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billvon 2,391
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>Like most of your sources, this story is false.
Right wing media often operates this way. They'll put up a false story (like the "7/11 Arabs cheering 9/11") and hope it goes viral before anyone realizes it's a fake. Once it's viral they say things like "well, if so many people believe it there must be some truth to it!" It's an extension of the FOX News echo chamber, where they make up news then report on what their reporters said until they have "created" a long, involved he-said she-said news story.
Right wing media often operates this way. They'll put up a false story (like the "7/11 Arabs cheering 9/11") and hope it goes viral before anyone realizes it's a fake. Once it's viral they say things like "well, if so many people believe it there must be some truth to it!" It's an extension of the FOX News echo chamber, where they make up news then report on what their reporters said until they have "created" a long, involved he-said she-said news story.
Coreece 190
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteTo blame the author of the film is to gravely insult people like in the attached photo.
Very touching photo...it almost brought tears to me.(it would've but I'm feeling a lil' bit jaded right now...maybe tomorrow.)
I know first hand the similarities between real muslims and islamic extremists....there are none.
That's like saying there's no difference between real Christians and the Westborough Baptist church Christians.
Exactly
I believe Coreece said that real Muslims had nothing in common with the extremists.
Correct...but to be fair, they were tricked. My phraseology was somewhat deliberate to produce a perceptual phenomenon similar to the Mcgurk Effect, but much more complex since the illusion deals with personal false preconceptions about a particular speaker when paired with their negative perception of various sentence structures.
It was pretty much an experiment in how people see what they want to see, or at least see what they think they should see, even though it's not there...
Allow me to break it down:
The three men who replied to my post typically disagree with me more than they agree, so their minds are already negatively primed to disagree before they even know what I'm saying, therefore they most likely perceived my first statement as sarcasm even though it was 100% sincere:
"Very touching photo...it almost brought tears to me."
This negative reaction to that statement combined with the phraseology of the very next sentence set the stage for them to misread the word "similarities" as meaning "differences:"
"I know first hand the similarities between real muslims and islamic extremists....there are none."
To be honest, I really didn't think it would work...let's call it the "Coreece Effect."
I know, I know...a 'lil bit psycho analytic, but I find this shit fascinating.
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Skyrad 0
QuoteQuoteThat's like saying there's no difference between real Christians and the Westborough Baptist church Christians.
I believe Coreece said that real Muslims had nothing in common with the extremists, so kicking his butt is maybe not the right approach here.
Personally after reading that boring pile of incoherent but clearly hate-filled crap known as the quran, I couldn't escape the impression that Allah, and his favourite child fondler Muhammad usually will "+1" and/or "like" a pile of dead kafirs. So maybe the real Muslims are the extremists, and the moderates are doing it wrong.
As for the WBC: if you read the bible you can read for yourself that God hates fags and all that. That being a hate-filled bigot is a big advantage if you want to be a good Christian isn't their fault.
Line for line you'd be hard pushed to find a greater load of hate filled crap than that in your post.
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Skyrad 0
Knew you were big enough and ugly enough to stand up for yourself 
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Coreece 190
QuoteKnew you were big enough and ugly enough to stand up for yourself
...and I knew you were big enough and ugly enough to admit your mistake and apologize.
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Skyrad 0
Pucker up big boy 
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Marinus 0
QuoteLine for line you'd be hard pushed to find a greater load of hate filled crap than that in your post.
Yes, because hating a couple of books that call for your death is about as hateful as it gets. If you want people to like the quran or the bible, it might be a good idea to rewrite the more disturbing parts. Disgust is a rather healthy reaction to gems like this.
Quote"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Yes. I know, I should read it in context in the original language or whatever excuse you use to use to pretend that's not a direct order to murder people.
Coreece 190
Quote"strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Seems like that one should be the other way around...
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Marinus 0
Maybe it's for identification purposes or something?
Skyrad 0
QuoteQuote"strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Seems like that one should be the other way around...
Its a mercy thing
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Skyrad 0
Clearly any idiot can take a quote out of context of time and place. Q.E.D.
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Marinus 0
QuoteClearly any idiot can take a quote out of context of time and place.
Any idiot can start about "context" when confronted with disturbing texts in their holy writings. Not everyone buys into that lame excuse. Fact of the matter is that the quran, just like the bible, is used to justify a lot of heinous atrocities. Because it can be easily used for that.
"No true Scotsman fallacy" in 3, 2, 1
Coreece 190
QuoteFact of the matter is that the quran, just like the bible, is used to justify a lot of heinous atrocities. Because it can be easily used for that.
Not if you're a christian...
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billvon 2,391
>Not if you're a christian...
From a speech by Pope Urban II:
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We read also that if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch [Matt. 15:14]. But first correct yourselves, in order that, free from blame , you may be able to correct those who are subject to you. . . . .If a man who does not give a part of his goods as alms is punished with the damnation of hell, how should he be punished who robs another of his goods? For thus it happened to the rich man in the gospel [Luke 16:19]; he was not punished because he had stolen the goods of another, but because he had not used well the things which were his.
. . . If you permit them to continue thus for awhile with impurity, the faithful of God will be much more widely attacked by them. On this account I, or rather the Lord, beseech you as Christ's heralds to publish this everywhere and to persuade all people of whatever rank, foot-soldiers and knights, poor and rich, to carry aid promptly to those Christians and to destroy that vile race [Arabs] from the lands of our friends. I say this to those who are present, it meant also for those who are absent. Moreover, Christ commands it.
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From a speech by Pope Urban II:
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We read also that if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch [Matt. 15:14]. But first correct yourselves, in order that, free from blame , you may be able to correct those who are subject to you. . . . .If a man who does not give a part of his goods as alms is punished with the damnation of hell, how should he be punished who robs another of his goods? For thus it happened to the rich man in the gospel [Luke 16:19]; he was not punished because he had stolen the goods of another, but because he had not used well the things which were his.
. . . If you permit them to continue thus for awhile with impurity, the faithful of God will be much more widely attacked by them. On this account I, or rather the Lord, beseech you as Christ's heralds to publish this everywhere and to persuade all people of whatever rank, foot-soldiers and knights, poor and rich, to carry aid promptly to those Christians and to destroy that vile race [Arabs] from the lands of our friends. I say this to those who are present, it meant also for those who are absent. Moreover, Christ commands it.
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Coreece 190
Quote>Not if you're a christian...
From a speech by Pope Urban II
First of all...in case you didn't know, the Pope is Catholic...nuff said.
Second, it would be helpful to set your time machine to 2012 and look me up when you get back.
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billvon 2,391
>First of all...in case you didn't know, the Pope is Catholic...nuff said.
Ah. And catholics aren't christians?
Ah. And catholics aren't christians?
Coreece 190
Quote>First of all...in case you didn't know, the Pope is Catholic...nuff said.
Ah. And catholics aren't christians?
Not if that's how they interpret scripture....
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normiss 622
So words are their meanings must be 'interpreted'? 
billvon 2,391
>>Ah. And catholics aren't christians?
>Not if that's how they interpret scripture....
So using your logic, would Sunni Muslims not be Muslims?
>Not if that's how they interpret scripture....
So using your logic, would Sunni Muslims not be Muslims?
Like most of your sources, this story is false.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/cairo.asp
How does it feel to know that most of your world views are formed from incorrect information?
Like most of my sources
It would be interesting to know who/what tells you what to think
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
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