normiss 620 #76 November 24, 2008 wow. OJ was charged with murder. This man wasn't. The wife was charged with manslaughter. HUGE legal difference between manslaughter and murder. Apparently kallend and yourself are re-writing Texas legal codes though. Seeking the death penalty I'm sure. Let's just keep-a-killin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,619 #77 November 24, 2008 Quote wow. OJ was charged with murder. This man wasn't. The wife was charged with manslaughter. HUGE legal difference between manslaughter and murder. Apparently kallend and yourself are re-writing Texas legal codes though. Seeking the death penalty I'm sure. Let's just keep-a-killin! I predict that your position that whatever the government says is true will come back to haunt you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,379 #78 November 24, 2008 >OJ was charged with murder. OJ was cleared of the charge of murder by a jury. By your definition, therefore, he was innocent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 620 #79 November 24, 2008 Technically true. But in this case nobody was charged with murder as the grand jury decided it was not appropriate. No kallend, I don't believe everything my government feeds us - I don't drink their kool-aid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #80 November 24, 2008 QuoteThere was NO rape. There was NO crime to stop. You are STILL avoiding answering the question. Like normal you avoid answering things that proves your point is silly. QuoteI take it, then, that in murder for hire situation you'd be OK if the hit-men get off scot free . Do you, or do you not admit that there is a difference between trying to stop a crime and being hired to commit one?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #81 November 24, 2008 QuoteIs adultery a crime in Texas? Only if you're caught! And everyone should note that if the wife killed the husband or the husband killed the wife, then they would be charged. A few years ago a dentist ran over her dentist husband in a hotel parking lot several times after catching the husband and his girlfriend checking into the hotel. The wife didn't go after the girlfriend, only the husband. Sad thing was their daughter was in the car pleading with her mother to stop. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #82 November 24, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo there was no crime except the homicide, and the trigger man got off. OK. Still avoiding the question huh? Would it kill you to be honest just once and not dodge simple questions? Rape is. He was told she was being raped. Do you not recognize a difference between stopping a crime and being hired to commit one? If so, then your other bit was nothing more than an emotional distraction. There was NO rape. There was NO crime to stop. If I tell someone that you are robbing me does that entitle them to shoot you dead? in texas and some other areas yes. great crime deterant isn't, if you could die from your actions. may make a couple people think twice. the lack of enforcement to punishments is imho the main cause of skyrocketing crime rates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,619 #83 November 24, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo there was no crime except the homicide, and the trigger man got off. OK. Still avoiding the question huh? Would it kill you to be honest just once and not dodge simple questions? Rape is. He was told she was being raped. Do you not recognize a difference between stopping a crime and being hired to commit one? If so, then your other bit was nothing more than an emotional distraction. There was NO rape. There was NO crime to stop. If I tell someone that you are robbing me does that entitle them to shoot you dead? in texas and some other areas yes. great crime deterant isn't, if you could die from your actions. may make a couple people think twice. the lack of enforcement to punishments is imho the main cause of skyrocketing crime rates. Do you not think there's a duty to establish whether or not there ACTUALLY is a REAL crime before resorting to gunfire? If everytime somone cries "WOLF" there's an immediate outbreak of shooting at the supposed wolf, I think we will be in a pretty bad way.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,619 #84 November 24, 2008 Quote Quote There was NO rape. There was NO crime to stop. You are STILL avoiding answering the question. Like normal you avoid answering things that proves your point is silly. Quote I take it, then, that in murder for hire situation you'd be OK if the hit-men get off scot free . Do you, or do you not admit that there is a difference between trying to stop a crime and being hired to commit one? Not relevant in this case, since there was no rape. Take you hypotheticals elsewhere.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWernig 0 #85 November 24, 2008 Don't sleep with married women and you don't have to worry about their husbands!!!!! Nathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,379 #86 November 24, 2008 >Don't sleep with married women and you don't have to worry about their husbands! Unfortunately, the ones that will lie about things like being raped will also lie about things like being married. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #87 November 24, 2008 Quote Do you not think there's a duty to establish whether or not there ACTUALLY is a REAL crime before resorting to gunfire? If everytime somone cries "WOLF" there's an immediate outbreak of shooting at the supposed wolf, I think we will be in a pretty bad way. If the wife (wolf) had a history of screaming rape or the husband knew she cheated in the past then the argument would be valid. I'm sure he believed what his wife was saying. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyjunkySean 0 #88 November 25, 2008 God bless texas LMAO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 620 #89 November 25, 2008 This is the most accurate statement in this entire thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #90 November 25, 2008 Quote That is not a defensive act it's offensive. On this one, your thought process was offensive.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #91 November 25, 2008 Quote Don't sleep with married women and you don't have to worry about their husbands!!!!! It has been my personal experience that some husbands do want to do that whole threesome thing... they usually get the wife to ask since they are too intimidated and chicken themselves.So yes.. I guess you still have to worry about the husband.... hopefully he rolls over and goes to sleep early Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #92 November 25, 2008 Quote The man was leaving and presented no threat to his wife. Not according to his wife.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 1 #93 November 25, 2008 QuoteFair care to answer this: "No....but I think you know the difference between trying to stop a crime and being hired to commit one. " Responsible gun ownership should include the ability to deter a crime by showing your gun and only firing it when absolutely necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #94 November 25, 2008 Damn i love Texas! Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #95 November 25, 2008 QuoteResponsible gun ownership should include the ability to deter a crime by showing your gun and only firing it when absolutely necessary. Do what now? Responsibility in regards to carrying a weapon is only drawing the weapon in a deadly force scenario. Drawing your weapon in situations outside of a deadly force scenario is a prime example of a lack of maturity and a lack of responsibility.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 1 #96 November 25, 2008 QuoteQuoteResponsible gun ownership should include the ability to deter a crime by showing your gun and only firing it when absolutely necessary. Do what now? Responsibility in regards to carrying a weapon is only drawing the weapon in a deadly force scenario. Drawing your weapon in situations outside of a deadly force scenario is a prime example of a lack of maturity and a lack of responsibility. In your opinion, was this a "deadly force scenario" then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #97 November 25, 2008 I wasn't there, I don't know exactly what occurred and am unable to comment specifically on this case; however, an aggravated sexual assault can be considered a deadly force scenario. Once again, though, people are looking for a black and white argument or example. There really is no such thing as a true black and white in the law. You only think that (in black and white in terms of situations and law) if you're a new recruit just starting the academy.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 1 #98 November 25, 2008 QuoteI wasn't there, I don't know exactly what occurred and am unable to comment specifically on this case; however, an aggravated sexual assault can be considered a deadly force scenario. Once again, though, people are looking for a black and white argument or example. There really is no such thing as a true black and white in the law. You only think that (in black and white in terms of situations and law) if you're a new recruit just starting the academy. That's a cop out. A deadly force scenario is if you see that the other person is armed. And none of the reports so far support that to be the case. The victim was unarmed and trying to get away. In your own words, the husband's action was "a prime example of a lack of maturity and a lack of responsibility". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #99 November 25, 2008 QuoteA deadly force scenario is if you see that the other person is armed Not always. You don't have to have a weapon to pose a significant threat to life. You're trying to think simply in black and white. You're telling me what happened like you were there or you have read the court documents directly. Could you link the court documents or simply give us the play by play as you physically witnessed it? Oh, wait, you're reciting what you read in the media? Wow, that's reliable!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #100 November 25, 2008 It's not just Texas. In the wayback, when I was in school, we had to read a Georgia case where a man was acquitted of killing his wife. His defense was that he had walked in on her in the act with another man. At the time, this was still valid precedent in Georgia (I'm not sure if it's been overturned now, or not). There are still places in this country where "he needed killin'" is a fairly valid defense. This is both a good and bad thing.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
