davjohns 1 #126 July 27, 2012 QuoteRight. Nor is that gun in your holster going to do you much good when the seat explodes under your arse.... Made me laugh again. My point is that handguns are very useful for self defense. For mass attacks, there are plenty of other options. Taking away handguns hinders the good guy more than the bad guy.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #127 July 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteIf he didn't have a gun, he could have easily driven his car through a playground full of kids. It has happened before. Didn't get much press. Nobody wants to take away other people's right to own a cadillac. Like I said, you are willing to rely on the odds of saving yourself with a gun in a tear gas filled chaotic theatre. I am willing to rely on the odds of him not driving a cadillac through a playground if he didn't have ready access to guns. So basically you're taking the Big Sky safety theory by skydivers and applying it to the ground. Since the odds of either event are miniscule, it probably works out. However, San Francisco has seen two incidents in the past couple years where a driver went around mowing down pedestrians in one case, and targeting cyclists in another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #128 July 27, 2012 Quoteand targeting cyclists in another. seriously, they should be allowed the road as long as they follow all the rules just like the cars. BUT, if there's a bike path available, then they should just use that and stop being assholes. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #129 July 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteand targeting cyclists in another. seriously, they should be allowed the road as long as they follow all the rules just like the cars. BUT, if there's a bike path available, then they should just use that and stop being assholes. read the fucking vehicle code already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #130 July 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteand targeting cyclists in another. seriously, they should be allowed the road as long as they follow all the rules just like the cars. BUT, if there's a bike path available, then they should just use that and stop being assholes. read the fucking vehicle code already. bossly little shit aren't you? (hell, even funjumper takes a break on Fridays) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #132 July 27, 2012 QuoteHowever, San Francisco has seen two incidents in the past couple years where a driver went around mowing down pedestrians in one case, and targeting cyclists in another. Clearly because they had a hard time finding guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #133 July 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteand targeting cyclists in another. seriously, they should be allowed the road as long as they follow all the rules just like the cars. BUT, if there's a bike path available, then they should just use that and stop being assholes. read the fucking vehicle code already. bossly little shit aren't you? (hell, even funjumper takes a break on Fridays) I'm not the one who just expressed complete ignorance of the law, or said that cyclists deserve to get run down for following all the rules just like the cars. You're the one that doesn't know the rules. Or anything about cycling. There are definitely asshole cyclists out there, esp in San Francisco. Many of them then get in BMWs or oversized SUVs and become asshole drivers, running red lights, running down pedestrians, speeding in crowded streets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #134 July 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteHowever, San Francisco has seen two incidents in the past couple years where a driver went around mowing down pedestrians in one case, and targeting cyclists in another. Clearly because they had a hard time finding guns. probably should check the murder rates 5 miles to the East in Oakland. It is a challenge indeed for citizens to legally buy guns here now. That's why I built my ARSENAL years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #135 July 27, 2012 QuoteClearly because they had a hard time finding guns. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- probably should check the murder rates 5 miles to the East in Oakland. Why would I look up the murder rate in Oakland? I thought there was no correlation between access to guns and murder rates? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #136 July 27, 2012 QuoteI'm not the one who just expressed complete ignorance of the law, or said that cyclists deserve to get run down tongue in cheek, Kelpy. Indicated by the total non sequitor, I'll try to use smileys for the slow people in the future stay off the caffeine, and have a fun weekend ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #137 July 27, 2012 Quote Quote However, San Francisco has seen two incidents in the past couple years where a driver went around mowing down pedestrians in one case, and targeting cyclists in another. Clearly because they had a hard time finding guns. See? , it would be so much simpler to just have the San Fran government issue a "free" gun to every driver (except the rich, they can afford their own guns the roads a bit. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #138 July 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteI'm not the one who just expressed complete ignorance of the law, or said that cyclists deserve to get run down tongue in cheek, Kelpy. Indicated by the total non sequitor, I'll try to use smileys for the slow people in the future stay off the caffeine, and have a fun weekend right, because people getting run over is funny stuff. Do any standup in Aurora? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 620 #139 July 27, 2012 I thought we were expected to cower, not stand up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #140 July 27, 2012 QuoteI thought we were expected to cower, not stand up. You do realize that some people in the theater are alive today simply because they dropped to the ground and played dead; right?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #141 July 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteI thought we were expected to cower, not stand up. You do realize that some people in the theater are alive today simply because they dropped to the ground and played dead; right? I think you missed some thread drift here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #142 July 30, 2012 Quote and the NRA won't allow screening to purchase a firearm You lied to your daughter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #143 July 30, 2012 This post of yours explains that you have actually no interest in anything but pushing your opinion on others. QuoteIn this case it would make zero difference if people had a weapon with which to "defend" themselves. The attack still would have happened precisely the way it did and was enabled because of the ease of access the perp had to the weapons he specifically chose for the task at hand. And I have to ask... What experience do YOU have in tactical shooting situations that allows you to have such an expert opinion? You are like the 5 jump wonder talking to YOU about how easy it is to jump a camera. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #144 July 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI'm not the one who just expressed complete ignorance of the law, or said that cyclists deserve to get run down tongue in cheek, Kelpy. Indicated by the total non sequitor, I'll try to use smileys for the slow people in the future stay off the caffeine, and have a fun weekend right, because people getting run over is funny stuff. Do any standup in Aurora? as soon as the crowds die down ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #145 July 30, 2012 Well played.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
