More on BHO & Benghazi

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turtlespeed

There is no "conservative" party.

There is, it's just not very significant.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[kallend 1,623]

SkyDekker

I'll rephrase:

When it can help fuel his hatred for the Democratic party.

Libertarians are just Conservatives who use that monicker to hide from the negative side of the Conservative Party.

They tend to cheerlead close to everything the Conservative Party stands for, but when something negative is brought up they state: Oh, but I am really a libertarian.

No different from: I have black friends.

Ron Paul managed to be a Libertarian and a Republican simultaneously.

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[RonD1120 58]

The sparks did not fly. Congressman Gowdy started slow and methodical. Is this the prosecutorial style of slow building objective verifiable evidence that leads to the inevitable verdict of guilty?


Trey Gowdy’s unexpected Benghazi twist

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There was no discussion of talking points or stand-down orders, and only one of the seven Republicans on the panel — Jim Jordan of Ohio — even mentioned Clinton. Instead, Gowdy adopted as the theme of his first hearing an idea suggested by one of the committee’s Democrats, Adam Schiff of California: How well the State Department has been implementing recommendations to prevent future attacks on U.S. diplomats like the one in Libya two years ago that killed four Americans.

This is exactly what congressional oversight should be: a bipartisan effort by legislators to make sure executive-branch officials don’t repeat past mistakes. The resulting bonhomie was unprecedented in the two years of Benghazi bickering.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-trey-gowdys-unexpected-twist-in-the-benghazi-saga/2014/09/17/46673f56-3ea2-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_story.html

How the First Benghazi Committee Hearing Humbled the Hillary Clinton State Department

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The result was two hours of slow-building arguments about whether the State Department's crowded org chart prevented quick action or accountability when it came to diplomatic safety. Only after that did Gowdy take back the mic and set a trap for Gregory Starr, the assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security who worked briefly under Hillary Clinton and returned to State last year. Gowdy read from an unnamed document full of promises to fix up embassy security.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/09/17/how_the_first_benghazi_committee_hearing_humbled_the_hillary_clinton_state.html

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[funjumper101 15]

1214 posts of shit over the deaths of four people. The deaths of hundreds of thousand in the Iraq invasion and occupation = Conservatards were very pleased.

4 deaths that happened due to the lack of funding by Congress for State Department security.

An issue that has been twisted the the Conservatard media into a fictitious scenario that is complete bullshit. The conservatard sheeple follow right along with whatever their masters tell them.

Keep on dragging down the USA by flogging this dead horse. It is good for the country to fail to put credit where credit is due.

No sense of honor or decency by the sheeple. It is disgusting.

[funjumper101 15]

Is there any way for the moderators to change few letters in the thread title to accurately reflect the content?

Morons on BHO and Benghazi

would be an accurate title.

[RonD1120 58]

I realize that it is difficult for the Humboldt County folks to grasp the meaning. The latest news seems to indicate that Congressman Gowdy might be focusing on the security policies of the State Department. I just hope more comes out of it.

Obviously funding is not the issue. The State Department has abundant funding for whatever they need or want. That fact was made quite clear in the Blaze TV report, For The Record, on 17 Sep 14. Humboldt County folks probably can't afford the subscription rate, unfortunately.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[airdvr 197]

funjumper101

1214 posts of shit over the deaths of four people. The deaths of hundreds of thousand in the Iraq invasion and occupation = Conservatards were very pleased.

4 deaths that happened due to the lack of funding by Congress for State Department security.

An issue that has been twisted the the Conservatard media into a fictitious scenario that is complete bullshit. The conservatard sheeple follow right along with whatever their masters tell them.

Keep on dragging down the USA by flogging this dead horse. It is good for the country to fail to put credit where credit is due.

No sense of honor or decency by the sheeple. It is disgusting.

Here's the problem you keep forgetting. It wasn't the blowjob and it's not so much the deaths. It's the lying and the cover-ups.

And BTW using words like conservatard makes you sound like you are a 9 year old.

Please don't dent the planet.

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airdvr

***1214 posts of shit over the deaths of four people. The deaths of hundreds of thousand in the Iraq invasion and occupation = Conservatards were very pleased.

4 deaths that happened due to the lack of funding by Congress for State Department security.

An issue that has been twisted the the Conservatard media into a fictitious scenario that is complete bullshit. The conservatard sheeple follow right along with whatever their masters tell them.

Keep on dragging down the USA by flogging this dead horse. It is good for the country to fail to put credit where credit is due.

No sense of honor or decency by the sheeple. It is disgusting.

Here's the problem you keep forgetting. It wasn't the blowjob and it's not so much the deaths. It's the lying and the cover-ups.

And BTW using words like conservatard makes you sound like you are a 9 year old.

The House (GOP) Intelligence Committee reported that it found no cover-ups.

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[tkhayes 125]

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/10/10/985191/chaffetz-absolutely-funding-embassy-security/

Apparently funding IS an issue. Actual quote from Congressman trumps your 'opinion from Blaze'

Funding did increase year over year, but all the funding requested was NOT in fact granted, which is also not unusual.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/may/13/ronan-farrow/ronan-farrow-says-inadequate-security-funding-cong/

And you are correct, the new 'investigation' will likely focus on improving the future, and security policies, which means your hopes of the smoking gun Perry Mason ending are pretty much up in a puff of smoke on its own.

I very much look to the future of ribbing you constantly about it.

[airdvr 197]

kallend

******1214 posts of shit over the deaths of four people. The deaths of hundreds of thousand in the Iraq invasion and occupation = Conservatards were very pleased.

4 deaths that happened due to the lack of funding by Congress for State Department security.

An issue that has been twisted the the Conservatard media into a fictitious scenario that is complete bullshit. The conservatard sheeple follow right along with whatever their masters tell them.

Keep on dragging down the USA by flogging this dead horse. It is good for the country to fail to put credit where credit is due.

No sense of honor or decency by the sheeple. It is disgusting.

Here's the problem you keep forgetting. It wasn't the blowjob and it's not so much the deaths. It's the lying and the cover-ups.

And BTW using words like conservatard makes you sound like you are a 9 year old.

The House (GOP) Intelligence Committee reported that it found no cover-ups.

Have you read it?

Please don't dent the planet.

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[airdvr 197]

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While the Committee has completed its report, important questions remain
unanswered as a direct result of the Obama Administration's failure to provide the
Committee with access to necessary documents and witnesses. We believe the
Administration's lack of cooperation is directly contrary to its statutory obligation
to keep the congressional intelligence committees fully and currently informed and
has effectively obstructed the Committee's efforts to get to the ground truth with
respect to these remaining questions. Too often, providing timely and complete
information to Congress is viewed by the Administration as optional or an
accommodation, rather than compliance with a statutory requirement. It is our
view that the Comtnittee should have held a vote to exercise its subpoena power to
end this obstruction, once and for all, in the early stages of the review.

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf

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[turtlespeed 212]

airdvr

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While the Committee has completed its report, important questions remain
unanswered as a direct result of the Obama Administration's failure to provide the
Committee with access to necessary documents and witnesses. We believe the
Administration's lack of cooperation is directly contrary to its statutory obligation
to keep the congressional intelligence committees fully and currently informed and
has effectively obstructed the Committee's efforts to get to the ground truth with
respect to these remaining questions. Too often, providing timely and complete
information to Congress is viewed by the Administration as optional or an
accommodation, rather than compliance with a statutory requirement. It is our
view that the Comtnittee should have held a vote to exercise its subpoena power to
end this obstruction, once and for all, in the early stages of the review.

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf

Nothing like withholding evidence to help the decision come out your way.

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[tkhayes 125]

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Conclusion
The failures of Benghazi can be summed up this way: the Americans serving in Libya were vulnerable; the State Department knew they were vulnerable; and no one in the Administration really did anything about it. The Intelligence Community does not collect intelligence about threats to our security in dangerous place so it can be ignored by senior decisionmakers. Nor should a Regional Security Officer's repeated warnings go unheeded. Yet, the intelligence
and warnings from the field were met by this Administration with a deafening silence. The four Americans who perished in Benghazi deserved better from their country. Their families, who have been waiting over a year for promised justice and answers, are entitled to know the truth about what happened and why. It is our intent that the findings and recommendations outlined in this report will facilitate and inform other reviews, especially those conducted by congressional committees with specific jurisdiction over the State Department. We stand ready to assist those reviews in every way possible. Ultimately, we must ensure that all the facts about our government's actions prior to, during, and after the attacks are brought to light for the American people to judge for themselves. The families of those murdered in Benghazi deserve the truth, and all of our intelligence, military, and diplomatic professionals who serve overseas in dangerous places are entitled to have confidence that the errors of Benghazi will not be repeated.

Yet the conclusions says nothing about 'unanswered questions' or a 'cover-up' or 'stand-down' or the other rants contained within that section you quoted, which is basically opinion. It is easy to say "You are avoiding the questions" when the questions are stupid, not relevant and quite often do not have answers.... i.e. "Why did you plant the bombs in WT7?"

Other parts of the same report specifically state that there were no cover-ups, and no evidence of cover-ups.

Bottom line? The conclusion states that embassy security could have been better given the warnings that preceded the attack.

Security could have been better for a lot of things before any attack, 9/11, Benghazi, or any other major event like that. no shit Sherlock....

[airdvr 197]

Did you need lessons to learn that dance?

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[kallend 1,623]

airdvr

Did you need lessons to learn that dance?

Your truthiness is showing.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[airdvr 197]

kallend

***Did you need lessons to learn that dance?

Your truthiness is showing.

So you have nothing....figured as much. Spouting off about the report you hadn't even read.

Please don't dent the planet.

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airdvr

******Did you need lessons to learn that dance?

Your truthiness is showing.

So you have nothing....figured as much. Spouting off about the report you hadn't even read.

I don't need anything since I've not claimed anything. You and Ron are making the claims of wrongdoing.


What do YOU have? (Besides innuendo and truthiness, that is)

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[RonD1120 58]

Judicial Watch, Weekly Updates, 19 Sep 14

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Judicial Watch Won't Stand Down on Benghazi

We are now up to 40 and still counting.

That's the number of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests Judicial Watch has filed with the Obama administration in an effort to acquire information on the Benghazi terrorist attack. We have also filed a Mandatory Declassification Review and seven lawsuits against the administration concerning Benghazi.

Our efforts are met with considerable success, despite the administration's many efforts at obstruction. Earlier this year, in response to a FOIA lawsuit, we forced the release of an email from former White House Deputy Strategic Communications Adviser Ben Rhodes that demonstrates how the Obama White House put forth false talking points that incorrectly blamed an Internet video and spontaneous demonstrations for the terrorist attack on our consulate in Libya. Once this information became public, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) obtained approval for a Special Select Committee to investigate the Benghazi scandal.

Now is the time to maintain the pressure.

On September 10, 2014, Judicial Watch announced three FOIA lawsuits - two against the Department of Defense and one against the Department of State. This is part of an ongoing effort to compel the Obama administration to provide access to records concerning what transpired in the days before, during, and after the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.

When you have a chance, I urge you to take a look at the complaints we filed to get the full details of this latest legal offensive: Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of Defense, Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State, and Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State. They lay out the JW case with unequivocal clarity.

Thanks to your Judicial Watch, Congress has a renewed focus on Benghazi. But, rest assured, we will continue our independent lawsuits and investigations, which not only get documents Congress has often been unable to obtain, but also forces the Obama administration to account to federal courts for its lawless cover-up and lies.

Regular readers of the Weekly Update may recall that at a July 23 House Oversight subcommittee hearing on the "missing" emails, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) credited Judicial Watch with exposing the truth about the IRS missing email cover-up when questioning IRS Commissioner John Koskinen. "My theory is this, Mr. Koskinen," Jordon said, "you guys weren't ever going to tell us until we caught you. And we caught you because Judicial Watch did a FOIA request."

What happens next could prove pivotal.

On September 3, 2013, we filed a FOIA lawsuit against the State Department for the following records in accordance with a June 13, 2013, FOIA request. Here is what we are seeking:

"Any and all records concerning, regarding, or related to notes, updates, or reports created in response to the September 11, 2012 attack on the U.S, Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. This request includes but is not limited to, notes, taken by then Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton or employees of the Office of the Secretary of State during the attack and its immediate aftermath."

We know that the information could be remarkably revealing because in a recent NBC News interview to promote her latest memoir former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton conceded that she took extensive notes during the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi. "I kept a lot of notes," Clinton said. When asked if she would turn them over to the House Select Committee investigators she responded, "They can read the book." The Judicial Watch lawsuit could force Clinton to turn over all notes taken during and following the attack. And we don't intend to buy the book.

The key question remains: What did she know, and when did she know it?

Clinton is widely viewed as the Democratic frontrunner for the 2016 presidential nomination. The role she played during the terrorist attack in Benghazi has already become part of a larger national conversation. And our latest FOIA lawsuit for her communications during the fatal attack could help provide critical information for that crucial discussion.

Here are some additional details about the latest FOIA lawsuits.

On the same day we filed the Clinton FOIA lawsuit, we filed suit against the Defense Department in connection with a June 12, 2014, FOIA request seeking the following:

"Any and all activity logs, reports, or other records produced by the U.S. Africa Command operations center between September 10, 2012 and September 13, 2012 regarding, concerning, or related to the attack at the U.S. Special Mission Compound and Classified Annex in Benghazi, Libya."

The final FOIA lawsuit against the State Department was filed on July 21, 2014, pursuant to a May 13, 2014, FOIA request. It sought:

"Copies of any updates and/or talking points given to Ambassador Rice by the White House or any federal agency concerning, regarding, or related to the September 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Any and all records or communications concerning, regarding, or relating to talking points or updates on the Benghazi attack given to Ambassador Rice by the White House or any federal agency."

We are just getting started, and we will keep you posted.

There are a lot of educated, concerned individuals and organizations pursuing what the liberals consider a lost cause.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[tkhayes 125]

is that all you have for a response? Really? You quoted the report and so did I.

My 'invalid answer', therefore is just as valid as yours.....

[tkhayes 125]

'judicial watch' is not a lawmaking, law-abiding, law-enforcing agency, nor an investigative body. it is yet another opinion site that has fuck all to do with anything in the end.

i am reading the investigative reports from real lawmakers that represent the country that as of yet, have found no wrongdoing. And now there is a new one that has already claimed that is limitations will be 'what can we do better in the future?' as opposed to your wishlist of 'who can we hang?'.

continue grasping please at your leisure.....

[airdvr 197]

tkhayes

is that all you have for a response? Really? You quoted the report and so did I.

My 'invalid answer', therefore is just as valid as yours.....

Is that the 'I know you are but what am I?' defense?

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[tkhayes 125]

Is that the 'I know you are but what am I?' defense?


ditto I guess. You still failed to respond. But go ahead....I can wait.

[airdvr 197]

tkhayes

Is that the 'I know you are but what am I?' defense?

ditto I guess. You still failed to respond. But go ahead....I can wait.

I'm not so concerned about the failures of this administration when it comes to things military. Every administration has them.

The findings of the House committee was the best they could do with incomplete information. Fortunately, the Senate committee has the power to subpeona. I guess we'll see what turns up.

What is really enjoyable is watching you libs get your panties all in a bunch over this. The more you protest the more I think there might be something to hide. Either way...in the immortal words of Hillary...what difference does it make?

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kallend

***Did you need lessons to learn that dance?

Your truthiness is showing.

Please at least TRY to not use one liners.
There is probably a 12 step program for you.
You should really look into it.

If one wants to appear "holier than thou", and the only way to do that is by one liners, it really isn't flattering.

Poor John.

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[tkhayes 125]

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The more you protest the more I think there might be something to hide.

how very 'american taliban' of you. yes, people who profess their innocence always have something to hide. Sounds like you are a candidate for the Nazi party.

Anyway....still failing to respond. I read the report, as did you. You quoted the sections of opinion that state there are unanswered questions. I quoted the sections that stated that there was no wrong-doing found.

This along with at least a dozen other formal reports from formal agencies from all ends of the government, all stating that there was no wrong doing, and now (again) a new committee that stated in its opening that it will likely not focus on what was done wrong but what can be done better in the future.

Amazing when the facts slap you right in the face, yet you continue to claim that there must be 'more facts that are missing.'