maxmadmax 8 #1 June 2, 2010 Manager says Citibank fired her for being too hot!!! NEW YORK – A Manhattan banker is suing Citbank, claiming she was fired because she was too good looking. According to The Village Voice, Debrahlee Lorenzana was fired from her job as a banker at a Citibank branch. Her bosses allegedly claimed it was due to her job performance. Lorenzana didn't buy it. She claims she was fired over her figure. Lorenzana tells the Voice that her bosses told her they couldn't concentrate on work because she was too distracting. She says she was ordered to stop wearing turtlenecks, pencil skirts, three-inch heels or fitted business suits. The 33-year-old single mother indicates it wasn't so much her wardrobe that bothered her male co-workers as it was her shapely figure. She says some of her female colleagues wore clothing that was much more revealing. Because Citibank allegedly made Lorenzana sign an arbitration clause as part of her employment, the lawsuit will be heard by an arbitrator, not a judge or jury. Citibank did not comment to the Voice about the lawsuit. Pics Here Don't go away mad....just go away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #2 June 2, 2010 I loved this comment on the story: "Ok, I do her once, would never hire her, cause she a slut! Like a $40 one for full, bet she don't even speak American..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #3 June 3, 2010 Yes, attractive people are just sooo repressed. Pfft. What an asshole.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #4 June 3, 2010 Anyone know where I can mail her an app? She absolutely MUST be able to type 20 words per minute.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #5 June 3, 2010 Quote Anyone know where I can mail her an app? She absolutely MUST be able to type 20 words per minute. Different words? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #6 June 3, 2010 Given that she apparently had some glamor shots ready to go, it's not impossible that this is an opportunity for some excellent free publicity. We'll see if this is followed by paid appearances on talk shows, reality TV shows and infomercials. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #7 June 3, 2010 The word "a" will do just fine.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #8 June 3, 2010 QuoteGiven that she apparently had some glamor shots ready to go, it's not impossible that this is an opportunity for some excellent free publicity. We'll see if this is followed by paid appearances on talk shows, reality TV shows and infomercials. Playboy might make an offer too.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #9 June 3, 2010 I'll run the pool... How long before she does a playboy shoot??-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #10 June 3, 2010 Quote Quote Given that she apparently had some glamor shots ready to go, it's not impossible that this is an opportunity for some excellent free publicity. We'll see if this is followed by paid appearances on talk shows, reality TV shows and infomercials. Playboy might make an offer too. Short term gig at the Spank Bank! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #11 June 3, 2010 QuoteGiven that she apparently had some glamor shots ready to go, it's not impossible that this is an opportunity for some excellent free publicity. We'll see if this is followed by paid appearances on talk shows, reality TV shows and infomercials. Jun 2, 2010 ... In preparation for the lawsuit, lawyer Jack Tuckner had a professional photographer shoot her in various work outfits in his office near ... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #12 June 3, 2010 Thats just my Jezebel...she's up to it again... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 June 3, 2010 She's pretty. So what? Citibank claim - Fired for job performance Her claim - Fired because she's distracting. If she is correct, her only real hope (with a reasonable jury that isn't swayed by emotion and no facts.... ) is that she kept a private running log/diary of any comments or harassment. Which I recommend to anyone I know that's having a hard time at work. As in most cases, I suspect there is an element of truth to both claims. But poor performance is likely the only real reason. There is so much regulation and paranoia about hiring and firing, most managers just can't do it unless there's an overriding and real reason. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #14 June 3, 2010 Hell, if I was employed at an office that was full of women looking like that, I'd never get any work done. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kawisixer01 0 #15 June 3, 2010 The claim is really just an indication of her apparent attitute, which my guess would be pretty shitty and full of herself. The old saying i've heard from HR people " I can train someone to do a job, but i can't train them not to be an asshole" sounds like it would apply here. She's probably used to the world kissing her ass and didn't get her way there. Nice looking..yes, but not as hot as she thinks. By the way that photog calls himself a professional? That is some pretty shitty photography work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #16 June 3, 2010 Quote Hell, if I was employed at an office that was full of women looking like that, I'd never get any work done. And then you should get fired. Not her. This being said, this has "celebrity wannabe" written all over it.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #17 June 3, 2010 QuoteQuote This being said, this has "celebrity wannabe" written all over it. I agree."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #18 June 3, 2010 Quote . . . with a reasonable jury that isn't swayed by emotion and no facts.... ) Arbitration contract - no jury.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #19 June 4, 2010 QuoteBecause Citibank allegedly made Lorenzana sign an arbitration clause as part of her employment, the lawsuit will be heard by an arbitrator, not a judge or jury. I can't believe that would be binding. If it is, it beautifully exemplay of the kind of toilet our labor laws are. Contracts mean little, a DZ assumption of liability means little. It's a nice thing for a lawyer to go to court with, it shows the plaintiff (estate or otherwise) was aware of dangers and decided to go anyway, but the fact is that YOU CANNOT SIGN AWAY YOUR RIGHT TO SUE. Of course per the article she didn't sign away, but she did limit her avenues. I just cannot believe that would be a sustainable contract, esp considering it was a 1-sided deal and that employees usually would not want to enter into that kind of agreeement. It's kinda like promising your first born for whatever furure consideration that you desperately need; it's a unilatteral contract, essentially a coerced agreement. Look at all the prenupts that are overthrown, a contract really means little, other than a specific performance type of contract like a purchase for something. Who knows, maybe NY is that fucked up. As for the issues, it's buffoonery to guess who's right, THAT'S WHAT A TRIAL IS FOR. Furthermore, is it binding arbitration or not? In Nazizona, civil suits up to 50K are deemed compulsory arb cases anyway, but either party can appeal from the arbiter's decision w/o cause and it's automatic. So it may be one of those and it may goto court upon appeal. Finally, if it is binding arb, somethimes these kinds of cases can fuck a defendant, altho they are seemingly more advantageous for them. Generally discovey is prohibited or limited in arb, that's what arb is for, to see what would likely happen if the case went to court. Admissions are usually wide open, so surprise witnesses can appear, depending upon NY rules of procedure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,396 #20 June 4, 2010 >I can't believe that would be binding. If it is, it beautifully exemplay >of the kind of toilet our labor laws are. Do you think DZ liability waivers should be binding? Or should students be able to successfully sue whenever they get hurt for any reason? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #21 June 4, 2010 QuoteI can't believe that would be binding. Why not-she signed it? Is it ever OK for someone to take responsibility or do you think that running to mommy is always the answer?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #22 June 4, 2010 Quote She's pretty. So what? Citibank claim - Fired for job performance Her claim - Fired because she's distracting. If she is correct, her only real hope (with a reasonable jury that isn't swayed by emotion and no facts.... ) is that she kept a private running log/diary of any comments or harassment [emphasis PLFXpert]. Which I recommend to anyone I know that's having a hard time at work. As in most cases, I suspect there is an element of truth to both claims. But poor performance is likely the only real reason. There is so much regulation and paranoia about hiring and firing, most managers just can't do it unless there's an overriding and real reason. +1Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #23 June 5, 2010 Quote>I can't believe that would be binding. If it is, it beautifully exemplay >of the kind of toilet our labor laws are. Do you think DZ liability waivers should be binding? Or should students be able to successfully sue whenever they get hurt for any reason? Waivers = assumption of risk. A student is assuming risk with the perception that the DZ: - Maintains the gear - Ensures instructors are certified and sober - Ensures the pilots are legal and trained - sober too - Has a general attitude of responsibility If those are met, the assumption of risk should stand, if any are breached, the assumption dies. You need to be able to bring the action before a court to discover evidence. You should always have the right to sue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #24 June 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteI can't believe that would be binding. Why not-she signed it? Is it ever OK for someone to take responsibility or do you think that running to mommy is always the answer? If we were side by side I doubt I would be the one running for mommy. Better get you mani updated. You know zip about contract law, in fact, you don't know the diff between contract law and tort law or that there is a diff and what it is. If she signed it and it was later discovered the DZO and TM's were smnoking dope between jumps, what of it? It should still stand? It takes a court action to compell people to disclose and to perform discovery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,396 #25 June 5, 2010 >You should always have the right to sue. So it sounds like you do oppose any waiver that gives up that right. 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turtlespeed 212 #18 June 3, 2010 Quote . . . with a reasonable jury that isn't swayed by emotion and no facts.... ) Arbitration contract - no jury.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #19 June 4, 2010 QuoteBecause Citibank allegedly made Lorenzana sign an arbitration clause as part of her employment, the lawsuit will be heard by an arbitrator, not a judge or jury. I can't believe that would be binding. If it is, it beautifully exemplay of the kind of toilet our labor laws are. Contracts mean little, a DZ assumption of liability means little. It's a nice thing for a lawyer to go to court with, it shows the plaintiff (estate or otherwise) was aware of dangers and decided to go anyway, but the fact is that YOU CANNOT SIGN AWAY YOUR RIGHT TO SUE. Of course per the article she didn't sign away, but she did limit her avenues. I just cannot believe that would be a sustainable contract, esp considering it was a 1-sided deal and that employees usually would not want to enter into that kind of agreeement. It's kinda like promising your first born for whatever furure consideration that you desperately need; it's a unilatteral contract, essentially a coerced agreement. Look at all the prenupts that are overthrown, a contract really means little, other than a specific performance type of contract like a purchase for something. Who knows, maybe NY is that fucked up. As for the issues, it's buffoonery to guess who's right, THAT'S WHAT A TRIAL IS FOR. Furthermore, is it binding arbitration or not? In Nazizona, civil suits up to 50K are deemed compulsory arb cases anyway, but either party can appeal from the arbiter's decision w/o cause and it's automatic. So it may be one of those and it may goto court upon appeal. Finally, if it is binding arb, somethimes these kinds of cases can fuck a defendant, altho they are seemingly more advantageous for them. Generally discovey is prohibited or limited in arb, that's what arb is for, to see what would likely happen if the case went to court. Admissions are usually wide open, so surprise witnesses can appear, depending upon NY rules of procedure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #20 June 4, 2010 >I can't believe that would be binding. If it is, it beautifully exemplay >of the kind of toilet our labor laws are. Do you think DZ liability waivers should be binding? Or should students be able to successfully sue whenever they get hurt for any reason? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #21 June 4, 2010 QuoteI can't believe that would be binding. Why not-she signed it? Is it ever OK for someone to take responsibility or do you think that running to mommy is always the answer?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #22 June 4, 2010 Quote She's pretty. So what? Citibank claim - Fired for job performance Her claim - Fired because she's distracting. If she is correct, her only real hope (with a reasonable jury that isn't swayed by emotion and no facts.... ) is that she kept a private running log/diary of any comments or harassment [emphasis PLFXpert]. Which I recommend to anyone I know that's having a hard time at work. As in most cases, I suspect there is an element of truth to both claims. But poor performance is likely the only real reason. There is so much regulation and paranoia about hiring and firing, most managers just can't do it unless there's an overriding and real reason. +1Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #23 June 5, 2010 Quote>I can't believe that would be binding. If it is, it beautifully exemplay >of the kind of toilet our labor laws are. Do you think DZ liability waivers should be binding? Or should students be able to successfully sue whenever they get hurt for any reason? Waivers = assumption of risk. A student is assuming risk with the perception that the DZ: - Maintains the gear - Ensures instructors are certified and sober - Ensures the pilots are legal and trained - sober too - Has a general attitude of responsibility If those are met, the assumption of risk should stand, if any are breached, the assumption dies. You need to be able to bring the action before a court to discover evidence. You should always have the right to sue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #24 June 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteI can't believe that would be binding. Why not-she signed it? Is it ever OK for someone to take responsibility or do you think that running to mommy is always the answer? If we were side by side I doubt I would be the one running for mommy. Better get you mani updated. You know zip about contract law, in fact, you don't know the diff between contract law and tort law or that there is a diff and what it is. If she signed it and it was later discovered the DZO and TM's were smnoking dope between jumps, what of it? It should still stand? It takes a court action to compell people to disclose and to perform discovery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #25 June 5, 2010 >You should always have the right to sue. So it sounds like you do oppose any waiver that gives up that right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
