me on the street and knock on my front door trying to speak to me about their particular version of "God."

WTF do you mean when you talk about science being a "master" and "always trying to cram it down our throats"?

I mean I am responding in kind to the ridiculous posts people throw my way.

Take a deep breath and have a good weekend.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[jakee 1,254]

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I mean I am responding in kind to the ridiculous posts people throw my way.

So there isn't an onslaught of science into your rural area?

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Take a deep breath and have a good weekend.

I don't know if calendars count as science, but they might be part of the onslaught you want to embrace

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Coreeece 2]

RonD1120

The original purpose of this thread was, OMG! BHO allowed and covered up this tragedy up so that it would not adversely effect his re-election. It just morphed into get Hillary.

But even way before that, the thread morphed into Blame Bush®

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