shropshire 0 #76 January 11, 2009 100% correct (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #77 January 11, 2009 Quote Quote I don't know the OP and this is in no way a commentary on him... but sometimes people aren't warmly received because they aren't warm to others. I have also seen people that no one really liked come out...And after they came out they claimed no one liked them since they were gay. That was just not that case...They didn't like them since they didn't like them. The person being gay had nothing to do with it. "Why do people take an instant dislike to me?" "It saves time ..." (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 6 #78 January 11, 2009 chickin never said he didn't feel welcome, he said he felt welcome just didnt feel like he was part of the family. Quote I would have to say that the vast majority of gay people who read that were probably offended. I can not dispute that with any degree of certainty, I am not gay. are you gay, have I offended you??? my response was not intended to be mean spirited towards chikin or any other gay for that matter. I have already made it clear that I am not fazed by gay people.if you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #79 January 11, 2009 I've generally found the sport very accepting of different people. Except freefliers and RW guys. Thats never gonna work Keep them apart! I couldn't care less if someone on the DZ was gay and I don't think many other people could. That doesn't mean they wont take the piss though. I've always worked in male orientated environments. I was a mechanic then a mechanical engineer. In those environments if someone likes you they often express it with piss taking and practical jokes. When I was a young apprentice I didn't know how to take it and it used to sometimes upset me. But then I grew up and gave as good as I got without feeling all sorry for myself. By all means mention it in conversation if the progression of the chat somehow goes that way, its who you are after all, but a big public *attention please* announcement will probably make people think your the one with the issue about your identity than anyone else. Just keep it cool, even if it is hard at times hearing things. As you get to know people and people know you I'm sure it'll change. people often say things in jest that they don't actually mean and if they realised they were likely to offend someone they wouldn't bother. Mild offending is usual though! Thats just called banter! ...unless its clearly nasty. If you really don't like peoples behaviour then challenge it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #80 January 11, 2009 Quote Quote Quote I don't know the OP and this is in no way a commentary on him... but sometimes people aren't warmly received because they aren't warm to others. I have also seen people that no one really liked come out...And after they came out they claimed no one liked them since they were gay. That was just not that case...They didn't like them since they didn't like them. The person being gay had nothing to do with it. "Why do people take an instant dislike to me?" "It saves time ..." LMAOWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #81 January 11, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote I don't know the OP and this is in no way a commentary on him... but sometimes people aren't warmly received because they aren't warm to others. I have also seen people that no one really liked come out...And after they came out they claimed no one liked them since they were gay. That was just not that case...They didn't like them since they didn't like them. The person being gay had nothing to do with it. "Why do people take an instant dislike to me?" "It saves time ..." LMAO Thanks - I got that one from a Yorkshireman - he doesn't say much, but when he does.. By 'eck 'e's reet. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpsteve 0 #82 January 11, 2009 Porpoishead, yes I am and although I found the comment somewhat offensive it did not really bother me. I totally recognize that you did not intend to be mean spirited or offensive and know that you had stated in prior posts that you did not give a shit that someone was gay. But I just chose to call out the fact that referring to someone as a pillow biter would probably make them think you are really a homophobe. Not really the term you want to use to make people feel accepted..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 6 #83 January 11, 2009 right on steve, my mistake bud. I will make an effort to keep it politically correct in the future. its often difficult to comprehend someones disposition from an inter-web page. I certainly have no intention of making anyone feel uneasy, or rejected. I apologize to the gays if I have offended any of you. peace from the fishhead!!!if you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #84 January 11, 2009 Quote I'm pretty indifferent to gay jokes That's just because you can't hear 'em. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #85 January 11, 2009 Quote right on steve, my mistake bud. I will make an effort to keep it politically correct in the future. its often difficult to comprehend someones disposition from an inter-web page. I certainly have no intention of making anyone feel uneasy, or rejected. I apologize to the gays if I have offended any of you. peace from the fishhead!!! Oh christ..... Just go get drunk and bite a pillow or two already... that goes for the rest of the guys too... quite a few probably already have anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #86 January 11, 2009 I don't agree with homosexuality but I would definitely jump with you. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #87 January 11, 2009 More love in the world is far better than the alternative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #88 January 11, 2009 Something I've noticed, particularly in the under 40 crowd, is the opinion that jokes about race, gender, sexual orientation, etc... are inappropriate, UNLESS the person telling the joke happens to be a member of that particular group. I hear more jokes about women from women, jokes about Jews from Jews, jokes about Catholics from Catholics, and jokes about homosexuals from homosexuals than I do from people outside those groups. We all view new experiences through the lens of our past, and it sounds like your past experiences may have left you hypersensitive. So, did you ever stop to think that the tellers of the jokes you heard at the bonfire might not be laughing at you... they might be laughing at themselves? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #89 January 11, 2009 Sorry, but what's not to agree? How other people live their lives is nowt to do with the rest of us. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #90 January 11, 2009 Quote Quote o.k. fucking women they should all be killed. feel better now? Sure. American women are great for sport-fucking but make terrible wives. Do you feel better now? can i use that as a sig-line!? back on topic: i'd rather jump with you than with some straight skydivers in fact.. at least you're open and not an arse hole that speaks shit behind some other peoples back! oh, and there's fuckwits in all walks of life.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #91 January 11, 2009 Quote Sorry, but what's not to agree? How other people live their lives is nowt to do with the rest of us. Unless your religion forces you to take an stance on issues that has nothing to do with you. Welcome yo the world of religious intolerance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 6 #92 January 11, 2009 Quote at least you're open and not an arse hole that speaks shit behind some other peoples back! Wink with all due respect he is on some web page weeping about how he feels violated by some jokes at a bonfire somewhere. should of just handled his business at the bonfire and let the offending party know that lines had indeed been crossed.. then everybody would know without a doubt where they stand.if you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #93 January 11, 2009 Quote You can get banned from the bonfire? Wow. not even i got to manage that.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #94 January 11, 2009 QuoteTalk to Keith..... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?username=Keith; His profile says it all. No kiddin'. Aside from being a good jumper and well liked, Keith's had the nerve to start up a thread of "fag" jokes and invited one & all to unload the worst ones they knew. And there were some real scorchers. Do a search, if you can get the crappy search machine to work.... Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #95 January 12, 2009 +1 for the "grow a thicker skin" contingent. Figure out how you want to be known at the dropzone - 1. A gay man that happens to skydive. 2. A skydiver who happens to be gay.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowball 0 #96 January 12, 2009 A guy decides that maybe he'd like to have a pet and goes to a pet shop. After looking around he spots a parrot sitting on a little perch; it doesn't have any feet or legs. The guy says out loud, "Geez, I wonder what happened to this parrot?" "I was born this way," says the parrot. "I'm a defective parrot." "Ha, ha," the guy laughs. "It sounded like this parrot actually understood what I said and answered me." "I understand every word," says the parrot. "I am a highly intelligent and thoroughly educated bird." "Yeah?" the guy asks. "Then answer this: how do you hang onto your perch without any feet?" "Well," the parrot says, "this is a little embarrassing, but since you asked, I will tell you. I wrap my little parrot penis around this wooden bar, kind of like a little hook. You can't see it because of my feathers." "Wow," says the guy, "you really can understand and answer; can't you?" "Of course. I speak both Spanish and English. I can converse with reasonable competence on almost any subject: politics, religion, sports, physics, philosophy. And I am especially good at ornithology. You should buy me; I am a great companion." The guy looks at the $200.00 price tag. He says. "I can't afford that." "Pssst," the parrot hisses, motioning the guy over with one wing. "Nobody wants me because I don't have any feet. You can get me for $20.00; just make an offer." The guy offers twenty dollars and walks out with the parrot. Weeks go by and the parrot is sensational. He's funny; he's interesting; he's a great pal, he understands everything, sympathizes, and gives good advice. The guy is delighted. One day the guy comes home from work and the parrot says, "Pssst," and motions him over with one wing. The guy goes up close to the cage. "I don't know if I should tell you this or not," says the parrot, "but it's about your lover and the mailman." "What?" asks the guy. "Well," the parrot says, "when the mailman came to the door today, your lover greeted him in a pair of briefs that showed everything and kissed him on the mouth." "What happened then?" asks the guy. "Then the mailman came into the house and put his hand on your lovers crotch and began petting him all over," reports the parrot. "My God!" the guy says. "Then what?" "Then he pulled down the briefs, got down on his knees and began to lick him, starting with his chest, slowly going down and down." The parrot pauses for a long time... "What happened? What happened?" says the frantic guy. "That's what pisses me off. I don't know." said the parrott. "I got a hard-on, and fell off my fucking perch." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alge 0 #97 January 12, 2009 Quote [About using "pillow biter" instead of "gay"] Not saying it is a big deal or that you meant it that way but I would have to say that the vast majority of gay people who read that were probably offended. Nope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #98 January 12, 2009 I think you should out yourself. I'm about out of jokes and snide remarks to make about the women my hetero friends date and I could recycle the whole repertoire en masse to disparage a homo friend. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakyrat 1 #99 January 12, 2009 yeah Dave, You could recycle that Tandem joke you told several years ago. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #100 January 12, 2009 Is this website gay friendly? www.gayskydiving.com You'd have to know who owns that website to see the humor behind it. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites