Did 'hit girl' drop the 'c' bomb n US theaters?

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But this was an "R" rated movie in a theater.

Very big difference.

Not really, it is still the government deciding how old you have to be before you are allowed to hear or see something.

I don't think the government is involved in our movie-rating system.

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But this was an "R" rated movie in a theater.
Very big difference.

Not really, it is still the government deciding how old you have to be before you are allowed to hear or see something.

I don't think the government is involved in our movie-rating system.

Actually, in the case of the MPAA, I think I might rather go with a government rating system. At least then people would be held accountable for the ratings given to films and producers would actually know the standards as opposed to the capricious whims of some uptight "parents" and church members.

Great documentary on this BTW;
This Film Is Not Yet Rated

Available on Netflix streaming.

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Actually, in the case of the MPAA, I think I might rather go with a government rating system. At least then people would be held accountable for the ratings given to films and producers would actually know the standards as opposed to the capricious whims of some uptight "parents" and church members.

Great documentary on this BTW;
This Film Is Not Yet Rated

Available on Netflix streaming.

Yeah, I saw that documentary. Pretty interesting. The whole MPAA rating thing is a little bit weird, but I guess I don't personally feel very affected by it. It doesn't seem to prevent me from being able to watch whatever kind of stuff I want to watch.

And speaking of cunts, I was watching a chick flick last night (Boys on the Side), and they said "cunt" several times in the movie. I probably wouldn't have even noticed the word, but it was sort of emphasized since it had something to do with the story.

I had not heard of "Kick Ass" until I saw this thread. (Edit: I just watched the trailers for it. Looks like a fun movie.

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The whole MPAA rating thing is a little bit weird, but I guess I don't personally feel very affected by it.

Unfortunately, the problem is some movies can't get distribution if the MPAA gives them the NC-17 rating and LOTS of advertising venues won't run NC-17 ads.

The pity is, we can't have films made that are "adult" topics, yet also not porn. Don't get me wrong, the porn industry is doing just fine. It gets made and distributed via it's own channels, but if you want to have a serious movie that involves sex, it gets an NC-17 rating and isn't widely advertised or shown. So when you say, "It doesn't seem to prevent me from being able to watch whatever kind of stuff I want to watch." How do you know? There might be some awesome stories out there that simply can't be told because of the way the system works.

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>but if you want to have a serious movie that involves sex, it gets an NC-17
>rating and isn't widely advertised or shown. So when you say, "It doesn't
>seem to prevent me from being able to watch whatever kind of stuff I want
>to watch."

I think there is a difference between an industry voluntarily agreeing to promote certain movies less and "preventing you from seeing them." I mean, the skydiving industry doesn't promote paragliding very much, even though they use similar (in some cases identical) equipment. Doesn't mean that PIA is "preventing you from paragliding."

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>but if you want to have a serious movie that involves sex, it gets an NC-17
>rating and isn't widely advertised or shown. So when you say, "It doesn't
>seem to prevent me from being able to watch whatever kind of stuff I want
>to watch."

I think there is a difference between an industry voluntarily agreeing to promote certain movies less and "preventing you from seeing them." I mean, the skydiving industry doesn't promote paragliding very much, even though they use similar (in some cases identical) equipment. Doesn't mean that PIA is "preventing you from paragliding."

But you're assuming an MPAA rating is optional for a film going into wide release. It's not optional at all because most advertising outlets won't run ads for non-rated or NC-17 films.

It's a monopoly as well in that there is only one ratings board and you have to go through them.

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>It's not optional at all because most advertising outlets won't run ads
>for non-rated or NC-17 films.

An industry that voluntarily follows guidelines is fine with me. USPA does it - yet Lodi (and several other non-USPA DZ's) still exist. People can choose other sources for their movies; on-demand systems allow just about any movies regardless of MPAA ratings and can provide HD content. If enough people get sick of the MPAA system, and stop going to chain theaters to see movies, you can bet the system would change VERY fast.

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>It's not optional at all because most advertising outlets won't run ads
>for non-rated or NC-17 films.
An industry that voluntarily follows guidelines is fine with me. USPA does it - yet Lodi (and several other non-USPA DZ's) still exist. People can choose other sources for their movies; on-demand systems allow just about any movies regardless of MPAA ratings and can provide HD content. If enough people get sick of the MPAA system, and stop going to chain theaters to see movies, you can bet the system would change VERY fast.

You've missed my point. The MPAA isn't holding the viewers hostage; they're holding the movie companies.

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The pity is, we can't have films made that are "adult" topics, yet also not porn.

I don't know about that. I've seen a lot of non-porn "adult" movies. Some of them are unrated, but a lot are rated R. But you're right; I have no way of knowing what I might be missing. I guess what I meant is that I don't _feel_ like I'm missing anything, so it's not a big problem for me. (However, I can understand why it might be frustrating for those who work in the industry.)

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>The MPAA isn't holding the viewers hostage; they're holding the movie companies.

What prevents a movie company from making any movie it likes, then not applying for an MPAA rating?

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>The MPAA isn't holding the viewers hostage; they're holding the movie companies.
What prevents a movie company from making any movie it likes, then not applying for an MPAA rating?

They won't be allowed to display their advertising on most media outlets without an MPAA rating. The vast majority of ways people find out about movies simply won't run the ads. Further, there is a vast section of the country that will NOT book a movie into a theater unless it has, at most, an R rating. Unrated or NC-17 films simply won't be shown at all. In fact, even in Los Angeles, few theaters will risk running an NC-17 film. It's extraordinarily limiting.

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I just watched 'Kick Ass', Hit girl was awesome, when she showed up on the scene she dropped the 'C bomb' and the theater erupted in laughter and cheer, I'm sure in certain places in america that would not be the case.

I'm interested to see if that was allowed in america?

It's just a harmless acronym:

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>The MPAA isn't holding the viewers hostage; they're holding the movie companies.

What prevents a movie company from making any movie it likes, then not applying for an MPAA rating?

Profitability. You can't make a major film that wont get a rating and expect to make any money from it.

Whether it's technically voluntary or not, I think Quade is right in that it's essentially a monopoloy holding the studios hostage, and we simply don't even know what kind of creativity it's stifling.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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>Whether it's technically voluntary or not, I think Quade is right in that
>it's essentially a monopoloy holding the studios hostage . . . .

In the same way that USPA is holding DZ's hostage I suppose. But I am generally OK with that kind of optional mandatory-ness.

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>Whether it's technically voluntary or not, I think Quade is right in that
>it's essentially a monopoloy holding the studios hostage . . . .

In the same way that USPA is holding DZ's hostage I suppose.

In practise, no. Not the same way.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Whether it's technically voluntary or not, I think Quade is right in that it's essentially a monopoloy holding the studios hostage, and we simply don't even know what kind of creativity it's stifling.

I could not agree more.

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They won't be allowed to display their advertising on most media outlets without an MPAA rating. The vast majority of ways people find out about movies simply won't run the ads. Further, there is a vast section of the country that will NOT book a movie into a theater unless it has, at most, an R rating. Unrated or NC-17 films simply won't be shown at all. In fact, even in Los Angeles, few theaters will risk running an NC-17 film. It's extraordinarily limiting.

Does the MPAA have anything to do with keeping NC-17 or unrated movies from being advertised or from being booked in theaters? Or is this a problem outside of their reach?

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They won't be allowed to display their advertising on most media outlets without an MPAA rating. The vast majority of ways people find out about movies simply won't run the ads. Further, there is a vast section of the country that will NOT book a movie into a theater unless it has, at most, an R rating. Unrated or NC-17 films simply won't be shown at all. In fact, even in Los Angeles, few theaters will risk running an NC-17 film. It's extraordinarily limiting.

Does the MPAA have anything to do with keeping NC-17 or unrated movies from being advertised or from being booked in theaters? Or is this a problem outside of their reach?

It's the; newspapers, TV stations, theater owners. None of which want the "hassle" of dealing with the complaints by ultra-conservatives who equate NC-17 with "XXX." So if the MPAA tells a movie studio they need to cut scenes or they'll get an NC-17, the studios almost without exception bend to their demands.

The weirdness flows from the subjective opinion of the MPAA though. Multiple gruesome murders, R rating . . . fine, go right ahead. A brief scene where a woman actually enjoys having sex . . . BOOM! NC-17 and the film won't get distribution unless cuts are made.

I've noticed it getting far more skewed over the years as well. Compare films from the 1970s with the films today. Today there is far more violence and far less actually mature content, although a LOT more "potty humor." I guess people making fun of sex is ok, but people being serious about sex isn't.

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