Andy9o8 0 #26 September 25, 2010 QuoteNixon should've gotten those votes. (But I won't get started on that. The name has been my cross to bear) Could be worse! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygypsie 2 #27 September 25, 2010 QuoteThere's a scientificaly biased poll in another thread reported from some where else. This is a un-scientificaly biased poll we create. Since all politics are local, let's see what our community thinks after a couple of hundred votes. Remember, you're voting for the WORST. Worst...in which way ? Self Agendas Special Interest Agendas Greed Immoral Unscrupulous Criminal Incompetent Power Mongar Control Foreign Policies Domestic Diplomacy Troops Pulled Out Troops Not Pulled Out Militaristic Shady Amateur Crooked Ignorant Loyal to his People Loyal to His Cause Worst Dressed Worst Speaker Worst Accent Worst Liar Worst Poise Worst Smirk Worst Allegience Worst Alliances Worst Appointees Worst Cabinet Aggression Degression Depression Recession Homeland Sanctity Homeland Security Worst End to His Presidency Worst Start to His Presidency...??? ...you're gonna need new software ! That's like asking whose the Best...my answer would be" haven't had one, yet !" and I remember: " I LIKE IKE " buttons, and I was in 1st grade homeroom with Mrs. Obenberger, when Kennedy's assassination came over the loud speaker & my Dad left for deer hunting that day ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #28 September 25, 2010 Quote Good poll. I vote Bush Jr. I won't even go into why. The proof is in the puddin" .... "fool me once,,,,shame on.........me... No..... on YOU... fool me twice.....uh... mmmmm doh!!... the thing IS... you CAN'T get fooled a.. a... again...uh mmmm.. " well i sure never voted for either Bush...... but the entire country got FOOLED... big time..... by them Both..... especially # 2... what a tragedy HE foisted on this country....all in some perverted effort to redeem himself in the eyes of his father...... jt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #29 September 25, 2010 Quote Vote for Worst President of Our Lifetime Why would you want to repete the mistake? You guys on the left already did . . . he won.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #30 September 25, 2010 Quote was in 1st grade homeroom with Mrs. Obenberger, when Kennedy's assassination came over the loud speaker & my Dad left for deer hunting that day ! By any chance did he have a Manlicher-Carcano? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #31 September 25, 2010 QuoteRemember, you're voting for the WORST. Anybody see the Are-We-Being-Governed-By-Assholes bit on The Daily Show a couple days ago? Truly sums up the current (and recent past) state of our leadership. Up and down the list - they are mostly assholes." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygypsie 2 #32 September 25, 2010 Quote Quote was in 1st grade homeroom with Mrs. Obenberger, when Kennedy's assassination came over the loud speaker & my Dad left for deer hunting that day ! By any chance did he have a Manlicher-Carcano? Hey genius...check your spelling before you confirm the arrogant fool you are... don't you mean Mannlicher-Carcano ? Aren't you the one who bitches when someone goes 'off thread' context ? I've noticed somethings about you. You seem to get aroused out of slamming chicks, or those who acknowledge they're new to the 'forums' gig, but as soon as anyone who raises confrontation with you / you're posts...you bumble up ! Reminds me of the bullied kid growing up, couldn't get a date, could only make water boy for the football team...grows up & decides to show everyone & puts on a cop uniform ! You probably figured you looked best in a suit & tie ( don't get me wrong, I have total respect for most cops & some attorneys, just not the ones who abuse it to their advantage ) Why is it you give no personal info., nor can receive messages per your profile, & as an attorney... you seem to have an excessive amount of free time ?!? Perhaps business isn't so good...or you looking for business ! Either way, I find you to be a total asshole...ASSHOLE ...as far as my Dad...he was a Kennedy man, though he did have CIA clearance til '85 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #33 September 25, 2010 Psssst see the satement about the rifle and then Andy was joking with you... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #34 September 25, 2010 Quote Quote Quote was in 1st grade homeroom with Mrs. Obenberger, when Kennedy's assassination came over the loud speaker & my Dad left for deer hunting that day ! By any chance did he have a Manlicher-Carcano? Hey genius...check your spelling before you confirm the arrogant fool you are... don't you mean Mannlicher-Carcano ? Aren't you the one who bitches when someone goes 'off thread' context ? I've noticed somethings about you. You seem to get aroused out of slamming chicks, or those who acknowledge they're new to the 'forums' gig, but as soon as anyone who raises confrontation with you / you're posts...you bumble up ! Reminds me of the bullied kid growing up, couldn't get a date, could only make water boy for the football team...grows up & decides to show everyone & puts on a cop uniform ! You probably figured you looked best in a suit & tie ( don't get me wrong, I have total respect for most cops & some attorneys, just not the ones who abuse it to their advantage ) Why is it you give no personal info., nor can receive messages per your profile, & as an attorney... you seem to have an excessive amount of free time ?!? Perhaps business isn't so good...or you looking for business ! Either way, I find you to be a total asshole...ASSHOLE ...as far as my Dad...he was a Kennedy man, though he did have CIA clearance til '85 I couldn't disagree with you more about Andy; don't see how you arrive at your conclusion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygypsie 2 #35 September 25, 2010 Quote Psssst see the satement about the rifle and then Andy was joking with you... ---------------------------------------------------------- giving it the benefit of doubt...I might have over reacted, & perhaps I was wrong...sorry And-Man I'm curious as to why do so many threads require 'homework'... Logic, knowledge, history lessons, life experiences, 1st hand info., current events, courtesy, respect, not enough stimulation for some folks ? I find them interesting & entertaining & up for debate; for the most part, but some just try too hard to be rude & irritating...I'm just saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #36 September 25, 2010 Quote Quote Psssst see the satement about the rifle and then Andy was joking with you... ---------------------------------------------------------- giving it the benefit of doubt...I might have over reacted, & perhaps I was wrong...sorry And-Man I'm curious as to why do so many threads require 'homework'... Logic, knowledge, history lessons, life experiences, 1st hand info., current events, courtesy, respect, not enough stimulation for some folks ? I find them interesting & entertaining & up for debate; for the most part, but some just try too hard to be rude & irritating...I'm just saying Homework???? Nah.. you only need to listen to Lush Rimjob and once the big bug brain has spoken..... his minions are here within minutes to irritate anyone with a brain. Oh I would never be rude or try to irritate all those poor little fella's pea's I come here for the entertainment value. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #37 September 25, 2010 Quote .... Quote Hey genius...check your spelling before you confirm the arrogant fool you are... don't you mean Mannlicher-Carcano ? Aren't you the one who bitches when someone goes 'off thread' context ? I've noticed somethings about you. You seem to get aroused out of slamming chicks, or those who acknowledge they're new to the 'forums' gig, but as soon as anyone who raises confrontation with you / you're posts...you bumble up ! Reminds me of the bullied kid growing up, couldn't get a date, could only make water boy for the football team...grows up & decides to show everyone & puts on a cop uniform ! You probably figured you looked best in a suit & tie Tongue ( don't get me wrong, I have total respect for most cops & some attorneys, just not the ones who abuse it to their advantage ) Why is it you give no personal info., nor can receive messages per your profile, & as an attorney... you seem to have an excessive amount of free time ?!? Perhaps business isn't so good...or you looking for business ! Either way, I find you to be a total asshole...ASSHOLE Crazy ...as far as my Dad...he was a Kennedy man, though he did have CIA clearance til '85 Shocked Dear Jesus, your post is lowest level. Full of aggression ...BTW: (Hopefully, JohnRich will not be that angry now! How could you dare to ask for a spell check??) dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #38 September 26, 2010 Quote Quote was in 1st grade homeroom with Mrs. Obenberger, when Kennedy's assassination came over the loud speaker & my Dad left for deer hunting that day ! By any chance did he have a Manlicher-Carcano? i don't appreciate that at all . you should delete that and apologise . you seem singularly cruel . i'll give you ALOT of credit for a retraction . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 4 #39 September 26, 2010 I think a better title would be... "of the century." And I would vote for Woodrow Wilson: Before he took office our armed forces were desegregated. When he took office, he re-segregated them. He also segregated the post office and was the first to require a photograph with applications, which made it easier to do so. He also fired all blacks holding federal positions, except for 1. I sure didn't learn that in high school... did anyone else? I've had to do quite a bit of reading to learn that. Oooooh and thats just the racism part... there is so much more about this evil man who was an enormous believer in eugenics. For one, he was jailing americans for speaking out against him. FDR did that too. For those who laughed when i said Teddy was a progressive... oh just you wait. Everything that Clinton, both Bush's, Carter and Obama did and are doing... they looked at the mistakes of the Wilson and FDR administrations. As well as started using the tactics of Saul Alinskey... has anyone here read Rules for Radicals? If not... its on amazon, definitely recommended, that is if you would like to understand their tactics, and end goals. "The ends justify the means." And one of his favorite tactics to destroy an opponent... "Criticize, marginalize, and demonize." They are all progressives... but for that to make sense, you have to understand what progressivism is. We'll get there... but first, I still have to post about the "religion of America." Till then... BSBD! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #40 September 26, 2010 QuoteI think a better title would be... "of the century." And I would vote for Woodrow Wilson: Before he took office our armed forces were desegregated. When he took office, he re-segregated them. He also segregated the post office and was the first to require a photograph with applications, which made it easier to do so. He also fired all blacks holding federal positions, except for 1. Yea, remember, the R's, who were great since 1861, were just turning into the pigs they are today and the D's were just finding their way. This was a partisan transitional era; Wilson was a moralist pig, at leat the moralists of that era. I'm not crazy about a lot of his BS either, at least he had the guts to raise taxes to pay for the war. QuoteI sure didn't learn that in high school... did anyone else? I've had to do quite a bit of reading to learn that. Yea, they taught that right after they taught us about how they American Indians freely gave us their country. QuoteOooooh and thats just the racism part... there is so much more about this evil man who was an enormous believer in eugenics. For one, he was jailing americans for speaking out against him. FDR did that too. I believe he did that, show where FDR did that. We can talk Hoover and the Bonus Army since your post started out to be educational and turned into a partisan rant. QuoteFor those who laughed when i said Teddy was a progressive... oh just you wait. Everything that Clinton, both Bush's, Carter and Obama did and are doing... they looked at the mistakes of the Wilson and FDR administrations. As well as started using the tactics of Saul Alinskey... has anyone here read Rules for Radicals? If not... its on amazon, definitely recommended, that is if you would like to understand their tactics, and end goals. Ok, you just said a lot of nothing; make a point. Quote"The ends justify the means." And one of his favorite tactics to destroy an opponent... "Criticize, marginalize, and demonize." They are all progressives... but for that to make sense, you have to understand what progressivism is. We'll get there... but first, I still have to post about the "religion of America." Till then... BSBD! You actually had me for a moment, I thought you had an intelligent post. My position is that somone is a dumb piece of shit if they claim one party is and always has been great. Not saying that's you, I see you as more a person who denounces progressives, which isn't a lot diff I guess, but isn't partisan at least. But the presidents who have been strongly beneficial are: - Washinton - Lincoln - FDR - Eisenhower - Clinton - Teddy Roosevelt - Too early, but Obama has flipped a total mess and made it bearable, we'll see where he takes it. Strongly detrimental: - Reagan - GWB - Pierce - Buchannan - Andrew Johnson - Nixon See, there's a mix of parties, as well, the parties switched philosophies in the 19teens to the 1920's. Rememebr, the R's used to be the liberals, the progressives, the D's the conservatives, but that was the 1800's, they switched in the 1920's - ish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 4 #41 September 26, 2010 You're right, we did fuck over the, Native Americans. My high school taught me all about Manifest Destiny, though they didn't talk about Andrew Jackson, nor explain how it is a perversion of Devine Providence. Remember that line the Founders wrote... "With a firm reliance on Devine Providence, we mutual pledge our lives, our fortunes and our SACRED HONOR." Had we followed our Founders, things would be different. It was when they started dying off that things really began to go bad... interesting comment. Though we never should have been in that war... Founders would have kept us neutral. "He Kept Us Out Of War" Yeah, for a month after he was re-elected. Oh and, Teddy was an R and a piece of shit. He was big into eugenics as well... he didn't like blacks either, or would you disagree? Well let me ask you this... what is your definition of Progressivism? Billvon, Quade. Would love for you to answer that question as well. Thats a good starting point... Because the majority of R's today... are not the R's like Lincoln... they are Progressives. Like that other piece of shit... John McCain. And as i have said before, I am for neither party or any party. I am a Constitutional Conservative. I stand with Lincoln and Fredrick Douglas... who criticized the constitution... before he read it. After he read it... he called it an Anti-slavery document. And when i get home, i can give you his direct quotes and many others. Wait till you read what Teddy said... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 1 #42 September 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote was in 1st grade homeroom with Mrs. Obenberger, when Kennedy's assassination came over the loud speaker & my Dad left for deer hunting that day ! By any chance did he have a Manlicher-Carcano? i don't appreciate that at all . you should delete that and apologise . you seem singularly cruel . i'll give you ALOT of credit for a retraction . What? has it not been long enough? Wit seems to be what this forum is all about. Take off the hair shirt. Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 4 #43 September 27, 2010 I'm waiting.... What is Progressivism? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #44 September 27, 2010 QuoteVote for Worst President of Our Lifetime ...um...the next one... we will never be united. You political nuts are worse than religious zealots.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #45 September 27, 2010 QuoteQuoteVote for Worst President of Our Lifetime ...um...the next one... we will never be united. You political nuts are worse than religious zealots. Not by a long shot. Political delusion constitutes a disease of denial, but religious zealotry is nothing short of psychosis. It may well be demonstrable nonsense when someone says "Vote for Farfoon! He will fix everything! A vote against Farfoon is a vote for badness!," but that is a balanced, reasonable standpoint in comparision to the core tenets of any popular Universal Religion. Most "believers" don't give it an awful lot of thought - which is fine, given that thinking is not their long suit. Those who delve into the nitty-gritty of a particular religion with total credulity have gone beyond suspension of disbelief. The old saw that neurotics build castles in the clouds and psychotics live in them applies nicely. There is, of course, the crowd for whom politics=religion, and they are singularly virulent. In this category I include both right-wing whackos and left-wing whackos; I have known all too many people for whom Marxism/Communism/Socialism had all the endearing qualities of devout religious conviction. The Greek saying that "the dose makes the poison" applies in general, but falls apart when dealing with fundamental poisons, whose presence has a negative effect starting with the first molecule. Politics is more like a generalized toxin, and religion is a fundamental toxin. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #46 September 27, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote was in 1st grade homeroom with Mrs. Obenberger, when Kennedy's assassination came over the loud speaker & my Dad left for deer hunting that day ! By any chance did he have a Manlicher-Carcano? i don't appreciate that at all . you should delete that and apologise . you seem singularly cruel . i'll give you ALOT of credit for a retraction . What? has it not been long enough? Wit seems to be what this forum is all about. Take off the hair shirt. maybe you're not as sick and cruel as your "wit" presents yourself to be ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lost_n_confuzd 0 #47 September 28, 2010 Obama almost has as many votes as GW in this poll. That's pretty bad considering he's not even through his first (and hopefully last) term. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #48 September 28, 2010 QuoteObama almost has as many votes as GW in this poll. That's pretty bad considering he's not even through his first (and hopefully last) term.well said , concur ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 4 #49 October 25, 2010 Lucky...? Progressivism...? Nothing further to say...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #50 October 26, 2010 LOL, only ten different, and that ten is made up in teh "off voters" Now if we can get the "whole" country to realise they both suck in many ways, ...we can focus on getting this country back to being a free country, not a new socialist nation.. And stop trying to let an admitted socialist take it over! Obama 58 / 39% Bush 43 68 / 45% Clinton 1 / 1% Bush 41 0 / 0% Reagan 3 / 2% Carter 14 / 9% Ford 0 / 0% Nixon 1 / 1% Johnson 1 / 1% Kennedy 1 / 1% Eisenhower 0 / 0% Truman 0 / 0% Roosevelt 3 / 2% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
