WalMart Heirs Have Same Net Worth As the Bottom 30 Percent Of Americans
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dreamdancer, in Speakers Corner
QuoteEarlier you declared that the rich have a stranglehold on our government and will be on top forever due to military might. On that statement there is sufficient recent evidence to show it to be utterly false.
Bullshit. Read your quoted sentence. See the keyword "our"? And you guys are using some stoopid shit concerning the old USSR to refute?
Who's on top?
Who rules this country?
Who directs the military?
What would even your local LEOs do when...
...you try an armed insurrection against...guess who....OUR goobermint and whoever is on top.
If you have the weaponry to handle all that then I want to be standing behind you when you kick it all off.
QuoteThere are many possible outcomes from concentration of wealth. Looks south of the border at places like Venezuela, or to the middle east right now for some of the more dramatic ones. In spite of a strong military and a society of limited rights, there was still upheaval.
You mean countries where the military coup is prevalent?
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
QuoteLife through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay
[Reply]Good thoughts? Strike one!
Good words? Strike two.
Good deeds? Strike three! Yer out!!!
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This is unlike you.
I fail to see the problem with his statement other than it being unrealistic in today's U.S. society. Idealistic? Yes. I don't see a problem with striving for the ideal.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
QuoteQuoteBut in contrast, even the "poor" of America live far better than the vast majority of the world, so there's not quite the same level of despair and motivation to act accordingly.
It really is amazing. And compared to the poor of 1920, most of America's poor have flatscreens, smart phones, cars, Xbox, air conditioning, internet, medicare, and foodstamps.
Absolute luxuries compared to 100 years ago (and some other parts of the world).
Yes. And it demonstrates the difference between goobermint-defined poverty and real poverty.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
devildog 0
QuoteQuoteEarlier you declared that the rich have a stranglehold on our government and will be on top forever due to military might. On that statement there is sufficient recent evidence to show it to be utterly false.
Bullshit. Read your quoted sentence. See the keyword "our"? And you guys are using some stoopid shit concerning the old USSR to refute?
Who's on top?
Who rules this country?
Who directs the military?
What would even your local LEOs do when...
...you try an armed insurrection against...guess who....OUR goobermint and whoever is on top.
If you have the weaponry to handle all that then I want to be standing behind you when you kick it all off.QuoteThere are many possible outcomes from concentration of wealth. Looks south of the border at places like Venezuela, or to the middle east right now for some of the more dramatic ones. In spite of a strong military and a society of limited rights, there was still upheaval.
You mean countries where the military coup is prevalent?
Just playing, "what if," it would depend on just how many people were in this armed revolt. There's already enough small arms out there to ensure weapons for this hypothetical army, so we don't have to consider that. As for the military's and LEOs reaction, the LEOs would probably be trying just to keep peace and wouldn't be worth much, gov't wise. Since they are civilians as well, whatever the population % is rebelling, you could probably count on that many LEOs siding with the rebellion as well. Lastly, let's consider what the military would look like. A while back, I read a report that basically asked whether or not members of the military would fire on civilians in order to confiscate guns. A third said they would follow orders, a third said they wouldn't, another third weren't sure. So, if given 3 million current members in the military, it's not a huge stretch to think anywhere from a third to a half would refuse to engage, go AWOL, side with the rebellion, etc. especially since 1/2 those numbers are reserves, and thus in the civilian life most of the time.
Now, the US military even at half strength would certainly defeat any lesser, ill trained, civilian uprising. But, what if whatever sparked this revolt ended up with 10,20, 40 million+ people, all armed, all around the country. Now its no longer just a firefight here or there, now we're talking soldiers getting shot at wherever they go, as well as massive logistic problems. Tanks and planes are nice, but it's infantry that take and hold ground. Just getting fuel from A to B would be a nightmare, let alone food, ammo, etc. especially since those darn civilians were the ones that were originally providing you with those things. So unless the military went full scorched earth policy, they'd die by a thousand paper cuts. And full scorched earth just brings about its own problems as well, both national and international. Lastly, if this rebellion lasted any amount of time, there are all sorts of countries and groups out there that would love to arm them with better gear if they are fighting the US govt in open war. Not too mention any defectors from the military could certainly bring equipment and such over.
Anywho, point is, whoever is on top currently, doesn't have an iron clad grip that can never be broken by force atm.
You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.
I was pointing out his written assault against "trust fund babies" and killing them, and contrasting it with his signature, which in anathema to what he wrote.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
shah269 0
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So what is your take on such vast sums of capital being concentrated in such few hands and how it helps or hinders a economy.
Please provide your answer with the least amount of spin and name calling.
Thank you.
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Your question (there must be one somewhere) is a bit vague.
Earlier you declared that the rich have a stranglehold on our government and will be on top forever due to military might. On that statement there is sufficient recent evidence to show it to be utterly false.
There are many possible outcomes from concentration of wealth. Looks south of the border at places like Venezuela, or to the middle east right now for some of the more dramatic ones. In spite of a strong military and a society of limited rights, there was still upheaval.
But in contrast, even the "poor" of America live far better than the vast majority of the world, so there's not quite the same level of despair and motivation to act accordingly.
I'm sorry but i'm not a jellocrat, i have a spine.
Please respect that and provide me with a well thought out analysis with respect to movement of capital and how such movements of capital generate jobs and how when such vast sums of capital are withheld from the market how the markets will react.
There is no room for spin in economics. Just facts.
Try again.
Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.
The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!
The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!
shah269 0
QuoteI was pointing out his written assault against "trust fund babies" and killing them, and contrasting it with his signature, which in anathema to what he wrote.
I have the right to dislike trust fund babies as much as you have the right to dislike other people.
I for one find them of little value to our society or our economy.
Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.
The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!
The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!
It really is amazing. And compared to the poor of 1920, most of America's poor have flatscreens, smart phones, cars, Xbox, air conditioning, internet, medicare, and foodstamps.
Absolute luxuries compared to 100 years ago (and some other parts of the world).
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