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Police shoot and kill a young man who was married last week and expecting a child in December. His crime? Carrying a curtain rod out of his house to chase off some teenagers who had jumped over his fence while fleeing from an officer.

Oops, their bad

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

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That is a shame. Looks like the officer got trigger happy.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[Trent 0]

This is really a tragedy. It's terrible.

Just out of curiosity, were you looking for a discussion about this?

If so, I really don't think the officer wanted to kill an innocent man or that seeing someone with what could be mistaken for a rifle in the dark would constitute getting "trigger happy". That doesn't change that it is horrible that it happened.

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I don't think there's a ton to learn from it, other than reinforcement of the maxim, "Discretion is the better part of valor."

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

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I don't think there's a ton to learn from it, other than reinforcement of the maxim, "Discretion is the better part of valor."

I'm sure he thought he was defending his life at the time. I'll bet there were things he could have done differently. It's a tragedy.

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[kallend 1,623]

Carrying a broomstick while black - summary execution.

But at least he wasn't shot as many times as Amadou Diallo, who was shot for carrying a loaded wallet while black.

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[billvon 2,396]

>I'm sure he thought he was defending his life at the time. I'll bet there were
>things he could have done differently.

True. Had he been carrying a gun, he might have had an opportunity to kill the officers before they killed him. (Or as they killed him.)

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Carrying a broomstick while black - summary execution.

But at least he wasn't shot as many times as Amadou Diallo, who was shot for carrying a loaded wallet while black.

I thought you were a college Perfessor, edumacated and all that.

Please don't dent the planet.

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Carrying a broomstick while black - summary execution.

But at least he wasn't shot as many times as Amadou Diallo, who was shot for carrying a loaded wallet while black.

I thought you were a college Perfessor, edumacated and all that.

Thats what you get for thinking.

Nothing opens like a Deere!

You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!

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True. Had he been carrying a gun, he might have had an opportunity to kill the officers before they killed him. (Or as they killed him.)

So they set out to kill an innocent guy then? That's the rule, not the exception?

What exactly do you want to say?

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[billvon 2,396]

>So they set out to kill an innocent guy then?

Not at all! But surely everyone has a right to self defense, correct?

And sure, the cops would have shot him anyway. But he might have gotten one of them before they took him down. Heck, if the cop had been alone, he might even have wound up still standing. That would have been a good thing, right?

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I'm still not really sure what your point is. This sounds like an accident that took place during a heated moment for the officer. I never said the poor deceased guy did anything wrong. I think it was a tragic accident and the officer fired on what he thought was a threat. Given the circumstances, I can see how that happened. It would have been good if it never happened or if everyone survived or if those guys hadn't run or committed the crime in the first place.

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[billvon 2,396]

>I'm still not really sure what your point is.

OK, I'll make it a direct question.

Would it have been preferable for that guy to have been carrying a gun, so he could have shot the cop before the cop shot him?

[Trent 0]

No. Then we'd have 2 people shooting it out and possibly killed. As it stands, we have one guy that was accidentally killed. It also would have made it even easier to understand why the officer may have felt threatened. Instead of something that may have looked like a rifle, it would have been one.

Hypothetically, if the guy had shot the officer because it was dark and he saw someone in his yard running towards him with a weapon... I'd be saying the same thing. It's terrible and a very unfortunate accident and I understand how it might have happened.

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[billvon 2,396]

>No.

So in this case, it was better that the innocent victim of a shooting was unarmed. (I actually have no problem with that angle, but I have a feeling there are some people here who might object rather strenuously to that opinion.)

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So in this case, it was better that the innocent victim of a shooting was unarmed. (I actually have no problem with that angle, but I have a feeling there are some people here who might object rather strenuously to that opinion.)

Not better. You asked if it would have been preferable. It would have been preferable if it never happened, but I don't think that him actually being armed or not would have made the situation any better for anyone.

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So in this case, it was better that the innocent victim of a shooting was unarmed. (I actually have no problem with that angle, but I have a feeling there are some people here who might object rather strenuously to that opinion.)

Not better. You asked if it would have been preferable. It would have been preferable if it never happened, but I don't think that him actually being armed or not would have made the situation any better for anyone.

It might have made it better for him.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

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No. Then we'd have 2 people shooting it out and possibly killed. As it stands, we have one guy that was accidentally killed. It also would have made it even easier to understand why the officer may have felt threatened. Instead of something that may have looked like a rifle, it would have been one.

Hypothetically, if the guy had shot the officer because it was dark and he saw someone in his yard running towards him with a weapon... I'd be saying the same thing. It's terrible and a very unfortunate accident and I understand how it might have happened.

Trent...very soon you'll see that folks like Bill and Kallend don't like law enforcement personnel and always assume the worst about them in any situation. Sad, really. They paint with a broad brush but will have kittens if anyone does it to them.

Please don't dent the planet.

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"It's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six" ~ Booker T Washington

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No. Then we'd have 2 people shooting it out and possibly killed. As it stands, we have one guy that was accidentally killed. It also would have made it even easier to understand why the officer may have felt threatened. Instead of something that may have looked like a rifle, it would have been one.

Hypothetically, if the guy had shot the officer because it was dark and he saw someone in his yard running towards him with a weapon... I'd be saying the same thing. It's terrible and a very unfortunate accident and I understand how it might have happened.

Trent...very soon you'll see that folks like Bill and Kallend don't like law enforcement personnel .

I used to be one

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I used to be one

A kitten?? NO WAY! You shoulda left that part in the quote. It'd be funnier.

Anyway, if they do hate law enforcement people, that's their problem. I don't think they do, they just like to argue.

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No. Then we'd have 2 people shooting it out and possibly killed. As it stands, we have one guy that was accidentally killed. It also would have made it even easier to understand why the officer may have felt threatened. Instead of something that may have looked like a rifle, it would have been one.

Hypothetically, if the guy had shot the officer because it was dark and he saw someone in his yard running towards him with a weapon... I'd be saying the same thing. It's terrible and a very unfortunate accident and I understand how it might have happened.

Trent...very soon you'll see that folks like Bill and Kallend don't like law enforcement personnel .

I used to be one

Well that explains it. I heard you weren't too fond of Perfessers either.

Please don't dent the planet.

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No. Then we'd have 2 people shooting it out and possibly killed. As it stands, we have one guy that was accidentally killed. It also would have made it even easier to understand why the officer may have felt threatened. Instead of something that may have looked like a rifle, it would have been one.

Hypothetically, if the guy had shot the officer because it was dark and he saw someone in his yard running towards him with a weapon... I'd be saying the same thing. It's terrible and a very unfortunate accident and I understand how it might have happened.

Trent...very soon you'll see that folks like Bill and Kallend don't like law enforcement personnel .

I used to be one

Well that explains it. I heard you weren't too fond of Perfessers either.

At least I don't use a convicted sex offender as my alter ego, like some people around here.

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