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Neurotheology: This Is Your Brain On Religion

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Is This Your Brain On God?
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And yet when 99% of these same scientist believe in evolution, you choose to ignore them.

It reminds me a bit of when a Christian researcher finds an artifact that may be of biblical importance and offers it's carbon dating as evidence. always selective evidence for the creationist.

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Eh...more quasi-science. I'm sure those brain scan images are similar to an atheist's while meditating on their own grandeur.

This theology won't tell us anything about God.
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Eh...more quasi-science. I'm sure those brain scan images are similar to an atheist's while meditating on their own grandeur.

This theology won't tell us anything about God.



More importantly, for me, is that it won't tell us anything regarding the concept of sin. However, it is a contemporary effort in the scientific field.
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More importantly, for me, is that it won't tell us anything regarding the concept of sin.



Good point...That's all I'm really worried about right now. I have some pressing sin issues to deal with and this new theology isn't gonna help me.

I haven't been fruitful in months and have been unable to help anyone...but the following scripture explains why, and encourages me to get back on track.

2 Peter 1:5-11
For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins. Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to make your calling and election sure, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall. For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

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However, it is a contemporary effort in the scientific field.



Fair enough...

but I will still remain skeptical...I just don't trust these people for spiritual insight. I've been burned before.
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Eh...more quasi-science. I'm sure those brain scan images are similar to an atheist's while meditating on their own grandeur.

This theology won't tell us anything about God.



Maybe, but we won't know until we test our assumptions. I for one welcome serious scientific exploration into mans interaction with theology. Even if you are correct and this line of exploration doesn't reveal anything about God, it may well reveal something about humans and how we work. I know you don't underestimate the power of belief, if we can learn more about the biological effects of various states of mind then maybe we can harness the process for better positive outcomes.
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I was intrigued and encouraged by the endeavor of the researcher.



Me too (I knew we'd end up agreeing on something one day:P) I applaud the direction of study
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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Even if you are correct and this line of exploration doesn't reveal anything about God, it may well reveal something about humans and how we work.



Fine...just don't call it theology.:S

sorry to use the crazy face...but seriously...either you have faith or you don't.

this science will not bring atheists to believe in God...and that is one of my jobs/burdens....>:(

(edit..after hours at the DZ...)
Maybe I haven't made myself clear...

This song goes out to all my atheist brothers/sisters...I love you Sean & Jennefer/Jezebel/Guinevere...I miss you...
I will die for you...

...btw, this is gonna be a very bad day for me...12/18.

My child and his mother lost is like living in hell...sorry if i've been a little strange lately...I hope you can forgive me.

Jen...my stupid little sweetheart...why did you die...why did you leave me?

StUpiID GIrL


I'm only happy when it rains...

...now tell me...what does their neurotheology say about that?

they're just using our pain and confusion to sell books...just like all the others...

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He studies the relationship between the brain and religious experience, a field called neurotheology. And he's written a book....



ohhh...big fuckin' suprise...:S
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More importantly, for me, is that it won't tell us anything regarding the concept of sin.



Good point...That's all I'm really worried about right now. I have some pressing sin issues to deal with and this new theology isn't gonna help me.

I haven't been fruitful in months and have been unable to help anyone...but the following scripture explains why, and encourages me to get back on track.

2 Peter 1:5-11
For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins. Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to make your calling and election sure, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall. For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

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However, it is a contemporary effort in the scientific field.



Fair enough...

but I will still remain skeptical...I just don't trust these people for spiritual insight. I've been burned before.



We all go through spiritual doldrums. I am coming out of one now that has lasted over a year. It is common. The keys to overcoming are praying, fasting and, studying the Bible.

Seek the Lord and He will set you on the path of righteousness. Listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit. He will always confirm Scripture and draw you closer to Jesus.

When you come out the other side you will have a greater understanding. It is called spiritual maturation.

Send me a PM if you like.
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This theology won't tell us anything about God.



Maybe, but we won't know until we test our assumptions. I for one welcome serious scientific exploration into mans interaction with theology. Even if you are correct and this line of exploration doesn't reveal anything about God, it may well reveal something about humans and how we work. I know you don't underestimate the power of belief, if we can learn more about the biological effects of various states of mind then maybe we can harness the process for better positive outcomes.



I agree. In today's world I applaud any serious effort to understand spiritual truth. Truth will win out.

My spiritual journey began in graduate school with a study of the power of sorcery. Nine years later I was at the foot of the cross and met Jesus Christ.
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I was intrigued and encouraged by the endeavor of the researcher.



Me too (I knew we'd end up agreeing on something one day:P) I applaud the direction of study


+1
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Even if you are correct and this line of exploration doesn't reveal anything about God, it may well reveal something about humans and how we work.



Fine...just don't call it theology.:S

sorry to use the crazy face...but seriously...either you have faith or you don't.

this science will not bring atheists to believe in God...and that is one of my jobs/burdens....>:(

(edit..after hours at the DZ...)
Maybe I haven't made myself clear...

This song goes out to all my atheist brothers/sisters...I love you Sean & Jennefer/Jezebel/Guinevere...I miss you...
I will die for you...

...btw, this is gonna be a very bad day for me...12/18.

My child and his mother lost is like living in hell...sorry if i've been a little strange lately...I hope you can forgive me.

Jen...my stupid little sweetheart...why did you die...why did you leave me?

StUpiID GIrL


I'm only happy when it rains...

...now tell me...what does their neurotheology say about that?

they're just using our pain and confusion to sell books...just like all the others...

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He studies the relationship between the brain and religious experience, a field called neurotheology. And he's written a book....



ohhh...big fuckin' suprise...:S


This morning I am attending the funeral of a veteran. I will hold you in my prayers. I understand loss.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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My child and his mother lost is like living in hell...sorry if i've been a little strange lately...I hope you can forgive me.


Nothing to forgive Corey, it sounds like you're going through a very tough time, we can all relate to that. Its very difficult at the best of times but around Christmas with all the commercially enforced jollity it makes things doubly hard.

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Jen...my stupid little sweetheart...why did you die...why did you leave me?



Very sorry for your lost.

(The pm offer still stands if you change your mind.)

God Bless; Take care of yourself.
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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We all go through spiritual doldrums. I am coming out of one now that has lasted over a year. It is common. The keys to overcoming are praying, fasting and, studying the Bible.

Seek the Lord and He will set you on the path of righteousness. Listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit. He will always confirm Scripture and draw you closer to Jesus.



You may very well overcome it just as well by studying Dawkins, Leonardo da Vinci and Darwin.

But you chose to study the Bible. THat could be construed as rather narrow minded ;-)

I like the comment earlier "You are a good man, Ron"

I have no doubt that Ron is a good man. But I also know MANY men and women that are good people who are that not because of some spiritual guidance of any kind......myself included.

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We all go through spiritual doldrums. I am coming out of one now that has lasted over a year. It is common. The keys to overcoming are praying, fasting and, studying the Bible.

Seek the Lord and He will set you on the path of righteousness. Listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit. He will always confirm Scripture and draw you closer to Jesus.



You may very well overcome it just as well by studying Dawkins, Leonardo da Vinci and Darwin.

But you chose to study the Bible. THat could be construed as rather narrow minded ;-)

I like the comment earlier "You are a good man, Ron"

I have no doubt that Ron is a good man. But I also know MANY men and women that are good people who are that not because of some spiritual guidance of any kind......myself included.



You missed the point that Coreece is already a Christian. My message was intended to strengthen Christian faith from brother to brother. You are, unfortunately, outside the circle.

That is not say you are not good. You are, however, uninformed.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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