Who Failed

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Watch this and determine who failed ...

Edit: Now that people have posted. I think the parent(s) failed first and the kid failed second. I applaud the cops for using pepper spray instead of a taser.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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He did not remember the previous talk downs. Do you think he will remember the pepper spray?

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Watch this and determine who failed ...

The one that failed is the kid's mom.

I believe this is a good example of the proper use of a less-than-lethal solution. Nobody got hurt, nobody went to the hospital. I'm not an expert by any means, but exactly what would you have the police do? Clearly "talking him down" ultimately hasn't proven effective. Maybe this will change a few synapses in his brain so he'll remember if he does it again he can expect to get sprayed rather than simply coddled.

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"It's just who I am. I have anger issues. I don't think they will ever go away" - Aidan the 8 year old

If this is not a red flag to a future felon (possible mass murderer) I don't know what is. Society is in a deep spiral and it can all be traced to poor parenting. I don't have an easy answer to this kid (at least not an answer Liberals would accept). But this kid needs a radical make over. Hugs, kisses, sugar plumbs, unicorns and teddy bears will not cure ticking time bomb.

BTW ... I support the cops for pepper spraying the brat. How else were they supposed to control him? He did arm himself with a sharp piece of wood and even an 8 year old can use a sharp piece of wood to impale another person.

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Watch this and determine who failed ...

The one that failed is the kid's mom.

I believe this is a good example of the proper use of a less-than-lethal solution. Nobody got hurt, nobody went to the hospital. I'm not an expert my any means, but exactly what would you have the police do? Clearly "talking him down" ultimately hasn't proven effective. Maybe this will change a few synapses in his brain so he'll remember if he does it again he can expect to get sprayed rather than simply coddled.

Agreed

on all points

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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"It's just who I am. I have anger issues. I don't think they will ever go away" - Aidan the 8 year old

If this is not a red flag to a future felon (possible mass murderer) I don't know what is. Society is in a deep spiral and it can all be traced to poor parenting. I don't have an easy answer to this kid (at least not an answer Liberals would accept). But this kid needs a radical make over. Hugs, kisses, sugar plumbs, unicorns and teddy bears will not cure ticking time bomb.

BTW ... I support the cops for pepper spraying the brat. How else were they supposed to control him? He did arm himself with a sharp piece of wood and even an 8 year old can use a sharp piece of wood to impale another person.

Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

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Watch this and determine who failed ...

The one that failed is the kid's mom.

I believe this is a good example of the proper use of a less-than-lethal solution. Nobody got hurt, nobody went to the hospital. I'm not an expert my any means, but exactly what would you have the police do? Clearly "talking him down" ultimately hasn't proven effective. Maybe this will change a few synapses in his brain so he'll remember if he does it again he can expect to get sprayed rather than simply coddled.

Agreed

on all points

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The kid clearly has issues.

The parents clearly have not done a great job.

I can't fault the police for spraying him... I think it was justified.

I am glad he is under care of a Dr... I wonder why he is not on some type of drug????

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>If this is not a red flag to a future felon (possible mass murderer) I don't know what is.

Fair enough.

>Hugs, kisses, sugar plumbs, unicorns and teddy bears will not cure ticking time bomb.

Also agreed. Now -

When he becomes an adult (assuming he's not committed any _serious_ crimes in the meantime) should he be able to buy a gun?

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

Speakers Corner ... where a thread about parenting can turn into a thread about guns in six posts.

PS: Instead of stopping this kid from having a gun maybe we should stop this parent(s) from having a kid. There, that should put it back on track ...

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

Speakers Corner ... where a thread about parenting can turn into a thread about guns in six posts.

PS: Instead of stopping this kid from having a gun maybe we should stop this parent(s) from having a kid. There, that should put it back on track ...

Ohhh so you support eugenics.... how very master race-ish of you.

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Unfortunately, not every parent is equipped to deal with every kid, and not every problem can be effectively drugged.

Sounds like he's a graduate-level-parenting-skills-needed kid, when his mother has roughly third-grade level parenting skills (he's fed, he is going to the doctor, and she didn't say that her boy was an angel).

And not every police officer has the same talking-down skills, either.

Whose "fault?" Closest to being the mother's, but that's like saying that a barely-average-intelligence kid being thrown into MIT is at fault. He's not equipped to handle it.

Give me a kid like that and I might to better, but the stuff I tried might not work, either. And if you don't have the money for hospitalization and boarding schools, well, then you're at the mercy of whatever services you can find.

What about if she does whale on him a lot, and he gets bigger, and figures that it's his turn to whale on others now. All I'm saying is that the answers aren't always obvious.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

Speakers Corner ... where a thread about parenting can turn into a thread about guns in six posts.

PS: Instead of stopping this kid from having a gun maybe we should stop this parent(s) from having a kid. There, that should put it back on track ...

Ohhh so you support eugenics.... how very master race-ish of you.

First, I didn't support it. Second, there is a difference between culture and race ... you can comprehend that, can't you?

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

Speakers Corner ... where a thread about parenting can turn into a thread about guns in six posts.

PS: Instead of stopping this kid from having a gun maybe we should stop this parent(s) from having a kid. There, that should put it back on track ...

Ohhh so you support eugenics.... how very master race-ish of you.

First, I didn't support it. Second, there is a difference between culture and race ... you can comprehend that, can't you?

Uh dude.. you are the one wishing to... how did you put it...."maybe we should stop this parent(s) from having a kid."

What is YOUR personal litmus test for joining YOUR particular Master Race....

Its been somewhat of a sliding scale ya know.

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

Speakers Corner ... where a thread about parenting can turn into a thread about guns in six posts.

PS: Instead of stopping this kid from having a gun maybe we should stop this parent(s) from having a kid. There, that should put it back on track ...

Ohhh so you support eugenics.... how very master race-ish of you.

First, I didn't support it. Second, there is a difference between culture and race ... you can comprehend that, can't you?

Uh dude.. you are the one wishing to... how did you put it...."maybe we should stop this parent(s) from having a kid."

What is YOUR personal litmus test for joining YOUR particular Master Race....

Its been somewhat of a sliding scale ya know.

First, it was a question, not a statement. Hence the maybe. Second, it appears that you don't know the difference between culture and race ... just add it to the list of mistakes you've made and try to learn from it.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

Speakers Corner ... where a thread about parenting can turn into a thread about guns in six posts.

PS: Instead of stopping this kid from having a gun maybe we should stop this parent(s) from having a kid. There, that should put it back on track ...

Ohhh so you support eugenics.... how very master race-ish of you.

First, I didn't support it. Second, there is a difference between culture and race ... you can comprehend that, can't you?

Uh dude.. you are the one wishing to... how did you put it...."maybe we should stop this parent(s) from having a kid."

What is YOUR personal litmus test for joining YOUR particular Master Race....

Its been somewhat of a sliding scale ya know.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That is funny even for you

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Carefull with that back peddlin you do so much....

First, it was a question, not a statement. Hence the maybe. Second, it appears that you don't know the difference between culture and race ... just add it to the list of mistakes you've made and try to learn from it.

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

so...you want to treat this 8 year old as an adult for his actions?

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

Judging on this brat's current behavior and if he does not show radical signs of improvement, he absolutely needs to be red flagged and be excluded from future firearms ownership. But there is nothing stopping him from obtaining illegal firearms.

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

so...you want to treat this 8 year old as an adult for his actions?

Ah yes one of the GREAT DEFENDERS of the ALMIGHTY GUN no matter what..... I was wondering when you would get here.... Hey... by you and your fellow travellers estimation.. since he has not been convicted of anything.. then he deserves his rights to buy all the guns he wishes.. He will be a model citizen in 10 years... just for you.

Past performance is indicitive of future performance... and that 18 year old age boundry looms LARGE where his childhood "issues" dissappear.

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

so...you want to treat this 8 year old as an adult for his actions?

Ah yes one of the GREAT DEFENDERS of the ALMIGHTY GUN no matter what..... I was wondering when you would get here.... Hey... by you and your fellow travellers estimation.. since he has not been convicted of anything.. then he deserves his rights to buy all the guns he wishes.. He will be a model citizen in 10 years... just for you.

Past performance is indicitive of future performance... and that 18 year old age boundry looms LARGE where his childhood "issues" dissappear.

so does all that translate to "yes?"

It's a policy neutral question - you're a bit less consistent than other leftists (esp since you like you being allowed to have guns, if no one else - actually, that's exactly the leftist line), so I don't know where you stand on the processing of kids in the criminal justice system.

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Hmmm I wonder if any of your fellow travellers are reading your post and wanting to make sure he is not denied his future right to own or acquire firearms.

so...you want to treat this 8 year old as an adult for his actions?

Ah yes one of the GREAT DEFENDERS of the ALMIGHTY GUN no matter what..... I was wondering when you would get here.... Hey... by you and your fellow travellers estimation.. since he has not been convicted of anything.. then he deserves his rights to buy all the guns he wishes.. He will be a model citizen in 10 years... just for you.

Past performance is indicitive of future performance... and that 18 year old age boundry looms LARGE where his childhood "issues" dissappear.

so does all that translate to "yes?"

It's a policy neutral question - you're a bit less consistent than other leftists (esp since you like you being allowed to have guns, if no one else - actually, that's exactly the leftist line), so I don't know where you stand on the processing of kids in the criminal justice system.

Its only inbconsistent to you.... and those who see anyone not marching to your particular drum beat that you wish to label as "leftist".

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Lakewood / Denver police seem to have many instances where excessive force is used. In this case though, when you've got a little brat that yields weapons, threatens people's lives, and laughs and says "tee hee, I've got anger issues," I'd say kudos to the cops for spraying this little shit.

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When he becomes an adult (assuming he's not committed any _serious_ crimes in the meantime) should he be able to buy a gun?

If found guilty, should he go to adult prison?

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Unfortunately, not every parent is equipped to deal with every kid, and not every problem can be effectively drugged.

Which is why I said:

1. Kid.
2. Parents.

And why I ASKED why he was not on some type of medication.

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When he becomes an adult (assuming he's not committed any _serious_ crimes in the meantime) should he be able to buy a gun?

might be nice to examine him when he's 16 or 18 to make such a determination. But that would only be legal if he was sentenced to the youth authority for this time frame.