dreamdancer 0 #1 November 5, 2011 getting silly... QuoteKayvan Sabehgi, 32, a former Army ranger who served two tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, is in intensive care with a ruptured spleen after being beaten with batons by police while he was walking home from an Occupy Oakland protest. After being arrested, he was left in agonizing pain for 18 hours before getting medical help. The Police and Sheriff's Department are investigating. Goddamn: you think? http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/11/04-1stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #2 November 5, 2011 When the rest of the story is seen or posted I will comment then"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #3 November 5, 2011 Yep, happens all the time. The guy was walking home, 10-15 cops jump out of several cars and beat him silly....just for the fun of it. He didn't do ANYTHING cause he's a veteran and all cops are bad. Some cops are bad, some veterans are to. Your to blinded by hate to be able to look at anything but your narrow view. For me, I'll wait for some facts other than that bs new artical that said nothing.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #4 November 5, 2011 QuoteYep, happens all the time. you'd think the police (acting on behalf of the 1%) would have a little more respect. probably going to be more of this...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #5 November 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteYep, happens all the time. you'd think the police (acting on behalf of the 1%) would have a little more respect. probably going to be more of this... Since we're of and running just assuming things this fine day, I'll jump in. I'll be willing to bet he was refusing a lawful order to disperse and confronted the coppers. You'd think a vet would have more respect for people in uniform and the laws of his country.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #6 November 5, 2011 +1 Just because you are a Veteran doesn't mean you can't be an idiot._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #7 November 5, 2011 and i'd be more than willing to bet that the police are proud of the work they're doing on behalf of the 1%stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #8 November 5, 2011 lots of 'idiots' for the police to beat to death then. don't look citizen - it's not you (yet)...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #9 November 5, 2011 Quoteand i'd be more than willing to bet that the police are proud of the work they're doing on behalf of the 1% I've said it before and I will say it again. If you want to get rid of bad cops you got to get rid of the police unions. Before you can fire a bad cop, you have to go through a wall of lawyers and legislation. Till you do that, you get what you get. Suck it up or make the change."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #10 November 5, 2011 Quoteand i'd be more than willing to bet that the police are proud of the work they're doing on behalf of the 1% So you think these little protests are actually going to change the basis of our society? The top 1% got their because...now get this....our society allows anybody to do so! To make any changes that would affect the current top 1% would also affect the other 99% in the same way. The cops aren't working just for the top 1%. They are working for everyone. They are upholding the laws and rules of the society we all live in. What you, and the protesters, are asking is for the cops to enforce the laws only on a certain segment of society, the segment that YOU chose to enforce the laws on. The protesters are a very small, very vocal minority. They have been allowed to hold their protests for quite a while and now it is time for them to stop imposing their BS on everyone else. The parks they are trying to take over are there for everyone's enjoyment, not just for them to "pitch a tent and bitch & vent". Do you really think the cops are proud of hurting people? I'm sure there are some who do get off on it, but the vast majority would rather be able to get through each and every day with as little excitement as possible.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #11 November 5, 2011 poll after poll has shown that the protesters have the support of the majority of the population. the 1% had better take note and the police had better decide whether they're working for the 1% (and their money) or the rest of us...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #12 November 5, 2011 Quotepoll after poll has shown that the protesters have the support of the majority of the population. the 1% had better take note and the police had better decide whether they're working for the 1% (and their money) or the rest of us... -So you expect the police to ignore the law? -Let's see some of the "poll after poll" of which you speak. -How do you propose to take away from the rich without stepping on the same rights you wish to preserve for yourself?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain_stan 0 #13 November 5, 2011 Quote poll after poll has shown that the protesters have the support of the majority of the population. I want to see the polls that show how many Americans support those who are breaking the law and the polls that show how many want the police to stop enforcing it. Quote and i'd be more than willing to bet So you admit that your posts are speculative and not factual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertAttorney 0 #14 November 5, 2011 Quotegetting silly... QuoteKayvan Sabehgi, 32, a former Army ranger who served two tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, is in intensive care with a ruptured spleen after being beaten with batons by police while he was walking home from an Occupy Oakland protest. After being arrested, he was left in agonizing pain for 18 hours before getting medical help. The Police and Sheriff's Department are investigating. Goddamn: you think? http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/11/04-1 Being a Veteran does not free one from the obligation to follow the law. He is entitled to no more or less consideration than a non-Veteran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 November 5, 2011 You *are* aware that the first guy was clobbered by his *own* side, and wasn't hurt as badly as claimed...right?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #16 November 5, 2011 QuoteAt a time when protests have erupted across the country over a growing inequality of wealth and Congress is considering measures to impose a surtax on those earning more than $1 million annually, the public seems to be in a populist mood--one that's tempered by skepticism about Washington's ability to do anything about the grim economy. A new survey shows that Americans overwhelmingly support the self-styled Occupy Wall Street protests that not only have disrupted life in Lower Manhattan but also in Washington and cities and towns across the U.S. and in other nations. Some 59 percent of adults either completely agree or mostly agree with the protesters. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/10/poll-most-americans-support-occupy-wall-street/246963/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertAttorney 0 #17 November 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteAt a time when protests have erupted across the country over a growing inequality of wealth and Congress is considering measures to impose a surtax on those earning more than $1 million annually, the public seems to be in a populist mood--one that's tempered by skepticism about Washington's ability to do anything about the grim economy. A new survey shows that Americans overwhelmingly support the self-styled Occupy Wall Street protests that not only have disrupted life in Lower Manhattan but also in Washington and cities and towns across the U.S. and in other nations. Some 59 percent of adults either completely agree or mostly agree with the protesters. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/10/poll-most-americans-support-occupy-wall-street/246963/ And...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #18 November 5, 2011 that's a majority...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertAttorney 0 #19 November 5, 2011 Quotethat's a majority... Thank You, Captain Obvious. Now then, what is your point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #20 November 5, 2011 Quote Quote At a time when protests have erupted across the country over a growing inequality of wealth and Congress is considering measures to impose a surtax on those earning more than $1 million annually, the public seems to be in a populist mood--one that's tempered by skepticism about Washington's ability to do anything about the grim economy. A new survey shows that Americans overwhelmingly support the self-styled Occupy Wall Street protests that not only have disrupted life in Lower Manhattan but also in Washington and cities and towns across the U.S. and in other nations. Some 59 percent of adults either completely agree or mostly agree with the protesters. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/10/poll-most-americans-support-occupy-wall-street/246963/ Ok, that's one. You said "poll after poll". You need at least one more to make your statement true. Hopefully something a little more recent. Are you going to answer my question about whether the police should just ignore the law?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #21 November 5, 2011 QuoteThroughout the fall, the United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection Poll has revealed an electorate that's extremely critical of Congress and wary of embracing any particular policy prescription for getting the American economy growing more briskly. The millionaire's surtax has cut through the clutter. Although it may not be surprising that 90 percent of Democrats support this Democratic proposal, it's notable that 71 percent of independents do and even 37 percent of Republicans like this kind of a tax increase. When it comes to those Wall Street protests, there's also a populist streak: Remarkably, nearly one-third of Republicans--31 percent--completely or mostly agree with their aims. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/10/poll-most-americans-support-occupy-wall-street/246963/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertAttorney 0 #22 November 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteThroughout the fall, the United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection Poll has revealed an electorate that's extremely critical of Congress and wary of embracing any particular policy prescription for getting the American economy growing more briskly. The millionaire's surtax has cut through the clutter. Although it may not be surprising that 90 percent of Democrats support this Democratic proposal, it's notable that 71 percent of independents do and even 37 percent of Republicans like this kind of a tax increase. When it comes to those Wall Street protests, there's also a populist streak: Remarkably, nearly one-third of Republicans--31 percent--completely or mostly agree with their aims. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/10/poll-most-americans-support-occupy-wall-street/246963/ Again, once more for clarity: And...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #23 November 5, 2011 the 1% have lost control of the agenda... QuoteWhile there are different agendas within the "Occupy Wall Street" movement, nearly all of the protesters say that wealth has become too concentrated among a relatively small group of Americans. The poll found that most Americans agree with that assessment: Two in three say that wealth is not distributed as equitably as it should be, while just one in four says wealth is distributed fairly. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20125515-503544/poll-43-percent-agree-with-views-of-occupy-wall-street/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 November 5, 2011 Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertAttorney 0 #25 November 5, 2011 Quotethe 1% have lost control of the agenda... QuoteWhile there are different agendas within the "Occupy Wall Street" movement, nearly all of the protesters say that wealth has become too concentrated among a relatively small group of Americans. The poll found that most Americans agree with that assessment: Two in three say that wealth is not distributed as equitably as it should be, while just one in four says wealth is distributed fairly. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20125515-503544/poll-43-percent-agree-with-views-of-occupy-wall-street/ Wealth is not to be distributed. It is to be earned. And, This is not preschool--No one ever said Life is fair, nor should it be forced to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
