popsjumper 2 #126 December 25, 2010 Kinda like if you don't put in your demanded 10% tithe you're gonna burn in hell, eh? Nice.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #127 December 25, 2010 Quoteburn in hell, eh? Nice. that doesn't sound very christian...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #128 December 25, 2010 Wanting to take someone's inheritance doesn't either, eh? "You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #129 December 25, 2010 QuoteWanting to take someone's inheritance doesn't either, eh? "You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." and the super rich shouldn't covet all their neighbours money (and then give it unearned to their children) don't ya think?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #130 December 25, 2010 Quoteyou're not going to be super rich - neither are your children. so why are you whining about a tax that isn't going to affect you at all. strange. Quotea doubling of inheritance tax wouldn't affect you in the slightest - why are you so worried on behalf of the super rich? Quoteit's not going to affect you - so why worry on behalf of the super rich? How did you become so ignorant? If something doesn't affect me then I shouldn't be concerned about it? As a white man I should not be concerned with injustices against any non whites because it won't affect me. Gottcha. It's a matter of right versus wrong not whether it affects me. But for someone like yourself that has so much jealousy of rich people, it has turned to hated and blinded you to logic. So sad. (Why are we feeding him. We should all know by now that he has no logical argument about anything. It's all emotion. Lets stop feeding him. Although his post do make me laugh because of the absurdity.) ________________________________ "1981 to 1988 is 7 years"-Kallend (oops, it's actually 8 years,Kallend) The decade of the 80's was from 1980 to 1989. 10 years. If you remove 1980 and 1989 you have 1981 to 1988. 8 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #131 December 25, 2010 Sometimes we just poke him....his reactions are funny. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #132 December 25, 2010 Quote It's a matter of right versus wrong not whether it affects me. then you'll agree with me that it's wrong for the super rich (and their children) not to contribute their fair share to society...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #133 December 25, 2010 Quote Quote Wanting to take someone's inheritance doesn't either, eh? "You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." and the super rich shouldn't covet all their neighbours money (and then give it unearned to their children) don't ya think? So now your contention is the "super rich" stole their money? Wow, you do stretch things to TRY and make your point"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #134 December 25, 2010 Quote Sometimes we just poke him....his reactions are funny. There are some things on which we can agree"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #135 December 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWanting to take someone's inheritance doesn't either, eh? "You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." and the super rich shouldn't covet all their neighbours money (and then give it unearned to their children) don't ya think? So now your contention is the "super rich" stole their money? is 'coveting', 'stealing'?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #136 December 25, 2010 QuoteQuote It's a matter of right versus wrong not whether it affects me. then you'll agree with me that it's wrong for the super rich (and their children) not to contribute their fair share to society... You have missed the point again but I'm not surprised. Define fair share as it applies to everyone not just rich people. After that tell me how long is a piece of string? Hint: your answer is just your opinion without any facts to back it up. I'm done feeding you. Please continue with your absurd and uneducated remarks. I'm off to do Christmasy things with the family. ________________________________ "1981 to 1988 is 7 years"-Kallend (oops, it's actually 8 years,Kallend) The decade of the 80's was from 1980 to 1989. 10 years. If you remove 1980 and 1989 you have 1981 to 1988. 8 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #137 December 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote It's a matter of right versus wrong not whether it affects me. then you'll agree with me that it's wrong for the super rich (and their children) not to contribute their fair share to society... You have missed the point again but I'm not surprised. Define fair share as it applies to everyone not just rich people. the majority of us can see that the super rich don't contribute enough (and their children contribute even less). a little more time and even you'll be able to see the obvious.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonstark 8 #138 December 25, 2010 So... My family has been farming the same piece of dirt for four generations. We all put in our fair share as kids, go away for college and some of us come back to pull the load when the old folks get slowed down. Dad wants to leave me the farm but dies before he gets the paperwork done. I inherit the farm but have to sell it to pay the inheritance tax. Two generations have to move into an apartment in the city, get food stamps and heat assistance along with welfare. Or... JP Moneybags gets sent away to boarding school at 6 years old because Mom and Dad don't have "time" to deal with his needs. He stays gone for the next 20 years sucking on the family tit to the tune of $200k per year spent on sex, Red Bull and the fast lane. Dad and Mom crash their Canadair and Junior gets word that he's now rich. The shell game of corporate hide and seek keeps him from actually "showing any inheritance" so he just keeps on collecting his allowance all the while gathering up more and more wealth under the walnut shells his lawyers shuffle and dodge around. -but- indirectly he employs hundreds if not thousands. Hundreds of these might lose their jobs if taxes sapped the corporate capitol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #139 December 25, 2010 QuoteSo... My family has been farming the same piece of dirt for four generations. We all put in our fair share as kids, go away for college and some of us come back to pull the load when the old folks get slowed down. Dad wants to leave me the farm but dies before he gets the paperwork done. I inherit the farm but have to sell it to pay the inheritance tax. you're a fiction writer?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #140 December 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWanting to take someone's inheritance doesn't either, eh? "You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." and the super rich shouldn't covet all their neighbours money (and then give it unearned to their children) don't ya think? So now your contention is the "super rich" stole their money? is 'coveting', 'stealing'? In your case? Yes"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #141 December 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote It's a matter of right versus wrong not whether it affects me. then you'll agree with me that it's wrong for the super rich (and their children) not to contribute their fair share to society... You have missed the point again but I'm not surprised. Define fair share as it applies to everyone not just rich people. the majority of us can see that the super rich don't contribute enough (and their children contribute even less). a little more time and even you'll be able to see the obvious. Who is the majority of us?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #142 December 25, 2010 Quote Quote So... My family has been farming the same piece of dirt for four generations. We all put in our fair share as kids, go away for college and some of us come back to pull the load when the old folks get slowed down. Dad wants to leave me the farm but dies before he gets the paperwork done. I inherit the farm but have to sell it to pay the inheritance tax. you're a fiction writer? Trick question or are you really that ignorant of reality in farm country?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #143 December 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteyep. And one that they didn't even have to work for. So what? The parents already paid taxes on that money. Greed envy and jealousy is what all of this sounds like. Why should I pay sales tax when my money was already taxed when I earned it? Answer - because money isn't taxed, people are.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #144 December 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteyep. And one that they didn't even have to work for. So what? The parents already paid taxes on that money. Greed envy and jealousy is what all of this sounds like. My customers already paid taxes on the money they paid me to do construction on their house. I guess that shouldn't be taxed either? Your argument that the money has already been taxed doesn't fly. Income is taxed. Inheritance is an income. (taxed at a higher rate, which I don't necessarily agree with). Right now the first $3.5 MILLION of an estate is free of tax. The estate taxes don't affect the overwhelming majority of Americans.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #145 December 26, 2010 QuoteWanting to take someone's inheritance doesn't either, eh? "You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." Stupid argument. Why would that apply to estate tax, but not to any other tax? All taxes involve taking something of value from someone.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #146 December 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteyep. And one that they didn't even have to work for. So what? The parents already paid taxes on that money. Greed envy and jealousy is what all of this sounds like. My customers already paid taxes on the money they paid me to do construction on their house. I guess that shouldn't be taxed either? Your argument that the money has already been taxed doesn't fly. Income is taxed. Inheritance is an income. (taxed at a higher rate, which I don't necessarily agree with). Right now the first $3.5 MILLION of an estate is free of tax. The estate taxes don't affect the overwhelming majority of Americans. How many acres of land with that buy and what is the average size of the family farm in Iowa today?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #147 December 26, 2010 that's $3.5 MILLION before tax - nice little inheritancestay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #148 December 26, 2010 Quotethat's $3.5 MILLION before tax - nice little inheritance Care to answer the question? How many acres does it buy in Iowa and what is the size of an average family farm? Farm ground prices are up for many reasons One is because of a tax Can you answer what tax that is?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #149 December 26, 2010 Then of course a death tax increase will cause the price per acre to rise even more. And the end result of that will be the un rich will not be able to own farm ground becuase of said price increases I can explain why this is Can you?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #150 December 26, 2010 Quote Or... JP Moneybags gets sent away to boarding school at 6 years old because Mom and Dad don't have "time" to deal with his needs. He stays gone for the next 20 years sucking on the family tit to the tune of $200k per year spent on sex, Red Bull and the fast lane. Dad and Mom crash their Canadair and Junior gets word that he's now rich. The shell game of corporate hide and seek keeps him from actually "showing any inheritance" so he just keeps on collecting his allowance all the while gathering up more and more wealth under the walnut shells his lawyers shuffle and dodge around. -but- indirectly he employs hundreds if not thousands. Hundreds of these might lose their jobs if taxes sapped the corporate capitol. more fiction...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
