maadmax 0
beowulf 1
No they are not. Right, wrong, good and evil are words defined and constantly being redifined by humans. They are not entities of them selves as you seem to think.
maadmax 0
No they are not. Right, wrong, good and evil are words defined and constantly being redifined by humans. They are not entities of them selves as you seem to think. .
Definitions are irrelevant, define them any way you want. But to ignore their existence is blind ignorance. Physics is totally unconcerned with morality. The laws of physics will kill and destroy as easily as they will build up and heal. It is our spiritual awareness that determines how we use physics.
beowulf 1
QuoteNo they are not. Right, wrong, good and evil are words defined and constantly being redifined by humans. They are not entities of them selves as you seem to think. .
Definitions are irrelevant, define them any way you want. But to ignore their existence is blind ignorance. Physics is totally unconcerned with morality. The laws of physics will kill and destroy as easily as they will build up and heal. It is our spiritual awareness that determines how we use physics.
Prove that they are entities by themselves. Morality is defined by humans and is constantly being redefined. There is no such thing as "spiritual awareness". Show me objective evidence to support your claim.
The majority of christians don't derive their morality entirely from the bible. If they did then slavery would be considered morally correct. No where in the bible does it denounce slavery. The bible gives instructions regarding who you can enslave and how you treat your slaves.
RonD1120 58
My Utmost For His Highest
The attitude of the believer must be, "Things do look black, but I believe Him; and when the whole thing is told I am confident my belief will be justified and God will be revealed as a God of love and justice." It does not mean that we won't have problems, but it does mean that our problems will never come between us and our faith in Him. ~Oswald Chambers
The attitude of the believer must be, "Things do look black, but I believe Him; and when the whole thing is told I am confident my belief will be justified and God will be revealed as a God of love and justice." It does not mean that we won't have problems, but it does mean that our problems will never come between us and our faith in Him. ~Oswald Chambers
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
beowulf 1
You seem to claim that right, wrong, good, evil and morality are entities of themselves. Yet, you provide nothing to support your claims. How can I tell your beliefs from fantasy?
beowulf 1
QuoteMy Utmost For His Highest
The attitude of the believer must be, "Things do look black, but I believe Him; and when the whole thing is told I am confident my belief will be justified and God will be revealed as a God of love and justice." It does not mean that we won't have problems, but it does mean that our problems will never come between us and our faith in Him. ~Oswald Chambers
How is that distinguishable from fantasy?
QuoteMy Utmost For His Highest
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What is his highest?
What is my utmost I have to *give* (?) to him? And why does he want me to give it to him???
I think I'd be in highest trouble if I'd go into deep desert and kill one of my kids for him ... ? Yes or no?
dudeist skydiver # 3105
RonD1120 58
QuoteQuoteMy Utmost For His Highest
The attitude of the believer must be, "Things do look black, but I believe Him; and when the whole thing is told I am confident my belief will be justified and God will be revealed as a God of love and justice." It does not mean that we won't have problems, but it does mean that our problems will never come between us and our faith in Him. ~Oswald Chambers
How is that distinguishable from fantasy?
It is a belief. When I started grad school one of my first homework assignments was to distinguish between feelings, beliefs and fantasies.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
beowulf 1
QuoteQuoteQuoteMy Utmost For His Highest
The attitude of the believer must be, "Things do look black, but I believe Him; and when the whole thing is told I am confident my belief will be justified and God will be revealed as a God of love and justice." It does not mean that we won't have problems, but it does mean that our problems will never come between us and our faith in Him. ~Oswald Chambers
How is that distinguishable from fantasy?
It is a belief. When I started grad school one of my first homework assignments was to distinguish between feelings, beliefs and fantasies.
That doesn't answer the question. How is your belief distinguishable from fantasy?
That is an important question. If you can't distinguish your belief from fantasy then it is a fantasy.
jakee 1,254
QuoteReality has a well known liberal bias.QuoteA liberal scientist, OK.
Ron doesn't believe in reality.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
RonD1120 58
QuoteQuoteMy Utmost For His Highest
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What is his highest?
What is my utmost I have to *give* (?) to him? And why does he want me to give it to him???
I think I'd be in highest trouble if I'd go into deep desert and kill one of my kids for him ... ? Yes or no?
His highest is the best for you. What He wants is your unconditional surrender. That surrender comes at the cross when you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, ask Him to come into your life and you repent, that is reverse your thinking or change your mind.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
RonD1120 58
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteMy Utmost For His Highest
The attitude of the believer must be, "Things do look black, but I believe Him; and when the whole thing is told I am confident my belief will be justified and God will be revealed as a God of love and justice." It does not mean that we won't have problems, but it does mean that our problems will never come between us and our faith in Him. ~Oswald Chambers
How is that distinguishable from fantasy?
It is a belief. When I started grad school one of my first homework assignments was to distinguish between feelings, beliefs and fantasies.
That doesn't answer the question. How is your belief distinguishable from fantasy?
That is an important question. If you can't distinguish your belief from fantasy then it is a fantasy.
You are not a believer. Therefore, your question is irrelevant. I am a believer and my beliefs are validated by the Word of God, my personal experience and my fellowship with other believers.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
normiss 620
How'd you score on that assignment? 
RonD1120 58
QuoteHow'd you score on that assignment?
It was a discussion the following day and, I learned. The difference has more significance when working with clients who are dual diagnosed.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
beowulf 1
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteMy Utmost For His Highest
The attitude of the believer must be, "Things do look black, but I believe Him; and when the whole thing is told I am confident my belief will be justified and God will be revealed as a God of love and justice." It does not mean that we won't have problems, but it does mean that our problems will never come between us and our faith in Him. ~Oswald Chambers
How is that distinguishable from fantasy?
It is a belief. When I started grad school one of my first homework assignments was to distinguish between feelings, beliefs and fantasies.
That doesn't answer the question. How is your belief distinguishable from fantasy?
That is an important question. If you can't distinguish your belief from fantasy then it is a fantasy.
You are not a believer. Therefore, your question is irrelevant. I am a believer and my beliefs are validated by the Word of God, my personal experience and my fellowship with other believers.
So you don't have any objective evidence to distinguish your beliefs from fantasy?
The question is relevent to anyone wanting to validate their beliefs. If you can't objectively distinguish your beliefs from fantasy then it logically follows that your beliefs are fantasy.
RonD1120 58
There you go again, logic is determined by the parameters of the set.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
beowulf 1
QuoteThere you go again, logic is determined by the parameters of the set.
How do you determine fantasy from reality?
RonD1120 58
QuoteQuoteThere you go again, logic is determined by the parameters of the set.
How do you determine fantasy from reality?
I seek reality checks from people whom I respect and value their wisdom. An example would be my fellow counselor's when I was employed. Another would be the pastor or elders in my church. My wife is excellent at defining reality. Do you have one?
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
beowulf 1
QuoteQuoteQuoteThere you go again, logic is determined by the parameters of the set.
How do you determine fantasy from reality?
I seek reality checks from people whom I respect and value their wisdom. An example would be my fellow counselor's when I was employed. Another would be the pastor or elders in my church. My wife is excellent at defining reality. Do you have one?
So you are saying you compare your belief with others of similar beliefs? And you really think that's a good way to determine if your belief is a fantasy??
All that does is reinforce your beliefs and never challenges them.
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You are not a believer. Therefore, your question is irrelevant. I am a believer and my beliefs are validated by the Word of God, my personal experience and my fellowship with other believers.
There you go. Sh*t.
And I always was of the opinion, the lord loves all of them, all of his children, even the least of his *kids*.
And now you say, he (the poster you replied to) is no *believer* and thus, his question is irrelevant (he is irrelevant?).
What an idiotic logic is that.
Who's the liar, you or your lord?
edited for typo
dudeist skydiver # 3105
rushmc 18
QuoteQuoteReality has a well known liberal bias.QuoteA liberal scientist, OK.
Ron doesn't believe in reality.
And you dont believe in civility
Next
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
jakee 1,254
QuoteQuoteQuoteReality has a well known liberal bias.QuoteA liberal scientist, OK.
Ron doesn't believe in reality.
And you dont believe in civility
Which doesn't detract from the validity of the comment.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
rushmc 18
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteReality has a well known liberal bias.QuoteA liberal scientist, OK.
Ron doesn't believe in reality.
And you dont believe in civility
Which doesn't detract from the validity of the comment.
Oh, but it does
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Is there such a thing as right and wrong, good or evil? These choices are spiritual realities.