jcd11235 0 #1251 October 9, 2014 Anvilbrotherhttps://www.facebook.com/trollers442 Go join your people, I'm done with you here. Translation: I refuse to have an intelligent discussion with anyone who doesn't think just like me.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #1252 October 9, 2014 Wrong. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #1253 October 9, 2014 SkyDekkerQuoteAbsolutely! Less than 2 months before a presidential election. Tight race. On the campaign trail Barry has been blowing his own horn about having the terrorists on the run. One day after the Benghazi attack that occurred on the 11th anniversary of 9/11, Obama spoke at a campaign event in Las Vegas on Sept. 12. “A day after 9/11, we are reminded that a new tower rises above the New York skyline, but al Qaeda is on the path to defeat and bin Laden is dead,” Obama said in Las Vegas. I see it the same as "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" and "I am not a crook". Combine that with a really odd jobs report that I believe was doctored to make him look better and a picture begins to develop. How is that any different from the whole "Mission Accomplished" thing? So it's your contention that Obama is no different than Bush? Interesting.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #1254 October 10, 2014 SkyDekker******Can somebody explain to me why the "label" of the attackers matters? The only time I can see a label being relevant to anything other than political grandstanding is whether bad guys are classified as a soldiers or as criminals. If they are a soldiers, deal with them militarily. If they are criminals, use police (or other non-military force) appropriate to the jurisdiction. agreed! If I assume what you mean you correctly, a civilian is no longer a civilian once they commit a terrorist act. But they are only civilians when they are planning the attack. So police should be involved when apprehending a terrorist planning person, and military should be used to deal with terrorists that actually act. In which case, the guy that made the video, that the attacks were blamed on, fits into this . . . HOW? If the above is correct, why wasn't the military allowed to act? Was it not a terrorist attack? Obama says he has always said it was.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #1255 October 10, 2014 turtlespeed*********Can somebody explain to me why the "label" of the attackers matters? The only time I can see a label being relevant to anything other than political grandstanding is whether bad guys are classified as a soldiers or as criminals. If they are a soldiers, deal with them militarily. If they are criminals, use police (or other non-military force) appropriate to the jurisdiction. agreed! If I assume what you mean you correctly, a civilian is no longer a civilian once they commit a terrorist act. But they are only civilians when they are planning the attack. So police should be involved when apprehending a terrorist planning person, and military should be used to deal with terrorists that actually act. In which case, the guy that made the video, that the attacks were blamed on, fits into this . . . HOW? If the above is correct, why wasn't the military allowed to act? Was it not a terrorist attack? Obama says he has always said it was. Why would you assume all so-called "terrorists" are soldiers? I would argue the opposite is more often true. And responding to them with military force has, thus far, worked out pretty poorly.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #1256 October 10, 2014 jcd11235************Can somebody explain to me why the "label" of the attackers matters? The only time I can see a label being relevant to anything other than political grandstanding is whether bad guys are classified as a soldiers or as criminals. If they are a soldiers, deal with them militarily. If they are criminals, use police (or other non-military force) appropriate to the jurisdiction. agreed! If I assume what you mean you correctly, a civilian is no longer a civilian once they commit a terrorist act. But they are only civilians when they are planning the attack. So police should be involved when apprehending a terrorist planning person, and military should be used to deal with terrorists that actually act. In which case, the guy that made the video, that the attacks were blamed on, fits into this . . . HOW? If the above is correct, why wasn't the military allowed to act? Was it not a terrorist attack? Obama says he has always said it was. Why would you assume all so-called "terrorists" are soldiers? I would argue the opposite is more often true. I guess we shouldn't then, evidently the war on terror is over. Or maybe Obama is committing murder by bombing ISIS or ISIL or whatever they are calling themselves these days. Evidently you think the local constabulary should be dealing with it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #1257 October 10, 2014 turtlespeedOr maybe Obama is committing murder by bombing ISIS or ISIL or whatever they are calling themselves these days. Interesting, but not surprising, how you set up straw men to avoid addressing what's actually been said. ISIS is aspiring to be a state actor. I'd consider them soldiers to be dealt with militarily. turtlespeedEvidently you think the local constabulary should be dealing with it. Your implication that police only exist on the local level is absurd.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #1258 October 10, 2014 jcd11235***Or maybe Obama is committing murder by bombing ISIS or ISIL or whatever they are calling themselves these days. Interesting, but not surprising, how you set up straw men to avoid addressing what's actually been said. ISIS is aspiring to be a state actor. I'd consider them soldiers to be dealt with militarily. turtlespeedEvidently you think the local constabulary should be dealing with it. Your implication that police only exist on the local level is absurd. You would consider them soldiers? What is it that you would consider a terrorist group that should be dealt with by a police force? How organized do they have to be? At what member level does a group attain a level of military dealings? Does aspiration make for truth? If "Someguy" is aspiring to be Mars mission astronaut, does that make it so?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #1259 October 10, 2014 turtlespeedYou would consider them soldiers? I would consider them an unrecognized state with soldiers. turtlespeedWhat is it that you would consider a terrorist group that should be dealt with by a police force? Eric Rudolph would be a good example, as would Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. It would have been better, and almost certainly faster and cheaper, to have dealt with Osama bin Laden by intelligence organizations instead of major military action. turtlespeedHow organized do they have to be? At what member level does a group attain a level of military dealings? It's not about how organized they are or how many people there are. It's about what they are organized to be and to become. turtlespeedDoes aspiration make for truth? No. That said, ISIS/ISIL have been pretty successful. If not defeated, they will eventually go from an unrecognized state to a recognized state, however reluctant other states are to recognize them.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #1260 October 10, 2014 Anvilbrotherhttps://www.facebook.com/trollers442 Go join your people, I'm done with you here. Lol, I even gave you a second opportunity to address the issue. Guess you can't. Oh well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #1261 October 10, 2014 airdvr***QuoteAbsolutely! Less than 2 months before a presidential election. Tight race. On the campaign trail Barry has been blowing his own horn about having the terrorists on the run. One day after the Benghazi attack that occurred on the 11th anniversary of 9/11, Obama spoke at a campaign event in Las Vegas on Sept. 12. “A day after 9/11, we are reminded that a new tower rises above the New York skyline, but al Qaeda is on the path to defeat and bin Laden is dead,” Obama said in Las Vegas. I see it the same as "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" and "I am not a crook". Combine that with a really odd jobs report that I believe was doctored to make him look better and a picture begins to develop. How is that any different from the whole "Mission Accomplished" thing? So it's your contention that Obama is no different than Bush? Interesting. There realy isn't much difference between the two. Though Obama hasn't killed thousands of American soldiers with his mistakes yet. Bush has. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #1262 October 12, 2014 If you have not read 13 Hours in Benghazi I strongly recommend it. Beside being a well written first person narrative, the book opens the door to the controversy a little wider. http://www.amazon.com/13-Hours-Account-Happened-Benghazi/dp/1455582271Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #1263 October 15, 2014 The controversy as summed up by Mitchell Zuckoff, author of 13 Hours, follows three issues. QuotePrior to the attack: Who, if anyone, deserves blame and potential punishment for security flaws at the Compound, and did those flaws contribute to the deaths of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and Sean Smith? Four State Department employees were placed on paid administrative leave, but all were reinstated and given new jobs at State. Two later retired voluntarily. During the attack: Was the US military response appropriate, and if not, why not? A related question is whether more aggressive US military action was possible, and if so, might it have prevented the deaths of Tyrone “Rone” Woods and Glen “Bub” Doherty, and the serious injuries to Mark “Oz” Geist and David Ubben? After the attack: Did the Obama administration mislead the public for political reasons, by erroneously linking the attack to protests triggered by clips from the Innocence of Muslims movie? A related question was whether the administration downplayed a possible role by al-Qaeda. pp. 295-296 The questions derived from these issues need final conclusive and honest answers. The families of the deceased deserve the answer as well as concerned Americans. Zuckoff's summation of where we are now: QuoteAs Clinton promoted her book, a new investigation was being launched by the House Select Committee on the Events Surrounding the 2012 Terrorist Attack in Benghazi, Chaired by former federal prosecutor Rep. Trey Gowdy, a South Carolina Republican, the committee's creation promised to drive questions about Benghazi into the 2016 presidential campaign and beyond. p. 298 It is my hope that Gowdy does just that. Benghazi must remain an issue to point out the failure in leadership in the BHO administration in 2016 and thus diminish the chances of another Liberal Democratic presidential win. As I began to formalize this post, they announced on the TV news that the Republicans have a good chance of gaining control of the Senate in November. Maybe we are on our way to turning this nation around.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 126 #1264 October 16, 2014 a bunch of the same questions is somehow proof that something is wrong? All these questions asked and answered in the previous 9 or so investigations......yawn. My disappointment is how much money this is costing the taxpayer and when can i expect to see a refund.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #1265 November 2, 2014 Sharyl Attkisson's book explains how BHO manipulated the media to attack Romney's position on Benghazi. “Now, eight years after Rathergate, I feared that we’d once again mischaracterized facts in advance of a presidential election to hurt a Republican. We not only had stood by silently as the media largely sided against Romney, but we’d also taken an active part in steering them in that direction,” http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/10/29/sharyl-attkissons-compelling-gripe-against-cbs-news-over-benghazi-coverage/Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #1266 November 14, 2014 I hope and pray the GOP Congress will expose the WH strategy for exactly what it was in Sep 2012. Jonathon Gruber has opened the door much further and shined the light on more truth. That is by exposing the lies behind Obamacare. This house of cards is crumbling. Maybe just maybe some of the more astute liberal progressives will realize the error of idolizing the intellectually elite. http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/12/new-gop-run-senate-can-help-investigate-benghazi/Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #1267 November 14, 2014 And, as a side note: http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/court-agrees-to-reconsider-decision-over-benghazi-linked-anti-islam-video-20141112Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #1268 November 15, 2014 The thread "Morons on Benghazi" continues. Why are the conservatards so easily led into being pissed off about four people dying in Benghazi, while not giving a rats ass about the hundreds of thousands we killed during the invasion and occupation of Iraq? Not to mention the hundreds of thousands displaced, and the completely predictable rise of ISIL and other extremist groups looking to fill the power vacuum left by getting rid of Saddam Hussein. The only explanation I can come up with is that Faux Spews and the Reich Wing leadership tells the 'tards what to be pissed about. The 'tards are too fucking STUPID to realize that they are ignorant sheeple like beings. Dumb as a box of rocks, and extremely proud of it. How is that practicing Socialism working for you, Ron? Are you still taking benefits from Social Security and Medicare, the most Socialist government programs available, while claiming that your hate Socialism is all it forms? Still a complete and utter hypocrite, eh? God will punish you for your sins. A permanent assignment to Hell is about right. False Christianity needs extreme punishment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loudtom 5 #1270 November 15, 2014 -1 typical as usual... name calling is all you got...tom #90 #54 #08 and now #5 with a Bronze :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #1271 November 15, 2014 Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #1272 November 18, 2014 The Senate may join Trey Gowdy and the House investigation of the Benghazi cover up. Good, keep the pressure on. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/392761/2015-may-see-senate-probe-benghazi-joel-gehrkeLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #1273 November 22, 2014 Here is a USEFUL contribution to the Morons on Benghazi thread. Hey Conservatards, there is NOTHING to the bullshit fomented by the assholes you all believe in - http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/21/gop_controlled_house_intelligence_committee_debunks_benghazi_conspiracy.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 173 #1274 November 22, 2014 http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-intel-panel-debunks-many-benghazi-theories/ar-BBf6BYB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #1275 November 22, 2014 funjumper101Here is a USEFUL contribution to the Morons on Benghazi thread. Hey Conservatards, there is NOTHING to the bullshit fomented by the assholes you all believe in - http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/21/gop_controlled_house_intelligence_committee_debunks_benghazi_conspiracy.html http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/22/leading-republican-wants-senate-to-join-house-probe-benghazi-attack/ I will call your spin and raise you"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
