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No, they are NOT exactly parallel.



Why not?

They are both slang words for gentalia that are also used as a derogatory term for a person you want to insult, jokingly or otherwise depending on the situation.

How are they not exactly equal? Is it because you think the vagina is horrible but the penis isn't?



Well, ask yourself this. If you were to name a child one of these two names, which would it be?

In there you have your answer.
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marc, that word doesn't have the same horrible connotation in other countries as it does here. spend a week in britain and you'll hear it a lot. Heck, it doesn't even specifically target women, IIRC.

it's like saying "assholes"...i highly doubt rhys was targeting females with that usage.

Maybe he needs to get with the PC movement, in this century.

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Well you are quite narrow minded for thinking that way then arent you, a word is only offensive if you are offended by it.

In all honesty, the word 'Cunt' is only offensive if used that way, I was using it to describe my feelings to those that find that picture funny.

It's rather ironic, that you would find a non-picture offensive, but willingly use a word, that's totally offensive, to a large part of the American population.... Rather selective, in our political correctness, aren't we?


Those people that found that picture funny, in my opinion are 'Cunts' (assholes/fuckwits/wankers/morons). simple.

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Well you are quite narrow minded for thinking that way then arent you, a word is only offensive if you are offended by it.

In all honesty, the word 'Cunt' is only offensive if used that way, I was using it to describe my feelings to those that find that picture funny.

It's rather ironic, that you would find a non-picture offensive, but willingly use a word, that's totally offensive, to a large part of the American population.... Rather selective, in our political correctness, aren't we?


Those people that found that picture funny, in my opinion are 'Cunts' (assholes/fuckwits/wankers/morons). simple.



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the "c" word, like it or not, is a lot harsher than *bitch*... for women in general, I believe it is the MOST offensive word... it is to be rarely used.. And this comes from someone not easily offended by vulgarity or extreme foul language.



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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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I personally saw it as genuine political satire without a hint of so-called 'racism' that, like other 'isms', is regularly employed by the Left to put legitimate criticism beyond the pale. It would appear that a little perspective is in order.

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If it's okay to joke about Sarah Palin's teen daughter having sex with a baseball player, then it ought to also be okay to joke about Obama's skin color.



She chose who she had sex with, he didn't choose the colour of his skin.
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so-called 'racism' that, like other 'isms', is regularly employed by the Left to put legitimate criticism beyond the pale.



The Right does that all the time with "socialism", Jim.



You're doing apples and oranges. Socialism, like religion, is a belief system based on faith rather than impirical evidence, and thus deserving of critical anaysis. (As is capitalism, despite it having benefited more people than any other 'ism' in history.) Racism, on the other hand, is a pathology, and too often employed by the likes of Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to silence criticism. Why does disliking Obama's brand of politics make someone a racist? Has democracy become defined by bludeoning dissent into silent acquiescence for fear of being labeled racist or - that other favorite Leftie pejorative - fascist? (The latter a curious insult, considering that good Leftists Stalin and Mao killed far more people under far more repressive regimes.) It's like Vyshinsky branding anti-collectivists as 'deviationists,' despite their otherwise being doctrinal communists. So please, get a grip.

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so-called 'racism' that, like other 'isms', is regularly employed by the Left to put legitimate criticism beyond the pale.



The Right does that all the time with "socialism", Jim.



You're doing apples and oranges. Socialism, like religion, is a belief system based on faith rather than impirical evidence, and thus deserving of critical anaysis. (As is capitalism, despite it having benefited more people than any other 'ism' in history.) Racism, on the other hand, is a pathology, and too often employed by the likes of Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to silence criticism. Why does disliking Obama's brand of politics make someone a racist? Has democracy become defined by bludeoning dissent into silent acquiescence for fear of being labeled racist or - that other favorite Leftie pejorative - fascist? (The latter a curious insult, considering that good Leftists Stalin and Mao killed far more people under far more repressive regimes.) It's like Vyshinsky branding anti-collectivists as 'deviationists,' despite their otherwise being doctrinal communists.



The charge of "Socialism" is very much used as a bludgeon to end-point debate. A perfect example of this is the current debate in the US over universal health care. Over and over you hear (or read) opponents cry "That's socialism", which is designed to be a catch-all pejorative every bit as much as, for example, "That's blasphemy!"

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So please, get a grip.



No need to be personally insulting just because we disagree.

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The charge of "Socialism" is very much used as a bludgeon to end-point debate. A perfect example of this is the current debate in the US over universal health care. Over and over you hear (or read) opponents cry "That's socialism", which is designed to be a catch-all pejorative every bit as much as, for example, "That's blasphemy!"



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No need to be personally insulting just because we disagree.



Insults have no place in rational debate, and I'm surprised you interpreted it that way. (No, I'm not sorry, because it wasn't my intention to be insulting.) Perhaps I could have said, "You need to get a grip on the history of the socialist movement in order to understand why so many people take grave exception to a philosophy that demands an 'equitable division of labor,' which penalizes those with initiative and personal responsibility in favor of those who do not. As Margaret Thatcher observed: "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

The fact is, there will always be an underclass that will resist being lifted out of its ghettos and trashy trailer parks. Another fact is that the Left, in order to gain and retain power, needs an underclass dependent on handouts from the State. A third unpalatable fact is that Left-wing politicians enjoy power every bit as much as their philosophically more entrepreneurial opponents - the big difference being that the Left is far more hypocritical about it: in 25 years living in England, where the breed is pervasive, I've never seen a poor one. Theirs is the philosophy of the nanny state: "I know better, so don't question what I'm telling you to do, otherwise you'll be charged with racism, fascism, sexism, ageism and whatever else I can think of if those aren't enough to shut you up."

A convinced conservative, I nonetheless take considerable delight in ripping into the likes of Cheney, Rumsfeld and Ashcroft. Curiously, I've seldom come across those of the Left who will attack the policies/actions of their Left-wing co-religionists in positions of power. (Just as the vile Hitler is their favorite demon, but never, never Lenin, Stalin or Mao. Strange, that.)

So perhaps you should interpret getting a grip as a metaphor for balance and historical perspective. Which I recommend you take not as an insult but a path to enlightenment.
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so-called 'racism' that, like other 'isms', is regularly employed by the Left to put legitimate criticism beyond the pale.



The Right does that all the time with "socialism", Jim.



You're doing apples and oranges. Socialism, like religion, is a belief system based on faith rather than impirical evidence, and thus deserving of critical anaysis. (As is capitalism, despite it having benefited more people than any other 'ism' in history.) Racism, on the other hand, is a pathology, and too often employed by the likes of Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to silence criticism.



And how is that different exactly from members of the right making ridiculous charges of racism against Sotomayor?

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the "c" word, like it or not, is a lot harsher than *bitch*... for women in general, I believe it is the MOST offensive word... it is to be rarely used.. And this comes from someone not easily offended by vulgarity or extreme foul language.



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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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the "c" word, like it or not, is a lot harsher than *bitch*... for women in general, I believe it is the MOST offensive word... it is to be rarely used.. And this comes from someone not easily offended by vulgarity or extreme foul language.

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I meant to be harsh when i used it, it astounds me that being racist towards you own presedent is overshadowed by a word that is simply another word for a vagina.

If you allow yourself to be highly offended by a word that was appropriately used, then you ned to grow up a little.


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cunt
  /kʌnt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhnt] Show IPA
Use cunt in a Sentence
–noun Slang: Vulgar.
1. the vulva or vagina.
2. Disparaging and Offensive.
a. a woman.
b. a contemptible person.
3. sexual intercourse with a woman.



I have underlined the two possile definitions i was thinking of when I initially used that term, I stand by it. Notice the two definitions i highlighted aree not gender specific? If you are going to offendended by something, it is best that you understand ut further than what you grandmother may have told you!

There are certain boundries when it comes to humor, and the image this thread is based upon is well and truly over that boundry.

It is purely offensive and un unecessary!
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And how is that different exactly from members of the right making ridiculous charges of racism against Sotomayor?



To wit:

“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor.

Now, try transposing "wise Latina woman" and "white male", put it in the mouth of someone guilty of the latter and then imagine 'human rights' advocates suffering a collective case of the vapors. (You are following the logic here, aren't you?)

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the "c" word, like it or not, is a lot harsher than *bitch*... for women in general, I believe it is the MOST offensive word... it is to be rarely used.. And this comes from someone not easily offended by vulgarity or extreme foul language.

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I meant to be harsh when i used it, it astounds me that being racist towards you own presedent is overshadowed by a word that is simply another word for a vagina.

If you allow yourself to be highly offended by a word that was appropriately used, then you ned to grow up a little.


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cunt
  /kʌnt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhnt] Show IPA
Use cunt in a Sentence
–noun Slang: Vulgar.
1. the vulva or vagina.
2. Disparaging and Offensive.
a. a woman.
b. a contemptible person.
3. sexual intercourse with a woman.



I have underlined the two possile definitions i was thinking of when I initially used that term, I stand by it. Notice the two definitions i highlighted aree not gender specific? If you are going to offendended by something, it is best that you understand ut further than what you grandmother may have told you!

There are certain boundries when it comes to humor, and the image this thread is based upon is well and truly over that boundry.

It is purely offensive and un unecessary!



While I don't find it funny I don't think it is racist. ALL political leaders are mocked and there are cartoons in abundance of Tony Blair with huge ears, people chose to make a big thing out of Obama's skin colour - this is just a satirical impression of it. I've seen pictures of both George Bush and Robert Mugabe depicted as baboons - why is the picture of Mugabe decried as racist but not Bush?
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While I don't find it funny I don't think it is racist. ALL political leaders are mocked and there are cartoons in abundance of Tony Blair with huge ears, people chose to make a big thing out of Obama's skin colour - this is just a satirical impression of it. I've seen pictures of both George Bush and Robert Mugabe depicted as baboons - why is the picture of Mugabe decried as racist but not Bush?



Hog wash, the image had normal pictures of the other presedents, and an image of some googlie eyes and a black background.

Mugabe and bush as baboons, was comparing them to baboons, a carechature is a carecature, this image is basicallly calling your presedent a nigger.

It is not funny, there is no excuse for it and anyone that thinks it is funny is a racist cunt!
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It is not funny, there is no excuse for it and anyone that thinks it is funny is a racist cunt!



And anyone that thinks "cunt" is acceptable is a sexist pig.

Check yourself before you start calling out others.
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And anyone that thinks "cunt" is acceptable is a sexist pig.

Check yourself before you start calling out others.



If you actually wanted to learn anyhting from participating in these forums you would have learned that 'cunt' is not a gender specific term, go back and read the thread instead if being a short sighted post whore, and you may actualy learn something for a change.
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