redlegphi 0 #26 May 30, 2010 QuoteSomething I don't understand... all these illegals, along with white protestors, chant their displeasure with the laws in Spanish and wave Mexican flags!? Seems to me, if, they want to stay in the U.S., they'd wave U.S. flags and shout in English. This tells me, they want it both ways and don't want to learn English or support OUR flag. Chuck And what's up with those damn Irish-Americans waving Irish flags and dancing around dressed up like leprechauns on the 17th of March every year. And don't even get me started on the Italians! Amirite?!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #27 May 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteSomething I don't understand... all these illegals, along with white protestors, chant their displeasure with the laws in Spanish and wave Mexican flags!? Seems to me, if, they want to stay in the U.S., they'd wave U.S. flags and shout in English. This tells me, they want it both ways and don't want to learn English or support OUR flag. Chuck And what's up with those damn Irish-Americans waving Irish flags and dancing around dressed up like leprechauns on the 17th of March every year. And don't even get me started on the Italians! Amirite?!? I guess, I just don't understand defending and wanting to protect 'law-breakers'. Seems to me, those who you mentioned are Americans... U.s. citizens. To me, comparing illegals with legals is like apples and oranges. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,798 #28 May 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteSomething I don't understand... all these illegals, along with white protestors, chant their displeasure with the laws in Spanish and wave Mexican flags!? Seems to me, if, they want to stay in the U.S., they'd wave U.S. flags and shout in English. This tells me, they want it both ways and don't want to learn English or support OUR flag. Chuck And what's up with those damn Irish-Americans waving Irish flags and dancing around dressed up like leprechauns on the 17th of March every year. And don't even get me started on the Italians! Amirite?!? I guess, I just don't understand defending and wanting to protect 'law-breakers'. Seems to me, those who you mentioned are Americans... U.s. citizens. To me, comparing illegals with legals is like apples and oranges. Chuck There are quite a lot of illegal Irish in the USA as it happens. So his analogy was a good one. An then there are the Poles on Pulaski Day. Lots of illegal Poles here too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #29 May 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSomething I don't understand... all these illegals, along with white protestors, chant their displeasure with the laws in Spanish and wave Mexican flags!? Seems to me, if, they want to stay in the U.S., they'd wave U.S. flags and shout in English. This tells me, they want it both ways and don't want to learn English or support OUR flag. Chuck And what's up with those damn Irish-Americans waving Irish flags and dancing around dressed up like leprechauns on the 17th of March every year. And don't even get me started on the Italians! Amirite?!? I guess, I just don't understand defending and wanting to protect 'law-breakers'. Seems to me, those who you mentioned are Americans... U.s. citizens. To me, comparing illegals with legals is like apples and oranges. Chuck There are quite a lot of illegal Irish in the USA as it happens. So his analogy was a good one. An then there are the Poles on Pulaski Day. Lots of illegal Poles here too. What threw me was, he said, 'Irish-Americans'. that would lead me to believe he was referring to Irish-American 'citizens'. I'm quite certain there are people from all over the world, here illegally. What keeps me confused is the way folks group legals with illegals. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #30 June 1, 2010 QuoteWhat threw me was, he said, 'Irish-Americans'. that would lead me to believe he was referring to Irish-American 'citizens'. I'm quite certain there are people from all over the world, here illegally. What keeps me confused is the way folks group legals with illegals. Which is exactly what the Arizona "papers please" law does. There are many Mexican American citizens who want to preserve their culture and speak Spanish and wave Mexican flags and celebrate Mexican holidays on occasion. They should have every right to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj123 0 #31 June 1, 2010 Quote Enforce the existing laws on immigration.... Put those who benefit the most from the illegals..... the people who hire them... where they belong.. JAIL... not the boardrooms across America.Quote I snipped a lot ... While I agree with the anti illegal immigration crouwd ,just as I agree with the anti littering crowd, the question on both matters always comes down to how do you enforce the law? The war on drugs is ongoing and even with the most zealous attempts by law enforcement and government agencies I can walk down to the corner right now and score . So I ask you ,Amazon, how do you propose we stop the illegals without stepping on the Rights of Citizens? BlueSkies, dj123 Enforcement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #32 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuote Enforce the existing laws on immigration.... Put those who benefit the most from the illegals..... the people who hire them... where they belong.. JAIL... not the boardrooms across America.Quote I snipped a lot ... While I agree with the anti illegal immigration crouwd ,just as I agree with the anti littering crowd, the question on both matters always comes down to how do you enforce the law? The war on drugs is ongoing and even with the most zealous attempts by law enforcement and government agencies I can walk down to the corner right now and score . So I ask you ,Amazon, how do you propose we stop the illegals without stepping on the Rights of Citizens? BlueSkies, dj123 Enforcement Delegation is a basic premise of management.... most companies have HR departments, the management needs to make real changes in those areas... they better make damn sure who the hell it is they are hiring. Bogus little printed SS cards do not make for very good ID. Fake drivers licenses do not make for very good ID. Social Security and the FEDs need to step up for better ID. I really do like my PASSPORT CARD... that thing would be a bitch to counterfeit. There are also enhanced ID and DL cards that can be had after providing valid birth certs as well as other documentation. Most people have to produce a hell of a lot of documentation to get valid ID in this country. Enforcement can start with LONG jail sentences for those forgers who are providing fake docs. It would be VERY easy to hurt those who benefit financially with a few well placed stings. I am all for free rides to the border for those who are caught here illegally, Put them on a list that denies them EVER being allowed into the USA. If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dj123 0 #33 June 1, 2010 [reply If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Yeah!!! Great Idea!!!!! That should stop 'em!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #34 June 1, 2010 Quote [reply If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Yeah!!! Great Idea!!!!! That should stop 'em!! Hey.. baby steps........ Start prosecuting those who hire illegals....and handing out REAL jail time to them. Impliment the guest worker programs thru the unemployment departments across the country, they are the people in charge of helping people find jobs in this country. Many employers are in contact with them DAILY trying to find qualified workers. I would even offer that free ride to their home country to those who voluntarily come in and sign up for the guest worker program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dj123 0 #35 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuote[reply If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Yeah!!! Great Idea!!!!! That should stop 'em!! Hey.. baby steps........ Start prosecuting those who hire illegals....and handing out REAL jail time to them.Quote I don't like illegals here anymore than you do but the reality is to even enforce the laws we have on the books is nearly economically impposible. Jail time sounds swell ,but how much would it cost each state to incarcerate 80% of their construction contractors? Have you done the math? Good luck on your quest ,Amazon. Report back next year on your effectivenesss. Blue Skies, dj123 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,676 #36 June 1, 2010 >If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they >will be forever banned from coming here legally. Given that those are the very people who have proven that they don't have much interest in coming here legally I don't know what that would do, if anything. Indeed, it would pretty much require them to enter illegally if they ever want to come back - and they've already proven they know how to do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pirana 0 #37 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteSomething I don't understand... all these illegals, along with white protestors, chant their displeasure with the laws in Spanish and wave Mexican flags!? Seems to me, if, they want to stay in the U.S., they'd wave U.S. flags and shout in English. This tells me, they want it both ways and don't want to learn English or support OUR flag. Chuck And what's up with those damn Irish-Americans waving Irish flags and dancing around dressed up like leprechauns on the 17th of March every year. And don't even get me started on the Italians! Amirite?!? You would be right if there were 10 million Irish in the country illegally." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bluetwo 0 #38 June 1, 2010 Illegal immigrants suck._______________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #39 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhat threw me was, he said, 'Irish-Americans'. that would lead me to believe he was referring to Irish-American 'citizens'. I'm quite certain there are people from all over the world, here illegally. What keeps me confused is the way folks group legals with illegals. Which is exactly what the Arizona "papers please" law does. There are many Mexican American citizens who want to preserve their culture and speak Spanish and wave Mexican flags and celebrate Mexican holidays on occasion. They should have every right to do so. I couldn't agree with you more! Once again, as long as they are here LEGALLY!!! As far as the laws go, if they are here illegally, they really don't have right one. Other than that, I think that folks who come here legally should retain their heritage and celebrate their holidays and our holidays too. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #40 June 2, 2010 Knowing to look at your feet, answer with "si commandante" or "no commandante," carrying folded $20 bills, and using the phrase "por tu ninos" is the best way to have an easy encounter with Mexican badge bearers. It ain't right, but it makes the world go round. When in meh-hee-kho...witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 0 #41 June 2, 2010 QuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #42 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #43 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #44 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." I don't believe in amnesty. Should an illegal gat caught, even after several years, either send them to their native country or fine them severely. If, they skip the country without paying the fine, they don't get back in this country. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #45 June 2, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Illegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." I don't believe in amnesty. Should an illegal gat caught, even after several years, either send them to their native country or fine them severely. If, they skip the country without paying the fine, they don't get back in this country. Chuck That's fine, but any children born while they were in the U.S. are natural born citizens regardless of their ancestors' status. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #46 June 2, 2010 QuoteThat's fine, but any children born while they were in the U.S. are natural born citizens regardless of their ancestors' status. I wonder how many OTHER countries have a policy like that???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #47 June 2, 2010 If, I'm not mistaken, the mother still be deported, take the child with her and may apply for citizenship later. Just because the child is born here doesn't automatically make the mother a citizen. The child being a U.S. citizen does help the mother's case. Does it work that way in Mexico or any other country? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #48 June 2, 2010 Quote If, I'm not mistaken, the mother still be deported, take the child with her and may apply for citizenship later. Just because the child is born here doesn't automatically make the mother a citizen. The child being a U.S. citizen does help the mother's case. Does it work that way in Mexico or any other country? Chuck I didn't mean that the mother should become a citizen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #49 June 2, 2010 Gotcha'! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #50 June 3, 2010 QuoteGotcha'! Chuck What's your point? 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Amazon 7 #32 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuote Enforce the existing laws on immigration.... Put those who benefit the most from the illegals..... the people who hire them... where they belong.. JAIL... not the boardrooms across America.Quote I snipped a lot ... While I agree with the anti illegal immigration crouwd ,just as I agree with the anti littering crowd, the question on both matters always comes down to how do you enforce the law? The war on drugs is ongoing and even with the most zealous attempts by law enforcement and government agencies I can walk down to the corner right now and score . So I ask you ,Amazon, how do you propose we stop the illegals without stepping on the Rights of Citizens? BlueSkies, dj123 Enforcement Delegation is a basic premise of management.... most companies have HR departments, the management needs to make real changes in those areas... they better make damn sure who the hell it is they are hiring. Bogus little printed SS cards do not make for very good ID. Fake drivers licenses do not make for very good ID. Social Security and the FEDs need to step up for better ID. I really do like my PASSPORT CARD... that thing would be a bitch to counterfeit. There are also enhanced ID and DL cards that can be had after providing valid birth certs as well as other documentation. Most people have to produce a hell of a lot of documentation to get valid ID in this country. Enforcement can start with LONG jail sentences for those forgers who are providing fake docs. It would be VERY easy to hurt those who benefit financially with a few well placed stings. I am all for free rides to the border for those who are caught here illegally, Put them on a list that denies them EVER being allowed into the USA. If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dj123 0 #33 June 1, 2010 [reply If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Yeah!!! Great Idea!!!!! That should stop 'em!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #34 June 1, 2010 Quote [reply If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Yeah!!! Great Idea!!!!! That should stop 'em!! Hey.. baby steps........ Start prosecuting those who hire illegals....and handing out REAL jail time to them. Impliment the guest worker programs thru the unemployment departments across the country, they are the people in charge of helping people find jobs in this country. Many employers are in contact with them DAILY trying to find qualified workers. I would even offer that free ride to their home country to those who voluntarily come in and sign up for the guest worker program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dj123 0 #35 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuote[reply If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Yeah!!! Great Idea!!!!! That should stop 'em!! Hey.. baby steps........ Start prosecuting those who hire illegals....and handing out REAL jail time to them.Quote I don't like illegals here anymore than you do but the reality is to even enforce the laws we have on the books is nearly economically impposible. Jail time sounds swell ,but how much would it cost each state to incarcerate 80% of their construction contractors? Have you done the math? Good luck on your quest ,Amazon. Report back next year on your effectivenesss. Blue Skies, dj123 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,676 #36 June 1, 2010 >If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they >will be forever banned from coming here legally. Given that those are the very people who have proven that they don't have much interest in coming here legally I don't know what that would do, if anything. Indeed, it would pretty much require them to enter illegally if they ever want to come back - and they've already proven they know how to do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pirana 0 #37 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteSomething I don't understand... all these illegals, along with white protestors, chant their displeasure with the laws in Spanish and wave Mexican flags!? Seems to me, if, they want to stay in the U.S., they'd wave U.S. flags and shout in English. This tells me, they want it both ways and don't want to learn English or support OUR flag. Chuck And what's up with those damn Irish-Americans waving Irish flags and dancing around dressed up like leprechauns on the 17th of March every year. And don't even get me started on the Italians! Amirite?!? You would be right if there were 10 million Irish in the country illegally." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bluetwo 0 #38 June 1, 2010 Illegal immigrants suck._______________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #39 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhat threw me was, he said, 'Irish-Americans'. that would lead me to believe he was referring to Irish-American 'citizens'. I'm quite certain there are people from all over the world, here illegally. What keeps me confused is the way folks group legals with illegals. Which is exactly what the Arizona "papers please" law does. There are many Mexican American citizens who want to preserve their culture and speak Spanish and wave Mexican flags and celebrate Mexican holidays on occasion. They should have every right to do so. I couldn't agree with you more! Once again, as long as they are here LEGALLY!!! As far as the laws go, if they are here illegally, they really don't have right one. Other than that, I think that folks who come here legally should retain their heritage and celebrate their holidays and our holidays too. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #40 June 2, 2010 Knowing to look at your feet, answer with "si commandante" or "no commandante," carrying folded $20 bills, and using the phrase "por tu ninos" is the best way to have an easy encounter with Mexican badge bearers. It ain't right, but it makes the world go round. When in meh-hee-kho...witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 0 #41 June 2, 2010 QuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #42 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #43 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #44 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." I don't believe in amnesty. Should an illegal gat caught, even after several years, either send them to their native country or fine them severely. If, they skip the country without paying the fine, they don't get back in this country. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #45 June 2, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Illegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." I don't believe in amnesty. Should an illegal gat caught, even after several years, either send them to their native country or fine them severely. If, they skip the country without paying the fine, they don't get back in this country. Chuck That's fine, but any children born while they were in the U.S. are natural born citizens regardless of their ancestors' status. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #46 June 2, 2010 QuoteThat's fine, but any children born while they were in the U.S. are natural born citizens regardless of their ancestors' status. I wonder how many OTHER countries have a policy like that???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #47 June 2, 2010 If, I'm not mistaken, the mother still be deported, take the child with her and may apply for citizenship later. Just because the child is born here doesn't automatically make the mother a citizen. The child being a U.S. citizen does help the mother's case. Does it work that way in Mexico or any other country? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #48 June 2, 2010 Quote If, I'm not mistaken, the mother still be deported, take the child with her and may apply for citizenship later. Just because the child is born here doesn't automatically make the mother a citizen. The child being a U.S. citizen does help the mother's case. Does it work that way in Mexico or any other country? Chuck I didn't mean that the mother should become a citizen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #49 June 2, 2010 Gotcha'! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #50 June 3, 2010 QuoteGotcha'! Chuck What's your point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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dj123 0 #33 June 1, 2010 [reply If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Yeah!!! Great Idea!!!!! That should stop 'em!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #34 June 1, 2010 Quote [reply If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Yeah!!! Great Idea!!!!! That should stop 'em!! Hey.. baby steps........ Start prosecuting those who hire illegals....and handing out REAL jail time to them. Impliment the guest worker programs thru the unemployment departments across the country, they are the people in charge of helping people find jobs in this country. Many employers are in contact with them DAILY trying to find qualified workers. I would even offer that free ride to their home country to those who voluntarily come in and sign up for the guest worker program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj123 0 #35 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuote[reply If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they will be forever banned from coming here legally. Yeah!!! Great Idea!!!!! That should stop 'em!! Hey.. baby steps........ Start prosecuting those who hire illegals....and handing out REAL jail time to them.Quote I don't like illegals here anymore than you do but the reality is to even enforce the laws we have on the books is nearly economically impposible. Jail time sounds swell ,but how much would it cost each state to incarcerate 80% of their construction contractors? Have you done the math? Good luck on your quest ,Amazon. Report back next year on your effectivenesss. Blue Skies, dj123 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,676 #36 June 1, 2010 >If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they >will be forever banned from coming here legally. Given that those are the very people who have proven that they don't have much interest in coming here legally I don't know what that would do, if anything. Indeed, it would pretty much require them to enter illegally if they ever want to come back - and they've already proven they know how to do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pirana 0 #37 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteSomething I don't understand... all these illegals, along with white protestors, chant their displeasure with the laws in Spanish and wave Mexican flags!? Seems to me, if, they want to stay in the U.S., they'd wave U.S. flags and shout in English. This tells me, they want it both ways and don't want to learn English or support OUR flag. Chuck And what's up with those damn Irish-Americans waving Irish flags and dancing around dressed up like leprechauns on the 17th of March every year. And don't even get me started on the Italians! Amirite?!? You would be right if there were 10 million Irish in the country illegally." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bluetwo 0 #38 June 1, 2010 Illegal immigrants suck._______________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #39 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhat threw me was, he said, 'Irish-Americans'. that would lead me to believe he was referring to Irish-American 'citizens'. I'm quite certain there are people from all over the world, here illegally. What keeps me confused is the way folks group legals with illegals. Which is exactly what the Arizona "papers please" law does. There are many Mexican American citizens who want to preserve their culture and speak Spanish and wave Mexican flags and celebrate Mexican holidays on occasion. They should have every right to do so. I couldn't agree with you more! Once again, as long as they are here LEGALLY!!! As far as the laws go, if they are here illegally, they really don't have right one. Other than that, I think that folks who come here legally should retain their heritage and celebrate their holidays and our holidays too. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #40 June 2, 2010 Knowing to look at your feet, answer with "si commandante" or "no commandante," carrying folded $20 bills, and using the phrase "por tu ninos" is the best way to have an easy encounter with Mexican badge bearers. It ain't right, but it makes the world go round. When in meh-hee-kho...witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 0 #41 June 2, 2010 QuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #42 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #43 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #44 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." I don't believe in amnesty. Should an illegal gat caught, even after several years, either send them to their native country or fine them severely. If, they skip the country without paying the fine, they don't get back in this country. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #45 June 2, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Illegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." I don't believe in amnesty. Should an illegal gat caught, even after several years, either send them to their native country or fine them severely. If, they skip the country without paying the fine, they don't get back in this country. Chuck That's fine, but any children born while they were in the U.S. are natural born citizens regardless of their ancestors' status. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #46 June 2, 2010 QuoteThat's fine, but any children born while they were in the U.S. are natural born citizens regardless of their ancestors' status. I wonder how many OTHER countries have a policy like that???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #47 June 2, 2010 If, I'm not mistaken, the mother still be deported, take the child with her and may apply for citizenship later. Just because the child is born here doesn't automatically make the mother a citizen. The child being a U.S. citizen does help the mother's case. Does it work that way in Mexico or any other country? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #48 June 2, 2010 Quote If, I'm not mistaken, the mother still be deported, take the child with her and may apply for citizenship later. Just because the child is born here doesn't automatically make the mother a citizen. The child being a U.S. citizen does help the mother's case. Does it work that way in Mexico or any other country? Chuck I didn't mean that the mother should become a citizen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #49 June 2, 2010 Gotcha'! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #50 June 3, 2010 QuoteGotcha'! Chuck What's your point? 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billvon 2,676 #36 June 1, 2010 >If those who are here illegally do stay... let them know if caught they >will be forever banned from coming here legally. Given that those are the very people who have proven that they don't have much interest in coming here legally I don't know what that would do, if anything. Indeed, it would pretty much require them to enter illegally if they ever want to come back - and they've already proven they know how to do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #37 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteSomething I don't understand... all these illegals, along with white protestors, chant their displeasure with the laws in Spanish and wave Mexican flags!? Seems to me, if, they want to stay in the U.S., they'd wave U.S. flags and shout in English. This tells me, they want it both ways and don't want to learn English or support OUR flag. Chuck And what's up with those damn Irish-Americans waving Irish flags and dancing around dressed up like leprechauns on the 17th of March every year. And don't even get me started on the Italians! Amirite?!? You would be right if there were 10 million Irish in the country illegally." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluetwo 0 #38 June 1, 2010 Illegal immigrants suck._______________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #39 June 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhat threw me was, he said, 'Irish-Americans'. that would lead me to believe he was referring to Irish-American 'citizens'. I'm quite certain there are people from all over the world, here illegally. What keeps me confused is the way folks group legals with illegals. Which is exactly what the Arizona "papers please" law does. There are many Mexican American citizens who want to preserve their culture and speak Spanish and wave Mexican flags and celebrate Mexican holidays on occasion. They should have every right to do so. I couldn't agree with you more! Once again, as long as they are here LEGALLY!!! As far as the laws go, if they are here illegally, they really don't have right one. Other than that, I think that folks who come here legally should retain their heritage and celebrate their holidays and our holidays too. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #40 June 2, 2010 Knowing to look at your feet, answer with "si commandante" or "no commandante," carrying folded $20 bills, and using the phrase "por tu ninos" is the best way to have an easy encounter with Mexican badge bearers. It ain't right, but it makes the world go round. When in meh-hee-kho...witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #41 June 2, 2010 QuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #42 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #43 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #44 June 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIllegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." I don't believe in amnesty. Should an illegal gat caught, even after several years, either send them to their native country or fine them severely. If, they skip the country without paying the fine, they don't get back in this country. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #45 June 2, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Illegal immigrants suck. Can you say that in Lakota? Not that old grind? You're about 150-yrs. too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed. Chuck Exactly. The U.S. born children of illegal immigrants say, "too late and we had nothin' to do with it. All we can deal with is what is happening today. The past has passed." I don't believe in amnesty. Should an illegal gat caught, even after several years, either send them to their native country or fine them severely. If, they skip the country without paying the fine, they don't get back in this country. Chuck That's fine, but any children born while they were in the U.S. are natural born citizens regardless of their ancestors' status. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #46 June 2, 2010 QuoteThat's fine, but any children born while they were in the U.S. are natural born citizens regardless of their ancestors' status. I wonder how many OTHER countries have a policy like that???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #47 June 2, 2010 If, I'm not mistaken, the mother still be deported, take the child with her and may apply for citizenship later. Just because the child is born here doesn't automatically make the mother a citizen. The child being a U.S. citizen does help the mother's case. Does it work that way in Mexico or any other country? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #48 June 2, 2010 Quote If, I'm not mistaken, the mother still be deported, take the child with her and may apply for citizenship later. Just because the child is born here doesn't automatically make the mother a citizen. The child being a U.S. citizen does help the mother's case. Does it work that way in Mexico or any other country? Chuck I didn't mean that the mother should become a citizen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #50 June 3, 2010 QuoteGotcha'! Chuck What's your point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
