JohnDeere 0 #1 October 11, 2009 Got this in an email. It started with this. QuoteThis is interesting! I realized, based on the news accounts of his arrest, that Henry Gates is an angry-at-whites black man. I just didn't realize that he's prominent in the reparations intitative in the U.S. As you will recall, Henry Louis Gates, Jr. is the Harvard professor who got arrested by Cambridge Police a week or so ago. Fred Reed was a police reporter for one of the large Washington newspapers. He now writes a column which can be googled "Fred on Everything." Fred published a weekly online column in which he got to say the things his editors would never, ever have let him write in the paper. His stuff is iconoclastic and various articles have probably offended everyone, regardless of political orientation. So, with the warning that "This is definitely not politically correct," here comes Fred..... The following is an essay regarding the failings of a system and a culture. Please note that he elegantly describes the mood of many Americans and he does so without prejudice. Then the atrical in this link. http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm This should help start a good conversation. I posted link instead of email, so other's no that i did verify were it's from. Thanks wendy. didnt notice. On the link you can goto column 39 on the left side But this is the column. QuoteOh, Lord. I'd pull my hair out, if I had more. On the Web I find that Henry Louis Gates Jr., the chairman of Afro-American Studies at Harvard, is demanding that whites, pay reparations to blacks. It's because of slavery, see. He is joined in this endeavor by a gaggle of other professional blacks. I guess he'll send me a bill. Huh? I feel like saying, Let me get this straight, Hank. I'm slow. Be patient. You want free money because of slavery, right? I don't blame you. I'd like free money too. Tell you what. I believe in justice. I'll give you a million dollars for every slave I own, and another million for every year you were a slave. Fair enough? But tell me, how many slaves do you suppose I have? In round numbers, I mean. Say to the nearest dozen. And how long were you a slave? Oh. In other words, I owe you reparations for something that I didn't do and didn't happen to you. That makes sense. Like lug nuts on a birthday cake. Personally, I think you owe me reparations for things you didn't do and never happened to me. I've never been coated in Dutch chocolate and thrown from the Eiffel Tower. I'll bet you've never done it to anyone. I want reparations. Kinda silly, isn't it? But if we're going to talk about reparations, that's a street that runs in two directions. You want money from me for what some other whites did to some other blacks in another century. How about you guys paying whites reparations for current expenses caused by blacks? Not long ago blacks burned down half of Los Angeles, a city in my country. Cities are expensive, Hank. Build one sometime and you'll see what I mean. Whites had to pay taxes to repair Los Angeles for you. You can send me a check. Now, yes, I know you burned LA because you didn't like the verdict in the trial of those police officers. Well, I didn't like the verdict in the Simpson trial. But I didn't burn my house and loot Korean grocers. Over the years blacks have burned a lot of American cities: Newark, Detroit, Watts, on and on. Now add in the fantastic cost over the years of welfare in all its forms, of large police forces and jails and security systems in department stores. I can't live in the capital city of my own country because of crime committed by blacks. Toss in the cultural cost of lowering standards in everything for the benefit of blacks. See what I mean? Now, I'd view things differently if you said, "Fred, blacks can't get anywhere in a modern country without education. We know that. We need better schools, smarter teachers, harder courses, books with smaller pictures and bigger words. Can you help us?" I'd say, "Hallelujah! Hoo-ahh! Not just yes, but hell yes. Let's sell an aircraft carrier and get these folks some real schools and get them into the economic mainstream." I'd say it partly because it would be the right thing to do, and partly because I'd like to add you guys to the tax base. The current custodial state is expensive. I'd just love for blacks to study and learn to compete and stop burning places. But is it going to happen? You may not believe it, but I, and most whites, don't like seeing blacks as miserable and screwed up as they are. I spend a fair amount of time in the projects. Those places are ugly. It's no fun watching perfectly good kids turn into semi-literate dope dealers who barely speak English. It just plain ain't right. But, Hank, what am I supposed to do about it? I can't do your children's homework. At some point, people have to do things for themselves, or they don't get done. Maybe it's time. I'll tell you what I see out in the world, Hank. I think blacks are too accustomed to getting anything they want by just demanding it. True, it has worked for over half a century. Get a few hundred people in the street, implicitly threaten to loot and burn, holler about slavery, and the Great White Cash Spigot turns on. Thing is, whites don't much buy it any longer. Most recognize that what once was a civil-rights movement has become a shakedown game. Few people still feel responsible for the failings and inadequacies of blacks. Political correctness keeps the lid on--but everyone knows the score. Which scares me, Hank. On one hand, blacks hate whites and incline toward looting and burning. (The whites you hate are the ones who marched in the civil-rights movement. Ever think about that?) On the other hand, whites quietly grow wearier and wearier of it. Not good. On the third hand (allow me three hands, for rhetorical convenience) blacks keep demanding things. As I write, you demand reparations for slavery. Blacks in Oklahoma (I think it was) want money for some ancient race riot. Other blacks reject the Declaration of Independence, blacks in New York hint broadly at burning and looting over a trial, yet more demand the elimination of the Confederate flag, and the federal equal-opportunity apparatus, which means blacks, wants to sue Silicon Valley for not hiring nonexistent black engineers. That's a lot of demanding for one month, Hank. What happens if whites ever say, "No"? Now, how about you? You've got a cushy job up there at Harvard, and you can hoot and holler about what swine and bandits whites are. I guess it's lots of fun, and you get a salary for it. But don't you think you might do blacks more good if you told them to complain less and study more? For example, if you want blacks to work in Silicon Gulch, the best approach might be to find some really smart black guys, and get them to study digital design, not Black Studies. That's how everybody else does it. It works. Then blacks wouldn't feel left out, and racial tension would decline. Sound like a plan? Just out of curiosity, how many hours a week do professors of Afro-American Studies spend in the projects, encouraging poor black kids to study real subjects, Hank? Oh. Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #2 October 11, 2009 Unfortunately, that link just points you at the latest column -- was there a particular one? Because the latest doesn't seem to say anything about politics of racial extortion, and there isn't any on Gates. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #3 October 11, 2009 Sorry i posted it. But it is on the left side column 39.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #4 October 11, 2009 Sigh. Those pesky Negroes; they're at it again. Eh, what can you do? Good thing there are articles like this, or this country'd go to Hell in a handbasket. Oh, wait! There's a Negro in charge now! Shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #5 October 11, 2009 QuoteThere's a Negro in charge now! Huh? When did that happen? Now, I'm REALLY confused. Yesterday, there was a half-black, half white, liberal with a socialist agenda, that had questionable citizenry, who won the Nobel Peace prize for bombing the moon, while trying to get the Olympics in Chicago, guy in charge. Or sumpin like that.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #6 October 11, 2009 Fred appears to be talking about this comment: "Affirmative action to me is reparations for sexism, reparations for racism." from this interview: http://prelectur.stanford.edu/lecturers/gates/jsinterv.html It's the only reference I could find in which Dr. Gates speaks of "reparations." Sheesh.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #7 October 11, 2009 Quote Quote There's a Negro in charge now! Huh? When did that happen? Now, I'm REALLY confused. Yesterday, there was a half-black, half white, liberal with a socialist agenda, that had questionable citizenry, who won the Nobel Peace prize for bombing the moon, while trying to get the Olympics in Chicago, guy in charge. Or sumpin like that. Is there an award for GREAT posts????? If so, I nominate BIGUN"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #8 October 12, 2009 So this guy Fred is generically confusing an entire dependent social class and grouping it in with the term "Blacks". That's escalatory and non-productive. It's typical of the myopic viewpoint of people that live in large urban areas and think the whole world is just like their backyard. He's effectively taking a social issue and dividing it along racial lines instead of income lines. That's no better than what Gates, or others do. It really blurs the discussion from acknowledging any good points, and from addressing some pretty stupid points. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #9 October 12, 2009 And a pretty good example of why one shouldn't take anything that someone says in a vacuum of "so and so said it, so it must be right/wrong." Just because George Bush or Barack Obama say something doesn't make it either right or wrong. And just because Osama Bin Laden likes something doesn't make it awful -- he might like cute cuddly little bunny rabbits Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #10 October 12, 2009 Quote http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm Interesting link. Thanks for posting it.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lost_n_confuzd 0 #11 October 13, 2009 While I don't agree with him potraying all blacks as undeducated gang bangers and incinuating that all blacks had a part in the L.A. Riots (you know what I mean), I do understand the idea the article is trying to convey. Anyways, if anyone, the Spanish are to blame for Slavery in America Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #12 October 13, 2009 I thought i would get more reply's calling me a rasist, but oh well. The way i read it was he was not saying all blacks are bad and all black's are to blame for our problems. I read it several time's to understand where he was coming from and he is bassicaly saying that if you beleive that the white are the only cause and should pay for slavery, then black's are to blame for the riot's (that he spoke of) etc. Think about it. The white where part of the "face" of slavery. Black where part of the "face" of the other event's, cause they where the one's causing the problems in the other event's. Cant beleive not many noticed thatEdit to add...This just goes to show how closed minded alot of people are when reading thing's they already have a strong opinion onPlease if you have already read it, please read again with my thought in mind and see if it reads diff. this time. If you think im wrong then please say so. Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #13 October 13, 2009 Fred clearly has a well developed opinion. I read several of his articles today. While I don't agree with everything he's saying, nor do I disagree.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #14 October 13, 2009 Quote Fred clearly has a well developed opinion Yes he does! If you noticed those artical's on that page are not published. I guess he is not PC enough. But that is what i like, someone that will speak there mind even if it's not PC.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lost_n_confuzd 0 #15 October 13, 2009 Quote Cant beleive not many noticed that I'm pretty sure most did. Its not the friggin' DaVinci Code... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #16 October 13, 2009 QuoteI thought i would get more reply's calling me a rasist, why so? - fred is the racist (and obviously as thick as a plank) (fred doesn't say what colour he is - i guess white)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #17 October 13, 2009 QuoteQuoteI thought i would get more reply's calling me a rasist, why so? - fred is the racist (and obviously as thick as a plank) (fred doesn't say what colour he is - i guess white) There's a picture of a white guy at the top of the left column on the web page. By context, it looks like it's intended to depict Fred. It could be anyone's picture, of course. The web site could be maintained by some crafty Negro who wants to start a race war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites