kallend 1,623 #451 May 9, 2013 GravitymasterNobody's making you click on the links. Take some personal responsibility. Still having that same old reading comprehension problem, I see.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #452 May 9, 2013 mistercwoodCool. So if I just post sources from Salon and MSNBC you'll take me seriously? What personal responsibility has to do with my comment is beyond me... I'm asking for information from further sources, rather than solely a known extreme partisan one. Also, I'm yet to hear an answer to the rather simple question I've asked twice now, from those who are making the most noise about this issue. If you posted an article from a source I considered crap, I wouldn't bother reading it. I would not whine and ask for additional sources, if I wanted to read something I considered more credible about a topic, I'd find it on my own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #453 May 9, 2013 Gravitymaster***Cool. So if I just post sources from Salon and MSNBC you'll take me seriously? What personal responsibility has to do with my comment is beyond me... I'm asking for information from further sources, rather than solely a known extreme partisan one. Also, I'm yet to hear an answer to the rather simple question I've asked twice now, from those who are making the most noise about this issue. If you posted an article from a source I considered crap, I wouldn't bother reading it. I would not whine and ask for additional sources, if I wanted to read something I considered more credible about a topic, I'd find it on my own. So basically, first you make up your mind and then you set out to confirm it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #454 May 9, 2013 QuoteSo basically, first you make up your mind and then you set out to confirm it. Psst! I'll let you in on a secret, everyone does. Don't tell anyone here. They all think they are totally objective thinkers without any bias or prejudice. It's a fucking joke.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #455 May 9, 2013 RonD1120QuoteSo basically, first you make up your mind and then you set out to confirm it. Psst! I'll let you in on a secret, everyone does. Don't tell anyone here. They all think they are totally objective thinkers without any bias or prejudice. It's a fucking joke. Actually I think most here fall in the grey areas between those two extremes. I know I have changed my mind based on things discussed and presented here. There are some die hards though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #456 May 9, 2013 SkyDekker ******Cool. So if I just post sources from Salon and MSNBC you'll take me seriously? What personal responsibility has to do with my comment is beyond me... I'm asking for information from further sources, rather than solely a known extreme partisan one. Also, I'm yet to hear an answer to the rather simple question I've asked twice now, from those who are making the most noise about this issue. If you posted an article from a source I considered crap, I wouldn't bother reading it. I would not whine and ask for additional sources, if I wanted to read something I considered more credible about a topic, I'd find it on my own. So basically, first you make up your mind and then you set out to confirm it. I can see you were not an Honor Roll student. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #457 May 9, 2013 SkyDekker***QuoteSo basically, first you make up your mind and then you set out to confirm it. Psst! I'll let you in on a secret, everyone does. Don't tell anyone here. They all think they are totally objective thinkers without any bias or prejudice. It's a fucking joke. Actually I think most here fall in the grey areas between those two extremes. I know I have changed my mind based on things discussed and presented here. There are some die hards though... Actually Ron is right. Lots of studies show that folks look for stories about topic they care about and sources that share their viewpoint. It take conscious effort to read about uninteresting topics or conflicting points of view. Most just don't make the effort.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #458 May 9, 2013 Kennedy Most just don't make the effort. I'm looking at the users in this forum that day after day and night after night seem to be the exception to the rule simply because they ARE in this forum; even the ones I vehemently disagree with. Anyone truly committed to living inside their own echo chamber would have to be insane to walk into this forum. And I guess there are maybe a handful of those here too. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #459 May 9, 2013 Why do you think I keep coming back? Old saying about training with people better than you, discussing with people with differing points of view, and such.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #460 May 9, 2013 RonD1120QuoteDuring Wednesday’s highly anticipated Benghazi hearings, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) questioned Greg Hicks, former deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, about the Obama administration’s response to the deadly attack. The South Carolina congressman also read a previously unreleased email sent by a State Department official identifying a terrorist group as the perpetrators of the attack the day after it occurred. Hicks said he was “embarrassed” that the attack was initially blamed on a YouTube video. So is all the noise about this is still about what happened afterwards, when everyone is already dead, rather than about anything that might have been done to prevent the outcome? What's the fucking point, really? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #461 May 10, 2013 Gravitymaster ***Cool. So if I just post sources from Salon and MSNBC you'll take me seriously? What personal responsibility has to do with my comment is beyond me... I'm asking for information from further sources, rather than solely a known extreme partisan one. Also, I'm yet to hear an answer to the rather simple question I've asked twice now, from those who are making the most noise about this issue. If you posted an article from a source I considered crap, I wouldn't bother reading it. I would not whine and ask for additional sources, if I wanted to read something I considered more credible about a topic, I'd find it on my own. You missed my point. I wanted to see if Ron had sourced any information outside of a single, known partisan one. I've read the Blaze articles still so I can see how that side views the issue. Trying to avoid the whole echo chamber thing, ya know? You two should give it a try some time... You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #462 May 10, 2013 You specifically asked him not to post articles from The Blaze. Hellololololololo............... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #463 May 10, 2013 Go back and read. I said sources other than the Blaze. I never said he couldn't do both. You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #464 May 10, 2013 The RNC's Blockbuster Benghazi Attack Ad That Never Ran http://www.ijreview.com/2013/05/51197-abc-the-rnc-benghazi-attack-ad-that-never-ran/Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #465 May 10, 2013 RonD1120The RNC's Blockbuster Benghazi Attack Ad That Never Ran http://www.ijreview.com/2013/05/51197-abc-the-rnc-benghazi-attack-ad-that-never-ran/ I liked the variant of the ad that ended with a female voice saying "Bill, it's for you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loudtom 5 #466 May 10, 2013 What a great Ad... and so true.. no sarcasm needed.tom #90 #54 #08 and now #5 with a Bronze :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #467 May 10, 2013 It just keeps coming Now the Obama admin (not Obama) are caught lieing about who put the talking points together Is Hillary about to get run over? http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/scrubbing-the-truth-from-benghazi-20130510"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #468 May 10, 2013 This story is getting too big Now ABC is carrying the torch Better late than never http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #469 May 10, 2013 rushmc This story is getting too big Now ABC is carrying the torch Better late than never http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/ Last night I went to ABC, NBC, and NBC news sites. Searched for Benghazi . . . and got NO HITS regarding the current investigation. Top stories for those searches only produced old stories.Its a little different now that the dems have acknowledged that there is a coverup.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #470 May 10, 2013 Carney is lying his ass off on live TV right now.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #471 May 10, 2013 rushmcThis story is getting too big Now ABC is carrying the torch Better late than never http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/ I've generally stayed out of this whole discussion because I've thought that the Republicans were just pulling more GOP shit, alleging nefariousness and generating smoke, etc. And the time thinking, "I don't know what happened but the GOP sounds crazy. The President just sounds incompetent." Now this ABC report comes out. And I'm becoming seriously concerned that, yes, there was hardcore politicking and, if not a cover up, it's certainly a paint job. Carney looks untrustworthy, too. He's going to take a lot of heat. The other thing - holy hell! Does this make Hillary look bad. They are throwing her under the bus. The admin is passing the buck. But there's so much they could have come clean with six months ago. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #472 May 10, 2013 lawrocket***This story is getting too big Now ABC is carrying the torch Better late than never http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/ I've generally stayed out of this whole discussion because I've thought that the Republicans were just pulling more GOP shit, alleging nefariousness and generating smoke, etc. And the time thinking, "I don't know what happened but the GOP sounds crazy. The President just sounds incompetent." Now this ABC report comes out. And I'm becoming seriously concerned that, yes, there was hardcore politicking and, if not a cover up, it's certainly a paint job. Carney looks untrustworthy, too. He's going to take a lot of heat. The other thing - holy hell! Does this make Hillary look bad. They are throwing her under the bus. The admin is passing the buck. But there's so much they could have come clean with six months ago. I have stayed out of this generally too But this is no surprise to me"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #473 May 10, 2013 Always enjoy watching the roaches run for cover when the lights come on.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #474 May 10, 2013 This is what is coming to light, IMO: 1. Ambassador Stevens is involved in weapons trading to rebels in Syria. 2. Al-Qaeda related Islamic terrorists plan attack at Benghazi. 3. Consulate in Benghazi calls for assistance when under attack and assistance is denied. 4. Assistance denied to protect BHO campaign. 5. Assistance denied to subvert attention away from weapons transaction. 6. BHO/HC provided BS cover story about an idiotic YouTube video that no one watched. 7. BHO disappears, Situation Room not activated. 8. BHO/HC hoped this would be a 24 hour flu that would go away. 9. Benghazi has become a case of full blown pneumonia. Basically, my OP and I am sticking with it.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #475 May 10, 2013 These investigations will go nowhere, as usual. Hillary will be damaged but I suspect that has been taken into consideration. Remember, the Obama wing of the Democratic Party does not get along we'll with the Clinton wing. Biden and possibly Kerry have Presidential aspirations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites