Amazon 7 #51 April 13, 2010 Quote Quote OK so we will put you in the "crush the fucking economy because I think all social programs should be cut and let the psuedo-capitalist market decide on everything else except inflated military industrial complex and Military spending because supply side economics fixes everything" catagory. Thank you for playing. crush the economy? I need some of the drugs you are taking. Government spending is killing the economy. maybe those that work should keep more and the freeloaders should work a lot more and government should stop spending our money on handouts for the leachesmilitary industrial leeches and illegalsillegal under the table deals that President Eisenhower warned us about. Fixed your simplistic racist nihalistic post above.. talk about being on drugsHOW ABOUT NOT SPENDING ALL THE MONEY for the largest military spending in the fucking world.... the ever growing black hole where far more of our money has dissapeared intoThe amount of money spent on your supposed buggaboo of welfare is a mere drop in the bucket compared to the crap your practitioners of VOO DOO DOO economics have perpetrated to their good buddies at Haliburton... Blackwater.... all the contracts let in Iraq for cost PLUS and the other deals that we did not hear a peep out of all the right wing fucknuggets who seemd to think that if Bush and his Rubber Stamp Congress wanted it.. So let it be Written.. So let it be DONE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #52 April 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote OK so we will put you in the "crush the fucking economy because I think all social programs should be cut and let the psuedo-capitalist market decide on everything else except inflated military industrial complex and Military spending because supply side economics fixes everything" catagory. Thank you for playing. crush the economy? I need some of the drugs you are taking. Government spending is killing the economy. maybe those that work should keep more and the freeloaders should work a lot more and government should stop spending our money on handouts for the leachesmilitary industrial leeches and illegalsillegal under the table deals that President Eisenhower warned us about. Fixed your simplistic racist nihalistic post above.. talk about being on drugsHOW ABOUT NOT SPENDING ALL THE MONEY for the largest military spending in the fucking world.... the ever growing black hole where far more of our money has dissapeared intoThe amount of money spent on your supposed buggaboo of welfare is a mere drop in the bucket compared to the crap your practitioners of VOO DOO DOO economics have perpetrated to their good buddies at Haliburton... Blackwater.... all the contracts let in Iraq for cost PLUS and the other deals that we did not hear a peep out of all the right wing fucknuggets who seemd to think that if Bush and his Rubber Stamp Congress wanted it.. So let it be Written.. So let it be DONE. [email] the only racist is you, since when did earning your way through life and being legal become racist? oh ya when it is against your ideals. Taxing only white people (tanning tax) or a select group of earners (The over 200k crowd)is racist but I guess you wouldn't see that since you are blinded by the koolaid from Obama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #53 April 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote no the budget needs to be cut until the government can pay its bills without adding to the burden on the people and companies. that seems to be a bit unrealistic why because the handouts would have to stop? people would have to not buy a big screen tv when they need food? not buy a $5000 quad in order to buy insurance?(I have a freind that can not afford insurance but has a Z06 vett and 4 new quads and is happy Obama gave her free insurance because it is to costly for 125k a year income) i think your view of those on welfare is a bit prejudiced by your friend no I see someone that will pay the fine for no health care and take the free health care - I also see people sitting on unemployment because the job they were offered was a cut in pay from the last job so they want the gov to support them for a while. I see people on welfare because they would need to make 50-60k a year full time to be better off than what government is giving them. why work when you can make 20k in cash part time and have the government pay you in handouts (welfare) equall to a 35-40k job equalling 55-60k a year. and these are all folks that you are friends with? every group has its issues, expecially the left since these people all voted for the dem's besides I skydive with everyone reguardless of their political beliefs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #54 April 13, 2010 Actually the whole welfare screaming you did has a LONG history and been a buzzword of the KKK and C of CC.( the uptown klan).... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #55 April 13, 2010 > Why don't we cut down to the basics? As another conservative here explained a few days ago, big cuts in government spending result in millions of people on unemployment and food stamps. The result would be, in his words: "HUGE cut in revenues recieved by fed.gov from all the above through the various business and income taxes, and a huge DRAIN on fed.gov through unemployment/food stamps/etc." I guess as long as you're willing to pay for that, it might work. How much additional tax would you be willing to pay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #56 April 13, 2010 Quote Actually the whole welfare screaming you did has a LONG history and been a buzzword of the KKK and C of CC.( the uptown klan).... so it is racist to not support the lazy and clueless. I got it now you use racism to get people to pay for those that are less fortunate due to being lazy. I see those that cry racism are the one that are usually racist, like you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #57 April 13, 2010 Quote> Why don't we cut down to the basics? As another conservative here explained a few days ago, big cuts in government spending result in millions of people on unemployment and food stamps. And millions / billions of dollars for companies to hire workers and put people to work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #58 April 13, 2010 >And millions / billions of dollars for companies to hire workers and put >people to work You'll have to take that up with mnealtx. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #59 April 13, 2010 Both of you cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #60 April 13, 2010 Quote>And millions / billions of dollars for companies to hire workers and put >people to work You'll have to take that up with mnealtx. there would be a transition period of unemployment from people going from gov jobs to private sector jobs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #61 April 13, 2010 Quote Quote Actually the whole welfare screaming you did has a LONG history and been a buzzword of the KKK and C of CC.( the uptown klan).... so it is racist to not support the lazy and clueless. I got it now you use racism to get people to pay for those that are less fortunate due to being lazy. I see those that cry racism are the one that are usually racist, like you. If you ever actually READ WHAT THE FUCK I WRITE... instead of sticking to your fringe right assumptions of what you THINK I wrote.... you might just STFU.But we KNOW that aint gonna happen now dont wePoint #1 Point #2 Point #3 You can start your sputtering and backpeddaling now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #62 April 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Actually the whole welfare screaming you did has a LONG history and been a buzzword of the KKK and C of CC.( the uptown klan).... so it is racist to not support the lazy and clueless. I got it now you use racism to get people to pay for those that are less fortunate due to being lazy. I see those that cry racism are the one that are usually racist, like you. If you ever actually READ WHAT THE FUCK I WRITE... instead of sticking to your fringe right assumptions of what you THINK I wrote.... you might just STFU.But we KNOW that aint gonna happen now dont wePoint #1 Point #2 Point #3 You can start your sputtering and backpeddaling now you still did not remove the incentive for them to come here, no welfare, no medical care, no housing, no unemployment no drivers lic, no food stamps, no citezenship for the kids nothing until you come here legally. the government gives them the incentives to come here the employers just capitalize on the cheap labor. when an illegal walks into a federal office, hospital, gets pulled over, or is turned in by a citizen they should be deported. on the next bus south, and now we have fixed grayhounds issues because we could use them to do the deporting. fix the border so they can not come over would also help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #63 April 13, 2010 Quote> Why don't we cut down to the basics? As another conservative here explained a few days ago, big cuts in government spending result in millions of people on unemployment and food stamps. The result would be, in his words: "HUGE cut in revenues recieved by fed.gov from all the above through the various business and income taxes, and a huge DRAIN on fed.gov through unemployment/food stamps/etc." I guess as long as you're willing to pay for that, it might work. How much additional tax would you be willing to pay?You ignore what pays for them to begin with That is a twisted point no matter how you look at it A single pass cut would not be the way to do it A planned cut would make the whole country better in the end We will just have to go through some pain as Obama says It is just who goes through said pain and who those in pain vote for in the end doesn't it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 0 #64 April 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote OK so we will put you in the "crush the fucking economy because I think all social programs should be cut and let the psuedo-capitalist market decide on everything else except inflated military industrial complex and Military spending because supply side economics fixes everything" catagory. Thank you for playing. Thank you for playing? You said nothing of value! You simply made some assumptions and decided to catagorize me with little to no knowledge of my views. How about you actually address what I wrote? You never seem to be able to ever do that... you just insult, assume, and then push your own canned agenda. Useless...... Let me put it to you this way..... just like a family that is struggling with money... sometimes things like cable and a cell phone need to be trimmed. Or maybe that new flat screen or car they wanted to buy... nope shouldn't do it. If only the govt. could see that is how a budget should operate but they cannot bc every guy in DC has an agenda to push and they all want more and more to go towards their projects. Why don't we cut down to the basics? It may be tough for a bit but I'm sure America will make it through. I have a lot more confidence we will make it through that then the road we are currently on which is spending ourselves in to oblivion. Real basic.... if you cannot afford it don't spend the money. Do you understand? I certainly understand it.. but where the FUCK was all this "conservative" righteous indignation about spending as you damn near BANKRUPTED THE FUCKING COUNTRY in the last 30 years???? See ... you cannot do it. You simply cannot post without bringing up the Bush admin. and how the Fd up everything... that's sad really They did screw up and I hated what that admin. was doing and I hate what this one is doing. I didnt like what Bush was doing yet and neither did you but you love what Obama is doing? Spending even more? I think you made my point for me. The spending has to stop and the cuts have to be made. End of story!Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 0 #65 April 14, 2010 Quote Quote As for poverty increasing.... that is not for me to decide or the govt. and poverty does not decrease by giving them tax payers money. but it does by increasing the minimum wage (which is not money for nothing) No it doesn't it makes goods more expensive and hikes inflation. Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 0 #66 April 14, 2010 Quote> Why don't we cut down to the basics? As another conservative here explained a few days ago, big cuts in government spending result in millions of people on unemployment and food stamps. The result would be, in his words: "HUGE cut in revenues recieved by fed.gov from all the above through the various business and income taxes, and a huge DRAIN on fed.gov through unemployment/food stamps/etc." I guess as long as you're willing to pay for that, it might work. How much additional tax would you be willing to pay? Honestly Bill.... a lot if it was being doe right to correct the problem for my children. I don't hate taxes... as you have pointed out they pay for many things we need or at least think we do. If the govt. made cuts and was being proactive and the taxes hiked especially temporarily then it would be well worth it. There would be pain just like there is pain when a family has to buckle down to pay off debt. I do not think it would be as bad as some think. just my opinion.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VTmotoMike08 0 #67 April 14, 2010 I didn't read this whole thread but I guarentee that if Obama enacts a VAT in America, the next election will unquestioningly go to the republicans. It would be the easiest campaign promise ever- repeal the VAT! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #68 April 14, 2010 Quote You think tax cuts and supply side economics caused the last recession? The CURRENT recession was caused by the same greedy people who also whine continuously about the taxes they pay.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #69 April 14, 2010 Why do I post here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #70 April 14, 2010 Quote Quote As for poverty increasing.... that is not for me to decide or the govt. and poverty does not decrease by giving them tax payers money. but it does by increasing the minimum wage (which is not money for nothing) And then manufacturer's raise prices because labor is more expensive, or they have to lay off people due to the costs. Great idea, Kevin.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #71 April 14, 2010 Quote Quote Quote OK so we will put you in the HOW ABOUT NOT SPENDING ALL THE MONEY for the largest military spending in the fucking world.... the ever growing black hole where far more of our money has dissapeared into I'll speak slowly. Take out a calculator. Type in 1.5 trillion. Hit the "-" button. Type in 650 billion. Press the "=" button. I'm no fortune teller, but I'm guessing your calculator reads somewhere around 900 billion. Shutting down the ENTIRE Department of Defense wouldn't even reduce the deficit by half. How do you think reducing military spending will balance the budget? On top of closing the entire DoD, what would you suggest shutting off in order to get the deficit under control? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #72 April 14, 2010 Quote Quote HOW ABOUT NOT SPENDING ALL THE MONEY for the largest military spending in the fucking world.... the ever growing black hole where far more of our money has dissapeared into Shutting down the ENTIRE Department of Defense wouldn't even reduce the deficit by half. How do you think reducing military spending will balance the budget? On top of closing the entire DoD, what would you suggest shutting off in order to get the deficit under control? Trillion dollar deficits are abnormal. Once we get the current financial crisis under control and return to normal, scaling back to what other first-world countries spend would completely eliminate the deficit 2001 $144.5 billion 2002 $409.5 billion 2003 $589.0 billion 2004 $605.0 billion 2005 $523.0 billion 2006 $536.5 billion 2007 $459.5 billion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #73 April 14, 2010 Quote Quote Quote As for poverty increasing.... that is not for me to decide or the govt. and poverty does not decrease by giving them tax payers money. but it does by increasing the minimum wage (which is not money for nothing) No it doesn't it makes goods more expensive and hikes inflation. no it doesn't - it reduces poverty through work rather than welfare stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #74 April 14, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote As for poverty increasing.... that is not for me to decide or the govt. and poverty does not decrease by giving them tax payers money. but it does by increasing the minimum wage (which is not money for nothing) No it doesn't it makes goods more expensive and hikes inflation. no it doesn't - it reduces poverty through work rather than welfare Only in alternate-reality.net - in the real world it's exactly as rstanley said.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #75 April 14, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote As for poverty increasing.... that is not for me to decide or the govt. and poverty does not decrease by giving them tax payers money. but it does by increasing the minimum wage (which is not money for nothing) No it doesn't it makes goods more expensive and hikes inflation. no it doesn't - it reduces poverty through work rather than welfare Only in alternate-reality.net - in the real world it's exactly as rstanley said. in your opinion stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
