Belgian_Draft 0 #101 November 20, 2008 Quote Interesting. I sold one today. I had bought a six-pack of Sig '40's from a friend of mine with a FFL - decided I could let one go when another friend just HAD to have one. With all those nasty handguns laying around, the crime rate in your house must be thru the roof!HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #102 November 20, 2008 This is just a cheesy Mossburg 12 gauge...marine version... in its own sealed... floating orange marine survival kit TUBE... My old one that I bought back in 1980 almost has to exist in a permanent oil bath for the slide to function after spending so many years in a salt water environment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #103 November 20, 2008 Quote Quote Interesting. I sold one today. I had bought a six-pack of Sig '40's from a friend of mine with a FFL - decided I could let one go when another friend just HAD to have one. With all those nasty handguns laying around, the crime rate in your house must be thru the roof! Strawman. The problem is ridiculously easy access by criminals and nutters, straw purchasers (criminals), and careless people who fail to secure their firearms against theft. I don't believe Jeanne falls into any of those categories.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #104 November 20, 2008 Quote Pssst I bought another one today Don't you know by now what kallend has taught us: that where there are more guns there is more crime. And since you have just increased the size of your personal arsenal, your home is now more likely to become a crime scene. When are you gonna learn? Heck, my home should be a veritable crime wave. But it's not. Maybe there's something wrong with kallend's theory... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #105 November 20, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Interesting. I sold one today. I had bought a six-pack of Sig '40's from a friend of mine with a FFL - decided I could let one go when another friend just HAD to have one. With all those nasty handguns laying around, the crime rate in your house must be thru the roof! Strawman. The problem is ridiculously easy access by criminals and nutters, straw purchasers (criminals), and careless people who fail to secure their firearms against theft. I don't believe Jeanne falls into any of those categories. Please elaborate on how one does this with 100% certainty. If I go on vacation what's to keep a theif from breaking into my place and taking the time to break open my safe and STEAL my guns? i dont buy this argument one bit. If someone steals guns it won't matter how secured they were. People are still going to say how irresponsible the owner is for not securing them better.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #106 November 20, 2008 Quote And since you have just increased the size of your personal arsenal, your home is now more likely to become a crime scene. When are you gonna learn? Heck, my home should be a veritable crime wave. But it's not. Maybe there's something wrong with kallend's First off.... all the guns are in safes( really good fireproof gun safes) ( other than what I am carrying at the momentThe ammo has a separate safe. ( just in case there is a fire.. I do not want combustibles in the same safe with the weapons) Next they would have to get into the safe... and that might just prove lethal in and of itself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zee 0 #107 November 20, 2008 Quote Apparently you didn't read all the way to the end of the report. It's O.K. You can share your findings with the rest of the class Action©Sports Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #108 November 20, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Interesting. I sold one today. I had bought a six-pack of Sig '40's from a friend of mine with a FFL - decided I could let one go when another friend just HAD to have one. With all those nasty handguns laying around, the crime rate in your house must be thru the roof! Strawman. The problem is ridiculously easy access by criminals and nutters, straw purchasers (criminals), and careless people who fail to secure their firearms against theft. I don't believe Jeanne falls into any of those categories. I wasn't making an argument, so there is no "strawman", ok? Ok. It is obvious you could not tell, so I will explain it to you....my remark was sarcasm. Sarcasm pointed at those who feel more guns = more crime, who ever those people may be. Finally, I was responding to normiss, not Amazon.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #109 November 20, 2008 Did you buy one of those that we talked about or something completely different?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #110 November 21, 2008 Quote Quote And since you have just increased the size of your personal arsenal, your home is now more likely to become a crime scene. When are you gonna learn? First off.... all the guns are in safes( really good fireproof gun safes) ( other than what I am carrying at the momentThe ammo has a separate safe. ( just in case there is a fire.. I do not want combustibles in the same safe with the weapons) Next they would have to get into the safe... and that might just prove lethal in and of itself See? You just bought the gun, and already you're talking about breaking and entering, burglary, vandalism, fire and homicide. All because you choose to own those evil guns. Shame on you for fulfilling the kallend-prophecy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 620 #111 November 21, 2008 All he has taught me is how to spell. Yet he still gets it wrong ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #112 November 21, 2008 Nah I did not buy one of those yet.... I have been looking and am not in a real big hurry. I did see a very nice Colt version..... I also saw a WAY too cool Colt AR-15 M4 style.... in 9MM... I had never seen one of those before... I was wandering around the shop..... This was kind of.. ok that is kewl.. I can put it next to the Avon liferaft and the signal kit and survival suits on the boat....I got one of these... in the Orange case in the Marinecoat... my old one in blue... all the blue is gone long ago. http://mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=28 What can I say.. I take my survival fairly seriously Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #113 November 21, 2008 I have a Mossberg 500 special, but I hadn't seen the shotgun in a can before. That's pretty cool. That 500 is a lot of fun to shoot and makes a nice home defense weapon. With some training and the right ammunition choice it makes a great breaching shotgun too!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #114 November 21, 2008 I have always taken my 500 Mossberg cruising with me. I have seen very large fishies around a raft before.....and you never know what sort of two legged predator you might run across out there in international waters as well. but the can for the weapon and the ammo.... so it floats.. yeah... I thought way too cool.. I was impressedAs a side note.. its already loaded 3" magnums.. buck...slug....buck...slug....buck.....nothing in the chamber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #115 November 21, 2008 I've personally grown to be more of a fan of Buck Buck Slug Slug Slug with 3 Bucks and 2 Slugs on a 5-rd sleeve on the outside of the gun. That way you have the more commonly needed rounds ready to go, but can pump 3-times to skip straight to slugs, or can fire twice and hand drop 3 more Bucks when needed. That's just me, though, and others will tell you to load it differently.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #116 November 22, 2008 My next gun is going to be one of these: http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/cdp/compact_cdp_II/ I'm trying to decide between the Compact CDP, the Ultra CDP and the Ultra Carry II (stainless). I've tried them all at the range, I love them all, and I can't decide! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #117 November 22, 2008 I've got one of these babies, and I know how to use it. Nobody, but nobody, fucks with me. http://i.sunfitters.com/3/ks402-1-z.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #118 November 22, 2008 Quote Pssst I bought another one today I bought two One like yours minus the cool floaty thingy and pistol grip, and another that is like the colt you saw only made by bushmaster. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #119 November 24, 2008 I had some friends over from Europe. We were talking about life in both places. They said the biggest thing they expected to find but did not was they were expecting to hear gunshots all the time. They had been here about a week and had not heard a single gunshot. They were amazed. It just goes to show that perceptions are not always correct. People in many States do carry. Some legally, some illegally. In most cases it is not the people who carry legally that you need to worry about."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #120 November 24, 2008 Come on Ron, of course they wouldn't hear gun shots. Everyone here uses silencers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #121 November 26, 2008 I decided to stick with .308 {I have few rounds for it} but still get one of those scary looking black guns....AND they just happened to have 12 Magazines for the HK too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannydan 0 #122 November 27, 2008 I should not have even opened this thread... muchless typed this here post... happy tday all.. peace and blu1s to yazz : dd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #123 November 28, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote39% of American homes have firearms. Our homicide rate is 8.95/100K. In Canada, 29.5% of the homes have firearms, about 3/4's as many, yet their homicide rate is 1.99/100K, or less than a 1/4 of ours. Does anyone have the statistics for Switzerland handy? Switzerland is high gun ownership and low gun crime. A rather simplistic half-truth. The nature of gun ownership and firearms training in Switzerland is very different from that in the USA. Apples and oranges. i wrote a huge post on that and then my internet explorer decided to fuck up on me.. basically, you can get rifle-training from as early as 15 or 16yrs old on. switzerland has a militia, so practically you'll find at least one army rifle in every household. in the last couple of years, army rifles have repeatedly been used in amok runs, random killings and cases of domestic violence. that is a rather new phenomenon. so, politicians are trying to not allow that rifle/pistol hometaking of army issued weapons anymore. why that occured, one can only speculate. maybe immigration is playing a role. that shooting-practice has a long tradition here. my shooting club is way over 100yrs old. but people wont carry their guns around, they usually stay at home, to have it loaded is forbidden.. you can take your gun to the range, the gunsmith and to your military service. carrying it around for the sake of it is not allowed. last year, 51 have been murdered, we had 152 tries. 35 times a gun has been used, 66 times a knife, and 18 times the victims got strangled. 210 violators have been named, 187 of those were male, 112 were foreigners.. switzerland has about 7'000'000 citizens. numbers for bodily harm: 9644 cases, 54 including a gun, 487 knifes, 8951 violators all together, 7643 out of those were male, 4755 foreigners..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #124 November 28, 2008 Quote in the last couple of years, army rifles have repeatedly been used in amok runs, random killings and cases of domestic violence. that is a rather new phenomenon. so, politicians are trying to not allow that rifle/pistol hometaking of army issued weapons anymore. why that occured, one can only speculate. maybe immigration is playing a role. Americans eh?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #125 November 28, 2008 Quotebasically, you can get rifle-training from as early as 15 or 16yrs old on. switzerland has a militia, so practically you'll find at least one army rifle in every household. Hey how easy is it to find some of the goodies for the outdated SR 1911 or the K31....stuff like bayonets... muzzle covers.. slings... And what does 7.5x55 cost locally Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
