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Since it was the Dems that shot down the appropriations bill, why are you suggesting calling out the Reps on it?
Wouldn't have anything to do with the content of the bill would it? Both the D's and R's are to blame for the shutdown. It's just ironic that the same R's who would destroy our credit rating in order to make a personaly political stand about fiscal responsibility have no problem throwing thousands of people into the unemployment line and ignore a revenue stream.
No, that was Obama too...you remember; the bit about "I can't be sure those checks will go out".
QuoteQuoteI would love to hear an honest answer to that question from our elected officials.
Maybe you can start by asking Obama why he was demanding a debt limit increase that would last through the end of 2012...
Because he's smart enough to take that issue off the table for the election cycle. Practically everyone in Washington agreed that we needed to increase the debt ceiling but candidates won't be honest about that while they're trying to get re-elected. Also, that's when we're going to revisit the Bush tax cut expiration again. Might as well make it a package deal.
So it's ok if the Dems do it, just not the Reps?
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I'll ask you a direct question. Do you want unemployment to drop and economic growth to take off in the next few months?
Sure I would. What's amazing is that you think the same old crap that HASN'T worked for the last 2 years will somehow magically work now.
This is what....the sixth time he's done a "hard pivot" to jobs? Seventh?
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QuoteQuote... ignore a revenue stream.
Do you want the government to view everything as a revenue stream?
Revenues were being collected at about $30 mil/day.
Now those revenues are not being collected due to the shut down. That's a loss of revenue.
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuote... ignore a revenue stream.
Do you want the government to view everything as a revenue stream?
Revenues were being collected at about $30 mil/day.
Now those revenues are not being collected due to the shut down. That's a loss of revenue.
And they could still be collecting it if the Dems hadn't shot down the bill.
Mike
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Because he's smart enough to take that issue off the table for the election cycle. Practically everyone in Washington agreed that we needed to increase the debt ceiling but candidates won't be honest about that while they're trying to get re-elected. Also, that's when we're going to revisit the Bush tax cut expiration again. Might as well make it a package deal.
So it's ok if the Dems do it, just not the Reps?
I'm not following your perceived double standard.
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I'll ask you a direct question. Do you want unemployment to drop and economic growth to take off in the next few months?
Sure I would. ....
Good answer.
mnealtx 0
QuoteI'm not following your perceived double standard.
You're saying the Reps aren't acting because they want employment to stay low until the election cycle, and blaming them for the issues, while saying there's no problem with Obama punting the debt ceiling issue until after the election cycle.
QuoteSure I would. ....
Good answer.
Nice snip of the REST of my statement...maybe you can answer it now?
"What's amazing is that you think the same old crap that HASN'T worked for the last 2 years will somehow magically work now.
This is what....the sixth time he's done a "hard pivot" to jobs? Seventh?"
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote... ignore a revenue stream.
Do you want the government to view everything as a revenue stream?
Revenues were being collected at about $30 mil/day.
Now those revenues are not being collected due to the shut down. That's a loss of revenue.
And they could still be collecting it if the Dems hadn't shot down the bill.
Sure, if the Dems had caved to the Republican demands then the FAA would be open. I've been hearing that argument a lot recently, especially from Boehner. If the Democrats will simply compromise their ideology and forget expecting the Republicans to compromise AT ALL then we wouldn't have these impasses.
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QuoteSure, if the Dems had caved to the Republican demands then the FAA would be open. I've been hearing that argument a lot recently, especially from Boehner. If the Democrats will simply compromise their ideology and forget expecting the Republicans to compromise AT ALL then we wouldn't have these impasses.
You mean the bill that DIDN'T have the union issues in it? Sounds like a compromise from the Reps, to me. It appears that your idea of compromise is exactly what you're falsely accusing the Reps of.
Mike
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Whatever else, the word "compromise" in Washington (at least) only means the "other guys" have to move in my direction. Regardless of who's saying it.
But lately, especially the pres has been on that kick so much, I suspect everyone now knows that little trick. I'd like to thank the president for overusing that trick so blatantly - perhaps the voters will see more clearly now when their D and R statesmen are doing it too and call them out on it.
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
But lately, especially the pres has been on that kick so much, I suspect everyone now knows that little trick. I'd like to thank the president for overusing that trick so blatantly - perhaps the voters will see more clearly now when their D and R statesmen are doing it too and call them out on it.
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
QuoteQuoteSure I would. ....
Good answer.
Nice snip of the REST of my statement...maybe you can answer it now?
"What's amazing is that you think the same old crap that HASN'T worked for the last 2 years will somehow magically work now.
This is what....the sixth time he's done a "hard pivot" to jobs? Seventh?"
It has been working. Growth has been anemic but it's still growth. We avoided a depression. We saved our auto industry and the jobs of hundreds of thousands of people who rely on it. A couple million jobs total by some estimates have been saved or created. Although it's admittedly hard to prove a negative. I think that's going to be tough for Obama next year. It's hard to run on "hey, look what didn't happen". It would be like me being a spokesman for Vigil. "Hey there, I love my Vigil....although I have no idea whether or not mine works."
But before we stray too far, none of this has anything to do with the "starve the beast" strategy that we're suffering from at the moment.
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Do you want the government to view everything as a revenue stream?
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