Tax Day Tea Party?

[amma 0]

From their website.

What is this Tea Party effort all about?
The Tea Party effort is just a small piece of a much larger movement aimed at restoring the basic free-market principles our country was built on. The Constitution, for the most part, is being ignored by our current government and we intend on working together to correct the problem.

The Tea Party effort is a grassroots, collaborative volunteer organization made up of every day American citizens from across the country. We take pride in the fact that we've built a 50 state network of leaders and activists using nothing more than the internet, a few websites and a burning desire to restore freedom.



Has anyone else heard of this movement and if so will anyone be attending? I'm trying to attend in Atlanta, but they will be held all over the country.

http://taxdayteaparty.com/

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I've heard of them. Meh. They're upset but don't actually have anything to say other than, they're upset.

Typical example;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk

Listen to it. Sounds good huh?

What did he actually say and offer up as a solution to anything? Nothing that I can see.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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What did he actually say and offer up as a solution to anything? Nothing that I can see.

Hmm...we see a lot of that in the gun threads too.

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What did he actually say and offer up as a solution to anything? Nothing that I can see.

Hmm...we see a lot of that in the gun threads too.

Yes. Yes we do. When people aren't willing to even discuss the issues but continue to spout the same rhetoric and dogma passed down from their PACs, yeah, it's kind of difficult to hold a discussion.

There is a middle ground for any discussion. If you're willing to have one, so am I, but it has to start with the willingness to find a middle ground.

To date, I see very little of that from some people in the gun threads.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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To date, I see very little of that from some people in the gun threads.

Yes, we've learned the futility of compromise with liars who seeks to eliminate private gun ownership.

[rushmc 18]

It is tied to this.

No political parties, nothing negative. Just people getting together to take the country back from those in government. To restore constituional rule of this country. To take it back from both parties

http://theglennbeck912project.com/

Note; this is growing so fast that some cities are now trying to pull the permits for the gatherings.

It will make news when the big 4 cant ignore it anymore

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

It is about reading to learn. To teach ourselves and then to come together with those who have the same beliefs.

The book recomendations

http://theglennbeck912project.com/912reading/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112875499027114938790.0004647d9f61bab744fd4&ll=38.272689,-96.679687&spn=27.495109,57.128906&z=4&source=embed

Find one in your area

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[n23x 0]

I recommend you visit here. When Glen Beck's patriotism makes him cry, I cry too.

.jim

"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC

[FallingOsh 0]

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What did he actually say and offer up as a solution to anything? Nothing that I can see.

There's suggestions throughout the entire video.

What exactly did they say or offer up as a solution at the original Boston tea party? It was obviously still effective since we're discussing it a couple hundred years later.

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What exactly did they say or offer up as a solution at the original Boston tea party? It was obviously still effective since we're discussing it a couple hundred years later.

Oh, please tell me about the Boston Tea Party and what the actual central issue was. I'm dying to learn all about it!

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[SpeedRacer 1]

hmmm. don't know about this group. They call themselves the "Top Conservatives", whatever that means. It is puzzling what many of the "conservatives" are really supposed to be conserving.

Are they just as adamant against the Big Government of the Right as they are of the Big Government of the Left?

If they are, then I'm interested.

IN spite of what they may claim, neo-con war mongerers are NOT for small government.

War is ALWAYS about Big Government.


However, if this group is sincere & straight across the board, I am eager to listen.

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[Andrewwhyte 1]

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There is a middle ground for any discussion.

Really? What is the middle ground between your position and that of the Man-boy love association? What is the middle ground in the abortion debate? What about your position and that of those who think that controlling their woman is their own business? Are you willing to concede that slapping them around a bit is OK as long as they don't leave a mark? Just how far are you willing to move on this one?
To be honest the US gun debate is one that has a lot of middle ground. Very few 2nd (2nd?) ammendment protectors believe that individuals should have unfettered access to nukes, very few gun control advocates believe that their should be no guns allowed at all.

Edited to add: I have made some assumptions about your views on a couple of issues. If I am in error I am sure you will correct me.

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To be honest the US gun debate is one that has a lot of middle ground.

Well, at least you can be honest about something in that post.

As for correcting you and your assumptions, I'll try not to see either your original remarks or your edit as a personal attack but rather outrageous examples.

BTW, there IS middle ground on at least the abortion issue if a person doesn't take the position that life begins the moment the sperm enters the egg. It was only very recently in human history this was ever considered the start of human life by just about anyone.

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[dreamdancer 0]

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No political parties, nothing negative. Just people getting together to take the country back from those in government. To restore constituional rule of this country. To take it back from both parties.

what do you think of this analysis?

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There are a handful of former executives who have conceded that the bailouts are a waste. American International Group Inc.'s former chairman, Maurice R. Greenberg, told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Thursday that the effort to prop up the firm with $170 billion has "failed." He said the company should be restructured. AIG, he said, would have been better off filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection instead of seeking government help.

"These are signs of hyper decay," Nader said from his office in Washington. "You spend this kind of money and do not know if it will work."

"Bankrupt corporate capitalism is on its way to bankrupting the socialism that is trying to save it," Nader added. "That is the end stage. If they no longer have socialism to save them then we are into feudalism. We are into private police, gated communities and serfs with a 21st century nomenclature."

We will not be able to raise another 3 or 4 trillion dollars, especially with our commitments now totaling some $12 trillion, to fix the mess. It was only a couple of months ago that our expenditures totaled $9 trillion. And it was not long ago that such profligate government spending was unthinkable. There was an $800 billion limit placed on the Federal Reserve a year ago. The economic stimulus and the bailouts will not bring back our casino capitalism. And as the meltdown shows no signs of abating, and the bailouts show no sign of working, the recklessness and desperation of our capitalist overlords have increased. The cost, to the working and middle class, is becoming unsustainable. The Fed reported in March that households lost $5.1 trillion, or 9 percent, of their wealth in the last three months of 2008, the most ever in a single quarter in the 57-year history of record keeping by the central bank. For the full year, household wealth dropped $11.1 trillion, or about 18 percent. These figures did not record the decline of investments in the stock market, which has probably erased trillions more in the country's collective net worth.

The bullet to our head, inevitable if we do not radically alter course, will be sudden. We have been borrowing at the rate of more than $2 billion a day over the last 10 years, and at some point it has to stop. The moment China, the oil-rich states and other international investors stop buying treasury bonds the dollar will become junk. Inflation will rocket upward. We will become Weimar Germany. A furious and sustained backlash by a betrayed and angry populace, one unprepared intellectually and psychologically for collapse, will sweep aside the Democrats and most of the Republicans. A cabal of proto-fascist misfits, from Christian demagogues to simpletons like Sarah Palin to loudmouth talk show hosts, who we naively dismiss as buffoons, will find a following with promises of revenge and moral renewal. The elites, the ones with their Harvard Business School degrees and expensive vocabularies, will retreat into their sheltered enclaves of privilege and comfort. We will be left bereft and abandoned outside the gates.

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/135414/who_should_resist%2C_and_who_will_become_serfs/?page=entire

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[TomAiello 25]

I'm in.

Plus, ours is right next to the children's museum, so I can take my kids there, too.

-- Tom Aiello

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[rushmc 18]

Look, I know what Glen Beck wants this to become. In the end it will be the actions and tactics that determines what it becomes.

We all know there will be the nay sayers. I beleive they maninly will be those who want to have, and believe that, big government is the answer to all problems.

So, you, as will everybody else, will have to draw your own conclusions as to what this "movement" will become. I feel, at this time, the intentions are good but, intentions dont make things happen.

Me? I am going to Des Moines on the 18th watch and learn what this group is about. I will learn and see more then. Until that time I will keep an open mind. I know there are those that will try and kill this before it even starts. Those are the onew whos "intentions" I will question

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jcd11235 0]

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It is tied to this.

No political parties, nothing negative. Just people getting together to take the country back from those in government. To restore constituional rule of this country. To take it back from both parties

http://theglennbeck912project.com/

Note; this is growing so fast that some cities are now trying to pull the permits for the gatherings.

It will make news when the big 4 cant ignore it anymore

Excellent commentary on the 912 Project

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What exactly did they say or offer up as a solution at the original Boston tea party? It was obviously still effective since we're discussing it a couple hundred years later.

Oh, please tell me about the Boston Tea Party and what the actual central issue was. I'm dying to learn all about it!

That wooshing sound is the point I was making.

They didn't sit down and offer up a logical resolution to the tea act. They threw a boatload (or 3 boatloads) into the water in protest.

The details of the Boston Tea Party are not my point. The symbol of unrest and resistance is the key part there.

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[SpeedRacer 1]

With the exception of Ron Paul & Pat Buchanan, where are all the "concerned Conservatives" when Big Government is throwing away taxpayer dollars on optional wars?

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[dreamdancer 0]

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But hysterical warnings of government gun grabs and a socialist takeover of the U.S. are no longer the sole proprietary interest of fringe players like Jones. In the Obama era, Jones' conspiracy theories have graduated to primetime on Fox News. And radicals like Poplawski are tuning in. Indeed, according to the Anti-Defamation League, the alleged killer posted a YouTube clip to Stormfront of top-rated Fox News host Glenn Beck contemplating the existence of FEMA-managed concentration camps. ("He backed out," Poplawski wrote cryptically beside the video.) Three weeks later, Poplawski posted another Youtube clip to Stormfront, this time of a video blogger advocating "Tea Parties," or grassroots conservative protests organized by Beck and Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich (see here and here) against President Barack Obama's bailout plan.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/135592/did_paranoid_right-wing_media_fuel_the_pittsburgh_cop_killer%27s_rage/

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[rushmc 18]

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But hysterical warnings of government gun grabs and a socialist takeover of the U.S. are no longer the sole proprietary interest of fringe players like Jones. In the Obama era, Jones' conspiracy theories have graduated to primetime on Fox News. And radicals like Poplawski are tuning in. Indeed, according to the Anti-Defamation League, the alleged killer posted a YouTube clip to Stormfront of top-rated Fox News host Glenn Beck contemplating the existence of FEMA-managed concentration camps. ("He backed out," Poplawski wrote cryptically beside the video.) Three weeks later, Poplawski posted another Youtube clip to Stormfront, this time of a video blogger advocating "Tea Parties," or grassroots conservative protests organized by Beck and Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich (see here and here) against President Barack Obama's bailout plan.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/135592/did_paranoid_right-wing_media_fuel_the_pittsburgh_cop_killer%27s_rage/

Nice op ed but
completly misleading as to what this is about.

But, I I stated before, the big government supporters will do this kind of shit because, if it catches, they will be out of power. and that goes for both parties.

So, read the reviews, or, find out what it is really about. This is what I plan to do.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[TomAiello 25]

Ah, yes, now I see the light. Clearly anyone who is concerned about taxes, or who is insane enough to question the wisdom of the administration, must be a hysterical right wing maniac.

In fact, it's clear now that questioning government policy ought to be enough to disqualify one from firearms ownership. Because if you can't be trusted to obey your masters, how can you be trusted with weapons?

-- Tom Aiello

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Ah, yes, now I see the light. Clearly anyone who is concerned about taxes, or who is insane enough to question the wisdom of the administration, must be a hysterical right wing maniac.

In fact, it's clear now that questioning government policy ought to be enough to disqualify one from firearms ownership. Because if you can't be trusted to obey your masters, how can you be trusted with weapons?

Straw man.

Is that the best you folks on the right can do?

If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

[TomAiello 25]

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Straw man.

You're comparing a group of Americans peaceably assembling to protest government policy with a criminal firing a rifle at police officers--and I'm the one who is creating a straw man?

-- Tom Aiello

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