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ummmmm. did you miss that I don't TRULY believe that you are [insert random insulting term]?

I was just using YOUR faulty logic. If you don't like that logic, then don't use it.



You said you oppose socialism.

Like many right wing americans, you obviously do not understand what your statement means.

You are essentially saying that public schools should be closed, nasa should sell up, a company should be protecting you country (Military) and everything should be owned by companies and individuals.

From whom and how would these parties acquire the recources in which they would need to operate?

Capitalism alone is flawed, it has to be combined with socialism (as it is and will always be), you just need to comprehend that and understand what it is you are talking about.

Just to help you a bit;

Socialism is not a case of the govornment owning everything, and communism is not dictatorship.

Unfortunately though, that is the right wing american belief that was propped up by propoganda in the 1960's to justify the murder of many thousands of people in south east asia for the financial gain of a few capitalist assohles.
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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Thats for the read! Do you have the whole review that i can read?:)



See attached.


I can't see it, but I'd like to:)

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So in the end you state you oppose national forests, NASA, the USA military...?

You want everything to be owned by individuals or companies and strongly oppose the earths/nations recources being owned by the community as a whole.

How would you feel about your street being privatised, pay a buck eack time you come home?

Your logic toward racism is as flawed as your logic towards politics, selfish people deserve to be pointed out and ostracized not held up on a high horse.



I've never seen her espouse any of the above - you might want to get that telepathy chip checked out, or quit buying them at the discount store.
Mike
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I've never seen her espouse any of the above - you might want to get that telepathy chip checked out, or quit buying them at the discount store.



You need to learn to read/understand better.

She said she opposed socialism,

You are socialist, working for the govornment. She opposes your job and she opposes all the things I stated above.

My point was(that you were not bright enough to grasp, unsurprisingly), she doesn't oppose socialism at all, neither do you obviously, She just mis-understands the definition of the word, and believes the mainstream propoganda put out in the USA, like most of you sheep in here.

I overheard an argument yesterday between two americans at the DZ about this very subject, the nay sayer said that NASA is a capitalist projrect because privite enterpise constructed the plant and equipment. he was corrected quite quickly, I stepped in and asked him what the difference between socialism and communism was;

He couldn't answer.

Once again a strong opposition to socialism by someone who doesn't know what it actually is.

A sad state of affairs really.

You guys(especially hooper) don't debate, you are too closed minded to do so, and your standpoints are so set in concrete, you will not listen to the truth when is is laid out in front of you.

I'll leave you all to your KKK, oops NRA meeting!:D

You obviously oppose sharing with the (entire) community, so why would you ever be receptive to my input? It is contradictory to your game plan.
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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(and for what it's worth, I have SEVERAL friends that game hunt. One even has a trophy room that I tend to refer to as the "Hall of Death". . . but just because it's something that I wouldn't do, does NOT mean that they are lesser people than me because they would do that. When you start feeling SUPERIOR because your beliefs are so much more "enlightened"... that's when you need to be careful to check your ego at the door.



Bullshit, GI jane.

The desire to kill 5 very large, potentilly endangered animals says alot about a person.

T'is not for food, nor self defence, it is blatant, un-necessary violence.

You condone such violence yourself, but those that actually have a heart, usually find this type of behavior completely unacceptable.

We all share this earth together, what gives some pompus git the right to kill and elephant, a lion, a rhino, a leopard and a Buffalo. for what?

An erection?!?

The logic of some people never ceases to amaze me!



Wow - THAT is a prime example of tolerance, is it not?
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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I've never seen her espouse any of the above - you might want to get that telepathy chip checked out, or quit buying them at the discount store.



You need to learn to read/understand better.

She said she opposed socialism,

You are socialist, working for the govornment. She opposes your job and she opposes all the things I stated above.

My point was(that you were not bright enough to grasp, unsurprisingly), she doesn't oppose socialism at all, neither do you obviously, She just mis-understands the definition of the word, and believes the mainstream propoganda put out in the USA, like most of you sheep in here.

I overheard an argument yesterday between two americans at the DZ about this very subject, the nay sayer said that NASA is a capitalist projrect because privite enterpise constructed the plant and equipment. he was corrected quite quickly, I stepped in and asked him what the difference between socialism and communism was;

He couldn't answer.

Once again a strong opposition to socialism by someone who doesn't know what it actually is.

A sad state of affairs really.

You guys(especially hooper) don't debate, you are too closed minded to do so, and your standpoints are so set in concrete, you will not listen to the truth when is is laid out in front of you.

I'll leave you all to your KKK, oops NRA meeting!:D

You obviously oppose sharing with the (entire) community, so why would you ever be receptive to my input? It is contradictory to your game plan.


Nice collection of insults there, skippy - great way to convince the people that you're debating of the truth of your argument.

Also a sign of a VERY weak debator.
Mike
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I'll leave you all to your KKK, oops NRA meeting!:D



So.... because I own a gun I'm now a racist? You've been spending to much time abroad mate.:D

The governments job is to protect us, not provide for us. To that extent some government programs are necessary (like police, military, NASA). You will never convince me that they should be selling me a car though. Free markets are what made america great and why all other countries that are now in a first world status or are having strong growth are invested in our markets.

New Zealand doesn't even have an Airforce!!! Just like Canada, do you think the Kiwi's could enjoy their freedoms AND social programs if they had to pay for their own security? It must be nice to have a big brother like Australia to watch your back.:P
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So.... because I own a gun I'm now a racist?



No, if you 'LOVE' guns and argue that racist comments are not racist, then you are a likely contender for the KKK.

I don't hate guns, I intend on purchasing one, when I settle back in NZ for hunting.

Good organic meat and helping our fragile envoronment from introduced mammals are my incentive, no ego boost or power trips.

The kill will take me back emotionally, but as a meat eater I have to accept what is real.
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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So.... because I own a gun I'm now a racist?



No, if you 'LOVE' guns and argue that racist comments are not racist, then you are a likely contender for the KKK.




But let me see if I can pull together the logic.

Post 1 - Unfunny picture that should (IMO) get someone fired for emailing.

Post 4 - you associated racism with firearms ownership (or just those that "love guns" - how do you "love" a gun though... do you mean like "biblical" love... cuz dude, that's just wrong), libertarianism (or just those that oppose socialism), like Palin and voted for President Bush. (and throw out the "c" word ... which just adds distraction from your argument - then further detract from your argument with the defense of that word usage in post 59 and post 119)

Post 122 - it seems you try to say that it's ok to do some political satire but not others. (and you throw the "cunt" term again)

Post 125 - anyone that doesn't agree with your definition of "cunt" is a "short sighted post whore"

Post 126 - I arrive on the scene - suggest that maybe you should pick a different word, disagree with the "it's ok for some, but not for others" BUT ultimately agree with your opinion that the photo is not funny and should not be acceptable .... especially in her job field.

Post 127 - You claim: I care, so have a right to say what I want even if some people are offended, but other people should lose their voting rights.

banter, name calling, pissing contest ensues...

Post 162 - You insinuate that I'm selfish, racist and violent. (oh... and that I'm amazing)

Post 164 - I use your same logic to infer that you are lazy, violent and xenophobic. . . . but then point out the faulty logic of BOTH statements in post 162 and 164. (and I agree... I am amazing)

Post 165 and 176- You are there to "enlighten" me... as I think you described it.... by telling me that in fact I am socialist and yet somehow still selfish?! And then you repeat the theme over again.

Post 186 - you reveal that you actually plan on purchasing a firearm... but since you won't "love" it... it's ok. Only those that LOVE their guns and argue that racist comments are not racist are contenders for the KKK.

Did I read that right?

How exactly again does firearm ownership fit in with personal beliefs of race discrimination? Only if you "love" them? Check.

And being "racist" - is it arguing that racist comments are not racist? or "condoning" racial comments by allowing freedom of speech (even when acknowledging that with that freedom comes with some responsibility... like that aide getting fired)? Or does it depend on whether someone killed the Big 5? (back to shooting and guns again) But... you're going to get a gun? Oh right. You won't be killing the Big 5. And you'll feel bad about it.

Personally, I have my beliefs on MY biases. And I have thoughts on who might be "racist" or "sexist" or "insert comment"... but until I truly know that person, judging them is silly. (but pointing out flawed logic can be fun)

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But let me see if I can pull together the logic.



You are quite a vein person arent you, why do you keep hijacking the threads to finger me out (don't get all offenden and usere the wrong definition of fingered, I'm not that kind of guy, much!:D:D).

You make these side tangents in conversation to try to compare my thoughts the thay way yours work.

You came out 'guns blazing' so to speak, criticizing me for using the english language.

I simply pointed out to you and a number of others, that Cunt is in fact a bonafide and acceptable term in out language and the definition i used is included in all decent dictioaries;

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Used as a disparaging term for a person one dislikes or finds extremely disagreeable. dictionary.cm



I'm sure there are plenty of people who are dead set certain that I will go to Hell and burn for an eternity with all the other heathens!! I am dead set that they are kidding themselves.

This is a politcal forum sweetheart, we are supposed to disagree with each other.

When I talk about the big 5? I talk about the mindset behind wanting to take the lives of some of the most beautiful beings on the planet, the guns I couldn't give a shit about. i'm sure the big five have been 'taken out' with means other than firearms. You have a one track mind.

I don't think like you, so don't assume so.

Thinking an image "is racist" and should be a 'sackable offence' does not get you off the hook. You could be a the head of the kKK and think the same way, (don't assume i'm incinuating that, it is just an extreme example).

I am allowed to think racists are cunts and i can call them that if i wish. You want to take my cunts away from me, how dare you:D:D

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You are quite a vein person arent you, why do you keep hijacking the threads to finger me out (don't get all offenden and usere the wrong definition of fingered, I'm not that kind of guy, much!:D:D).



Yet again, I must agree.

In the 10 post that I have contributed to this thread, I guess that have provided a low pressure influence and one could say that I have just returned the toxins to where they belong. My post volume here does not even put me in the top 5, while others have been far more "arterial" in their contributions. Supplying bounding responses (up to 28 to be exact) to multiple limbs of the discussion, some quite distal from the core of the topic... but I wouldn't classify those as "aortic" entries; considering the language that was spurted and the number of branches, lets describe them as the anterior division of the internal iliac. We've also had our capillary responses (18 with only 1 post, 5 with 2 post, 10 with 3 posts...)

Oh... and if you meant "vain" - you have 7 responses to my 9 prior posts. Why wouldn't I be "vain." B|



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This is a politcal forum sweetheart, we are supposed to disagree with each other.



Ah... but disagreeing is very different from discussing or debating. And even those with differences in political opinions should be able to discuss and debate without becoming vulgar. And... you weren't just "fingered" out by me with respect to the language. There were 53 posts dealing with the topic of the use of that word (26 "against" and 27 "for") from 19 different posters (9 "against" and 10 "for"). I limited my posts on discussing it to 2 (now 3) And my point wasn't "OH HORROR... HE USED THAT WORD".... rather
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If you know something is offensive to someone... EVEN IF it isn't to you... the RESPECTFUL discourse would not include that term. Find a different word - there are plenty out there. If you feel you HAVE to use THAT SPECIFIC one.... why?



-and ... just to help you with US definitions/ usages of words, typically females are "fingered" by males. Males get a "hand job." "Finger"... "hand"... yeah, they're close. I understand the confusion. Maybe it's different for kiwi's... But I don't really want to know



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I don't think like you, so don't assume so.



Agreement again (you know... this is the 4th post in the ten that I typed where I am in agreement)



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You want to take my cunts away from me, how dare you:D:D



OK... on this we don't agree. You can keep your cunts.




- Sorry Councilman24... but you knew on post 89 that your thread was well and hijacked.

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