quade 3 #26 May 19, 2010 QuoteThe reference to terrorism was there, obviously, but it was just as obvious to me that it wasn't to be considered as one of the reasons for his comments. It was an attempt to justify the law. To plant the seed, "yes, this is one of the reasons it's a good idea." That's pretty much the only reason that type of sentence construction is used during any debate. Otherwise, why "not mention" or "not talk" about something?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #27 May 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteThe reference to terrorism was there, obviously, but it was just as obvious to me that it wasn't to be considered as one of the reasons for his comments. It was an attempt to justify the law. To plant the seed, "yes, this is one of the reasons it's a good idea." That's pretty much the only reason that type of sentence construction is used during any debate. Otherwise, why "not mention" or "not talk" about something? The one thing he disqualified is the only one that you recognized. " I am not even talking about terrorism." I understood that as, even though it would be a viable option in and of it's self, It has nothing to do with my argument at this time.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #28 May 19, 2010 I am overjoyed to not be living in the state of California anymore. It gets a bit tiresome to continually be surrounded by people who's bodies live in the United States of America, but brains seem to live somewhere past Pluto. The whole state has "Jumped the Shark".---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #29 May 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe reference to terrorism was there, obviously, but it was just as obvious to me that it wasn't to be considered as one of the reasons for his comments. It was an attempt to justify the law. To plant the seed, "yes, this is one of the reasons it's a good idea." That's pretty much the only reason that type of sentence construction is used during any debate. Otherwise, why "not mention" or "not talk" about something? The one thing he disqualified is the only one that you recognized. " I am not even talking about terrorism." I understood that as, even though it would be a viable option in and of it's self, It has nothing to do with my argument at this time. I have a feeling the concept of subtext eludes you.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 May 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe reference to terrorism was there, obviously, but it was just as obvious to me that it wasn't to be considered as one of the reasons for his comments. It was an attempt to justify the law. To plant the seed, "yes, this is one of the reasons it's a good idea." That's pretty much the only reason that type of sentence construction is used during any debate. Otherwise, why "not mention" or "not talk" about something? The one thing he disqualified is the only one that you recognized. " I am not even talking about terrorism." I understood that as, even though it would be a viable option in and of it's self, It has nothing to do with my argument at this time. I have a feeling the concept of subtext eludes you. I have a feeling the concept of plain English eludes you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #31 May 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteI agree that everyone should get the opportunity to live here in the U.S. if they want.....but we have to much at stake know days to just let people roam across the borders. Great! Secure the border and deal with terrorists. However, that's not actually what this bill is about; is it? Show me in the text of the bill what you think it's about. You're hung up on a race card here methinks.....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #32 May 19, 2010 QuoteI have a feeling the concept of plain English eludes you. If a person thinks words and sentence construction only ever means what it literally says, then perhaps that does explain their simplistic view of the world. My personal feeling is this is perhaps the case with as much as 33% of the population. To them, "The Old Man and the Sea" is about a guy that goes fishing and "Moby Dick" is just a story about a whale.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #33 May 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe reference to terrorism was there, obviously, but it was just as obvious to me that it wasn't to be considered as one of the reasons for his comments. It was an attempt to justify the law. To plant the seed, "yes, this is one of the reasons it's a good idea." That's pretty much the only reason that type of sentence construction is used during any debate. Otherwise, why "not mention" or "not talk" about something? The one thing he disqualified is the only one that you recognized. " I am not even talking about terrorism." I understood that as, even though it would be a viable option in and of it's self, It has nothing to do with my argument at this time. I have a feeling the concept of subtext eludes you. No - it just doesn't really apply here. Even though it is a viable option and more than good enough to close the borders on it's own, terrorism was not included in his reasoning.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #34 May 19, 2010 Quote If a person thinks words and sentence construction only ever means what it literally says, then perhaps that does explain their simplistic view of the world. Heaven fucking forbid that someones says what they mean and stand behind it without hiding behind semantic "wiggle room" I get the feeling my return will be short lived You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #35 May 20, 2010 QuoteHeaven fucking forbid that someones says what they mean and stand behind it without hiding behind semantic "wiggle room" Are you sure? Do you believe in God? Do you believe EVERY word in the Bible means exactly what it says? In plain speech and without subtext or allegory? Without any ambiguity? Yes, heaven forbid indeed.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #36 May 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhat part of "I am NOT even talking about terrorism" gave you the difficulty? That's a bit like when a person says, "Not to mention, you're an idiot." Yes, he really IS mentioning it. Talk about subtext . . . I see this a s a veiled personal attack - Your One Warning - Knock it Off!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #37 May 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteI have a feeling the concept of plain English eludes you. If a person thinks words and sentence construction only ever means what it literally says, then perhaps that does explain their simplistic view of the world. And if a person thinks that a simple statement MUST have some sort of hidden context that only they can detect, then perhaps that does explain their delusional view of the world. QuoteMy personal feeling is this is perhaps the case with as much as 33% of the population. To them, "The Old Man and the Sea" is about a guy that goes fishing and "Moby Dick" is just a story about a whale. Pro-tip: "I am not even talking about terrorism" does NOT equal "Call me Ishmael".Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #38 May 20, 2010 QuotePro-tip: "I am not even talking about terrorism" does NOT equal "Call me Ishmael". But, "Let's deflect from the subject" does mean "I really don't have a valid leg to stand on"You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #39 May 20, 2010 QuoteTalk about subtext . . . Heaven fucking forbid!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #40 May 20, 2010 QuoteBut, "Let's deflect from the subject" does mean "I really don't have a valid leg to stand on" Arrgh, you be talking like a pirate and that failboat set sail before this discussion be started.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #41 May 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteBut, "Let's deflect from the subject" does mean "I really don't have a valid leg to stand on" Arrgh, you be talking like a pirate and that failboat set sail before this discussion be started. I believe the subtext here is, "I have no valid point." with an even deeper underscoring of, ". . . and I am deperately trying to cover my ass, because it has been made to be the fool again." Deflection is fun, boys and girls!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #42 May 20, 2010 Nope. The thead topic was a non-starter distraction to begin with. It has nothing to do with the reality of what's going on in Arizona.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #43 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote Pro-tip: "I am not even talking about terrorism" does NOT equal "Call me Ishmael". But, "Let's deflect from the subject" does mean "I really don't have a valid leg to stand on" Um...ahem...that would be me... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #44 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Pro-tip: "I am not even talking about terrorism" does NOT equal "Call me Ishmael". But, "Let's deflect from the subject" does mean "I really don't have a valid leg to stand on" Um...ahem...that would be me... You have one valid leg . . . left . . . nope - left one ios gone - is that why you lean to the right?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #45 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Pro-tip: "I am not even talking about terrorism" does NOT equal "Call me Ishmael". But, "Let's deflect from the subject" does mean "I really don't have a valid leg to stand on" Um...ahem...that would be me... You have one valid leg . . . left . . . nope - left one ios gone - is that why you lean to the right? LMAO...my left leg is fake...so, leaning left is clearly insincere and false... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #46 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Pro-tip: "I am not even talking about terrorism" does NOT equal "Call me Ishmael". But, "Let's deflect from the subject" does mean "I really don't have a valid leg to stand on" Um...ahem...that would be me... You have one valid leg . . . left . . . nope - left one ios gone - is that why you lean to the right? LMAO...my left leg is fake...so, leaning left is clearly insincere and false... Of course it is - That is obvious because it is government issued!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #47 May 20, 2010 Paul, Sometimes the drivel that comes from your keyboard is too much to bear. i cannot believe that you are as uninformed and bigoted as you appear. Martinis with lemon instead of olives are bullshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #48 May 20, 2010 Quote LMAO...my left leg is fake...so, leaning left is clearly insincere and false.. I never thought I'd say this on here-especially to you but Screw you!!! You just made me spit V8 all over my keyboard. I'll never get it cleanedYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #49 May 20, 2010 Quote California: surrounded by people who's bodies live in the United States of America, but brains seem to live somewhere past Pluto. The whole state has "Jumped the Shark". With your kind permission: Screw you LA! You have no business even mumbling about what AZ is doing here. I'd LOVE to see the lights go out in SoCal. Every welfare family in the state needs a new couch and some new appliances and stuff and they haven't had a good mid-city bonfire party in quite a while.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armour666 0 #50 May 20, 2010 Looks like LA covered them selves from the lights going out http://www.ladwpnews.com/go/doc/1475/555479/SO this one time at band camp..... "Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
