billvon 2,395 #26 October 19, 2012 >First, you both seem to believe that one of these candidates follows the rules. No, I don't. Neither one does. >Second, when speaking in public each candidate says what he thinks his audience >wants to hear based on the retarded level of government education he assumes they >have attained. Nothing said by either one is true across the fruited plain. Also agreed. >Candidates cannot be accurately evaluated on specifics. Really? Obama cannot be evaluated on his implementation of Obamacare? Interesting. >The two concepts of this election are socialism or capitalism. That's one of about a dozen important concepts. Any one-issue voter is missing most of the point. However, since Romney plans to expand funding to our country's socialist programs - and since you avail yourself of said socialist programs - I'd expect you to support him, because he will give you more money. (And sadly, the "free money" issue will be the issue for most people out there.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #27 October 19, 2012 QuoteQuote You're just not as good at reinterpretation as the GOP is. To be a GOPer you can't take people at what they say. Too many contradictions. You have to reinterpret what they say so their position matches yours more closely. If that's too hard you just completely recreate them. We saw this at the RNC convention; they could not actually debate what Obama said so they created an invisible Obama that they _could_ debate with. What amuses me about you and kallend and keeps me coming back is this. First, you both seem to believe that one of these candidates follows the rules. Neither one of them do. The rules of politics and of government is a common base of language and policy that defines the parameters of obfuscation and boundaries so that each participant can determine the easiest point of violation in order to accomplish the objective. Second, when speaking in public each candidate says what he thinks his audience wants to hear based on the retarded level of government education he assumes they have attained. Nothing said by either one is true across the fruited plain. Candidates cannot be accurately evaluated on specifics. They must be evaluated based on concepts. The two concepts of this election are socialism or capitalism. One of Clint Eastwoods best lines is "A man has got to know his limitations". Thanks for letting us know just how limited your intellectual capacity is. I am pretty sure that the limitations are necessary to be a right wing conservative. As a practicing Socialist, why are you so adamantly opposed to socialism? It must be due to the FACT that you are getting yours, while supporting those that would screw the folks that are 54 years old, and less, out of the same benefits you are taking. A more obvious example of the selfishness and venality of right wing conservatives would be hard to find. Doesn't the hypocrisy ever bother you at all? Aren't "christians" supposed to be of high moral character? That does not seem to be the case, these days. Quite the opposite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #28 October 19, 2012 From the front page of Drudge REALCLEAR MAP: Romney takes first lead in electoral college... Closing 26-point gap, Romney's favorability rating tops Obama's for first time... PA SHOCK POLL: R 49% O 45%... VA: R 50% O 47%... FL: R 51% O 46%... This should keep your blood pressure up"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #29 October 19, 2012 QuoteQuote "As president I will create 12 million jobs", 10/16/2012 at 8:15pm "The government doesn't create jobs", 10/16/2012, at 9:10pm That's only 55 minutes for a complete reversal. How can ANYONE (besides rushmc) believe anything this man says? You over estimate the attention span of the average Republican, but the good news is that there is now a medical explanation that explains Mitt's condition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTAUfg4HeAo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #30 October 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote "As president I will create 12 million jobs", 10/16/2012 at 8:15pm "The government doesn't create jobs", 10/16/2012, at 9:10pm That's only 55 minutes for a complete reversal. How can ANYONE (besides rushmc) believe anything this man says? You over estimate the attention span of the average Republican, but the good news is that there is now a medical explanation that explains Mitt's condition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTAUfg4HeAo How Obama doing in Virginia?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 0 #31 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote "As president I will create 12 million jobs", 10/16/2012 at 8:15pm "The government doesn't create jobs", 10/16/2012, at 9:10pm That's only 55 minutes for a complete reversal. How can ANYONE (besides rushmc) believe anything this man says? You over estimate the attention span of the average Republican, but the good news is that there is now a medical explanation that explains Mitt's condition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTAUfg4HeAo This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #32 October 19, 2012 Quote Here's one of the jobs Mitt created. You know, you just can't get a good shoe shine anymore. I really hope tat profession makes a comeback. Nothing like sitting in the airport, reading the newspaper while getting you shoes spit shined. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #33 October 19, 2012 Quote Fact Check: Obama does have Chinese investments through Cayman Island trust http://www.ijreview.com/2012/10/19420-fact-check-obama-does-have-chinese-investments-through-cayman-island-trust/ I guess it's only a travesty if you are a Right Wing Conservative. Either that is disingenious bullshit, or you did not understand the article. Obama has those holdings as part of a pension plan. If it is anything like most pensions out there, it is invested in at least 10's, probably 100's, and maybe 1000's of individual line items that are part of broader funds; some industry specific, some quite random. No way do people with those kinds of funds know all the specific investments - and the bulk of them are trivial in specific value compared to the total of all the funds. No way is that anything close to Romney's investments via Bain or otherwise; which were often in the tens of millions for transactions specific to a single organization." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #34 October 19, 2012 Quote This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. Maybe we get Bush 44 maybe we don't, either way the fact is that life will be way more entertaining with Romney in the white house, but life will go on. What has always fascinated me is why you folks insist that all Obama supporters look upon him as a messiah, admire him, yes, the second coming? get real. The fact of the matter is that you really don't like Romeny, you just loath Obama so much you could rationalize anyone for president,, but at least be honest with yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #35 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote "As president I will create 12 million jobs", 10/16/2012 at 8:15pm "The government doesn't create jobs", 10/16/2012, at 9:10pm That's only 55 minutes for a complete reversal. How can ANYONE (besides rushmc) believe anything this man says? You over estimate the attention span of the average Republican, but the good news is that there is now a medical explanation that explains Mitt's condition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTAUfg4HeAo This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. But WHICH Romney do you think will win, the "severely conservative" Mitt the Twit or his evil twin "Moderate Mitt"?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 0 #36 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote "As president I will create 12 million jobs", 10/16/2012 at 8:15pm "The government doesn't create jobs", 10/16/2012, at 9:10pm That's only 55 minutes for a complete reversal. How can ANYONE (besides rushmc) believe anything this man says? You over estimate the attention span of the average Republican, but the good news is that there is now a medical explanation that explains Mitt's condition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTAUfg4HeAo This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. But WHICH Romney do you think will win, the "severely conservative" Mitt the Twit or his evil twin "Moderate Mitt"? The real Mitt.... the moderate which is what we need as a country!Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 0 #37 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. Maybe we get Bush 44 maybe we don't, either way the fact is that life will be way more entertaining with Romney in the white house, but life will go on. What has always fascinated me is why you folks insist that all Obama supporters look upon him as a messiah, admire him, yes, the second coming? get real. The fact of the matter is that you really don't like Romeny, you just loath Obama so much you could rationalize anyone for president,, but at least be honest with yourself. Nope... I think Mitt is great! I wanted him over McCain last time. The more I know about him... the more I like him.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #38 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote "As president I will create 12 million jobs", 10/16/2012 at 8:15pm "The government doesn't create jobs", 10/16/2012, at 9:10pm That's only 55 minutes for a complete reversal. How can ANYONE (besides rushmc) believe anything this man says? You over estimate the attention span of the average Republican, but the good news is that there is now a medical explanation that explains Mitt's condition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTAUfg4HeAo This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. But WHICH Romney do you think will win, the "severely conservative" Mitt the Twit or his evil twin "Moderate Mitt"? The real Mitt.... the moderate which is what we need as a country! So you admit that he lied to the GOP core in order to get the nomination.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 0 #39 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote "As president I will create 12 million jobs", 10/16/2012 at 8:15pm "The government doesn't create jobs", 10/16/2012, at 9:10pm That's only 55 minutes for a complete reversal. How can ANYONE (besides rushmc) believe anything this man says? You over estimate the attention span of the average Republican, but the good news is that there is now a medical explanation that explains Mitt's condition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTAUfg4HeAo This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. But WHICH Romney do you think will win, the "severely conservative" Mitt the Twit or his evil twin "Moderate Mitt"? The real Mitt.... the moderate which is what we need as a country! So you admit that he lied to the GOP core in order to get the nomination. Nope.... nice try. He didn't lie about anything to the base.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #40 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote "As president I will create 12 million jobs", 10/16/2012 at 8:15pm "The government doesn't create jobs", 10/16/2012, at 9:10pm That's only 55 minutes for a complete reversal. How can ANYONE (besides rushmc) believe anything this man says? You over estimate the attention span of the average Republican, but the good news is that there is now a medical explanation that explains Mitt's condition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTAUfg4HeAo This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. But WHICH Romney do you think will win, the "severely conservative" Mitt the Twit or his evil twin "Moderate Mitt"? The real Mitt.... the moderate which is what we need as a country! So you admit that he lied to the GOP core in order to get the nomination. Nope.... nice try. He didn't lie about anything to the base. Amazing what people will deny despite overwhelming evidence.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #41 October 19, 2012 Quote Nope.... nice try. He didn't lie about anything to the base. he lied to someone. It's impossible for anyone to know which Mitt is the real one. At this point, he may not even know, and since he would have to immediately think about reelection in 4 years, would still have to pander at all times to all people until 2017. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #42 October 19, 2012 Quote >The two concepts of this election are socialism or capitalism. That's one of about a dozen important concepts. Any one-issue voter is missing most of the point. I like the KISS principle. No need to complete the decision process.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #43 October 19, 2012 You do realize that the 54 YO line drawn for the SS is part of Obamacare, don't you? When Romney is elected and repeals Obamcare it will no longer be a factor in fearful thinking.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #44 October 19, 2012 Quote No need to complete the decision process. There's a telling statement if there ever was one....Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,395 #45 October 19, 2012 >No need to complete the decision process. Well, some of us prefer to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #46 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote "As president I will create 12 million jobs", 10/16/2012 at 8:15pm "The government doesn't create jobs", 10/16/2012, at 9:10pm That's only 55 minutes for a complete reversal. How can ANYONE (besides rushmc) believe anything this man says? You over estimate the attention span of the average Republican, but the good news is that there is now a medical explanation that explains Mitt's condition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTAUfg4HeAo This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. But WHICH Romney do you think will win, the "severely conservative" Mitt the Twit or his evil twin "Moderate Mitt"? Well, most of us know there is the real one and then there is the one in kallend imagination land"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #47 October 19, 2012 I meant to say complicate not complete. It still comes out about the same.I made the decision for Romney back around 2007 or so. In my mind nothing was left to complete.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #48 October 20, 2012 Quote Quote Quote This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. But WHICH Romney do you think will win, the "severely conservative" Mitt the Twit or his evil twin "Moderate Mitt"? Well, most of us know there is the real one and then there is the one in kallend imagination land So enlighten me, which is the real one? The "severely conservative" guy from the primaries, or the "oh so moderate" one we see now?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #49 October 20, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. But WHICH Romney do you think will win, the "severely conservative" Mitt the Twit or his evil twin "Moderate Mitt"? Well, most of us know there is the real one and then there is the one in kallend imagination land So enlighten me, which is the real one? The "severely conservative" guy from the primaries, or the "oh so moderate" one we see now? Hopefully the smart businessman who also saved the Olympics. We won't survive 4 more years of a Community Organizer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #50 October 20, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote This is awesome.... I think those on the left are just now getting it.... yes Romney is going to win and your messiah is going to be gone just like he should be. I look forward to seeing how a real leader works on our economy. You know...someone who actually understands it. But WHICH Romney do you think will win, the "severely conservative" Mitt the Twit or his evil twin "Moderate Mitt"? Well, most of us know there is the real one and then there is the one in kallend imagination land So enlighten me, which is the real one? The "severely conservative" guy from the primaries, or the "oh so moderate" one we see now? Hopefully the smart businessman who also saved the Olympics. We won't survive 4 more years of a Community Organizer. Can't answer the question, I see. I doubt anyone can, maybe not even Mitt himself.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
