masterrig 1 #26 November 8, 2011 Quote Quote Quote .... I have no need to. I don't break the law, and when and if I do, I pay the fine and move on with my life. Wow. Two voices in one man - Or better said: What a fine example of two contradictory statements in one sentence, made by one man ...? Mmuhahahahahahaa, you're such a funny attorney at law ..... ROFLMAO You have to forgive certain people here.... you know hw delusions come and go. Maybe, it's the bad mushrooms or peyote? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #27 November 8, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote .... I have no need to. I don't break the law, and when and if I do, I pay the fine and move on with my life. Wow. Two voices in one man - Or better said: What a fine example of two contradictory statements in one sentence, made by one man ...? Mmuhahahahahahaa, you're such a funny attorney at law ..... ROFLMAO You have to forgive certain people here.... you know hw delusions come and go. Maybe, it's the bad mushrooms or peyote? Chuck My police sergeant friend was far more honest. In America today it is impossible to NOT be breaking some law that an officer can use to initiate a "contact" That is a very sad indictment of our system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #28 November 8, 2011 I can understand that. If, the person being stopped is of some minority race, the cop is 'profiling'. A real common reason for stopping drivers is an out tail-light or dim license plate light. Cops do haveto watch their step. It's tough for police to really make a 'good' stop other than the obvious weaving or the thick cloud of smoke pouring out the side window. My crack about the mushrooms was aimed at a poster. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #29 November 8, 2011 Quote .... (sung to the tune of 'Rawhide') He's trollin', trollin', trollin',... .... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #30 November 8, 2011 Quote I can understand that. If, the person being stopped is of some minority race, the cop is 'profiling'. A real common reason for stopping drivers is an out tail-light or dim license plate light. Cops do haveto watch their step. It's tough for police to really make a 'good' stop other than the obvious weaving or the thick cloud of smoke pouring out the side window. My crack about the mushrooms was aimed at a poster. Chuck Based on some peoples posting styles... I do not doubt it one bit.... its kinda obvious that substance abuse is a very large part of their lives. Not that there is anything wrong with that if they want to take the chance of getting to know their local police far better than I certainly wish to know them in tha way. Me... I prefer my high to be ALTITUDE... either in a plane... in or or leaving it... or... mountains.. GAWD I love the mountains this time of year... ski season is almost here. Terhe was 2 foot of new snow up there on Sat when I drove up to check it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #31 November 8, 2011 QuoteIn America today it is impossible to NOT be breaking some law that an officer can use to initiate a "contact" That is a very sad indictment of our system. Yep. A pretextual stop. Whren v. US. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/95-5841.ZO.html This case upholds that authority. The opinion was authored by Scalia. The dissent was authored by, um, there was no dissent. A unanimous decision. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #32 November 8, 2011 Quote Quote I can understand that. If, the person being stopped is of some minority race, the cop is 'profiling'. A real common reason for stopping drivers is an out tail-light or dim license plate light. Cops do haveto watch their step. It's tough for police to really make a 'good' stop other than the obvious weaving or the thick cloud of smoke pouring out the side window. My crack about the mushrooms was aimed at a poster. Chuck Based on some peoples posting styles... I do not doubt it one bit.... its kinda obvious that substance abuse is a very large part of their lives. Not that there is anything wrong with that if they want to take the chance of getting to know their local police far better than I certainly wish to know them in tha way. Me... I prefer my high to be ALTITUDE... either in a plane... in or or leaving it... or... mountains.. GAWD I love the mountains this time of year... ski season is almost here. Terhe was 2 foot of new snow up there on Sat when I drove up to check it out. Good Lord! That's just gorgepus country!!! Dope is stoopid! If, others want to do that shit, that's fine. I get my 'high' riding my horse and working cattle. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sacex250 0 #33 November 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteIn America today it is impossible to NOT be breaking some law that an officer can use to initiate a "contact" That is a very sad indictment of our system. Yep. A pretextual stop. Whren v. US. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/95-5841.ZO.html This case upholds that authority. The opinion was authored by Scalia. The dissent was authored by, um, there was no dissent. A unanimous decision. Which was the point! The police can stop anyone they want to. It's impossible to avoid a police contact.It's all been said before, no sense repeating it here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #34 November 9, 2011 Indeed. And it sucks ass. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #35 November 9, 2011 Quotehttp://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2011/11/04/10-35636.pdf These cops better hope there's no parents on the jury... Wow. Nasty case. Hard to believe the district court judge granted summary judgment for the cops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #36 November 9, 2011 Surely you don't think that police running amok is a joke, do you? How many instances would it take for you to come to the conclusion that it might be a real problem?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,935 #37 November 9, 2011 QuoteSurely you don't think that police running amok is a joke, do you? How many instances would it take for you to come to the conclusion that it might be a real problem? True. Funny how the police object so strongly to being videotaped. www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-turley-video-20111108,0,2342191.story?track=lat-pick... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #38 November 9, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I can understand that. If, the person being stopped is of some minority race, the cop is 'profiling'. A real common reason for stopping drivers is an out tail-light or dim license plate light. Cops do haveto watch their step. It's tough for police to really make a 'good' stop other than the obvious weaving or the thick cloud of smoke pouring out the side window. My crack about the mushrooms was aimed at a poster. Chuck Based on some peoples posting styles... I do not doubt it one bit.... its kinda obvious that substance abuse is a very large part of their lives. Not that there is anything wrong with that if they want to take the chance of getting to know their local police far better than I certainly wish to know them in tha way. Me... I prefer my high to be ALTITUDE... either in a plane... in or or leaving it... or... mountains.. GAWD I love the mountains this time of year... ski season is almost here. Terhe was 2 foot of new snow up there on Sat when I drove up to check it out. Good Lord! That's just gorgepus country!!! Dope is stoopid! If, others want to do that shit, that's fine. I get my 'high' riding my horse and working cattle. Chuck Yup.. that is why I love it so... BUT... you can only see those mountains during the summer and a VERY odd few days in winter when a high pressure system sits over us and it gets clear.. and cold. Otherwise.. its overcast.. and lots of rain in the valley and HUGE amounts of snow where I took that picture from. A normal year... gets about 60 FEET of snow right where I am standing It does make for some AWSUM skiing and snowboardingLike I said.. if someone wants to do dope.. go for it.. just don't expect me to hang out with ya.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TKE_440 0 #39 November 9, 2011 My post was merely on the merit of the author alone. This article was nothing more than conjecture with absolutely nothing but imagination running amok. My stance remains that if he wanted to hit on the subject of police brutality, then using language how he did is, in the simplest form, wrong. Hard for me to take anything more he says seriously. The sad part is I am sure some are out there using what he writes as gospel, and even quoting him as a certainty. This is strictly opinion without even the closest shred of justification. However, to touch on the subject, police brutality is not a joke. Not quite sure how you could come to that inference with what I wrote - but, hey, whatever. I see the same videos you and the rest of the public see showing police brutality, and as always, it is wrong. If they are guilty, then they need to face the charges. In no way did I ever condone police brutality. You are right, it is no joke; and never did I say it was. Let me add to avoid anyone again misunderstanding. I DO NOT believe that police brutality exists only in the imagination of Paul Craig Roberts, but rather is a real concern that will always need to be dealt with. What I do believe is his exaggeration solely on facts that he did imagine to be true. Without any statistical analysis, saying "one might conclude" still has me laughing; even more so on how anyone could take him seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #40 November 9, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Aww... Someone's a bit too old and unattractive to flirt her way out of tickets... Nah I refuse to use your way.. and put a Benjamin in with the paperwork I have no need to. I don't break the law, and when and if I do, I pay the fine and move on with my life. RIIIIIGHT.... Sorry.. but now we all know the REAL Desert Attorney.You mean WHEN you get caught breaking the law...lots of difference there counselor Prove it. Oh must have hit a raw nerve there... and here you were not even being PAID to perform your primary function in life... tsk tsk tsk Replace your batteries NOW girl, before you go postal"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #41 November 9, 2011 You have to forgive certain people here.... you know hw delusions come and go. Yes we need to We do for you every day"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #42 November 9, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote I can understand that. If, the person being stopped is of some minority race, the cop is 'profiling'. A real common reason for stopping drivers is an out tail-light or dim license plate light. Cops do haveto watch their step. It's tough for police to really make a 'good' stop other than the obvious weaving or the thick cloud of smoke pouring out the side window. My crack about the mushrooms was aimed at a poster. Chuck Based on some peoples posting styles... I do not doubt it one bit.... its kinda obvious that substance abuse is a very large part of their lives. Not that there is anything wrong with that if they want to take the chance of getting to know their local police far better than I certainly wish to know them in tha way. Me... I prefer my high to be ALTITUDE... either in a plane... in or or leaving it... or... mountains.. GAWD I love the mountains this time of year... ski season is almost here. Terhe was 2 foot of new snow up there on Sat when I drove up to check it out. Good Lord! That's just gorgepus country!!! Dope is stoopid! If, others want to do that shit, that's fine. I get my 'high' riding my horse and working cattle. Chuck Yup.. that is why I love it so... BUT... you can only see those mountains during the summer and a VERY odd few days in winter when a high pressure system sits over us and it gets clear.. and cold. Otherwise.. its overcast.. and lots of rain in the valley and HUGE amounts of snow where I took that picture from. A normal year... gets about 60 FEET of snow right where I am standing It does make for some AWSUM skiing and snowboardingLike I said.. if someone wants to do dope.. go for it.. just don't expect me to hang out with ya.... That's really something. I wish we had some of that snow here in West Texas! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #43 November 9, 2011 Quote Replace your batteries NOW girl, before you go postal Poor wittle Marc bless your little heart.. never anything to add... we forgive you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
