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Ummm dude.... check the sticky thread above by BillVon about politics, guns and religion threads.... :P

3... 2... 1... ;)

Woo hoo!!! I posted just before the move. Damn I'm good... so are the others who beat me. :D

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my boss just sent me this via email. some of the minute points are kinda dated views of an old man, but i agree with the overall theme- homeboy is inexperienced as sh*t!!! (i have no clue or any way to confirm if this is actually a letter from Mr. Lear- but i promise i did not spend the time to write it, just a copy and paste from an email...)

Most Americans are aware of Bill Lear, because of his Lear Jet business; however, he has accomplished much more, as you can see at this link: William P. Lear -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia . His opinions are worth a read:

Dear friends,

I am truly astonished by the ignorance Obama supporters have displayed in their quest to get someone - ANYONE - into the White House.

Now, wait a minute. I can well understand your dislike or even hatred of GWB, but he is not the root cause of all of our problems. Our Congress is. And a change there would be welcomed by all. You ain't gonna get it done with Obama. You gotta fire the whole damnable crooked Congress.
(Read my book, "BERNIE'S WAR!").

Perhaps I'm looking at all of this from a different perspective than you because my life experiences have been so different from yours. I'm 80-years old and have traveled the world where I've seen a great deal. I spent five years on active duty as a fighter pilot in the USAF and another seven years flying with the Air National Guard in California and Texas as well as a few years flying in the USAF Reserve. I spent three years on active duty in Germany flying Czech border patrol with "cold guns" in aircraft inferior to the MIG during the Korean "Police Action" when it was thought that Korea was a diversion for a Soviet invasion of Western Europe ..

I lived abroad for a total of 28 years. Three years in Germany, twenty years in Switzerland and five years in Great Britain where I was based doing "spook" work for the U.S. behind the Iron Curtain before it fell. During that era of the Cold War I ventured to Moscow, Prague, Warsaw, Bucharest, Peshawar, Pakistan and Bulgaria posing as a Swiss French-speaking arms dealer purchasing weapons we surreptitiously supplied to the Afghani Mujahedeen in their successful fight against the Soviets - all of which came back to haunt us.

I've been there and done that and have had close associations with top government people in Germany , the Netherlands and Great Britain . I've had more foreign affair experience than Obama could ever dream of and, yet, wouldn't have the temerity to deign myself "Presidential" material;
although I feel eminently more qualified to judge who would NOT be best for our country. My long-time world experience should count for something in my plea to you to abandon this miscreant flake. You will only be doing yourself and our country an enormous disservice if you persist in your support of this flash-in-the-pan opportunist. On this, you MUST trust me.

I've associated closely with European royalty and African politicians. I've traveled to the Far East to observe their cultures. My point is that Obama, although formally well educated and a brilliant orator, is a neophyte when it comes to understanding the world and is uniquely unqualified for the job as President of these great United States . His knowledge of economics is nil and his tax proposals absurd and life-threatening to the U.S. not only in economic terms but in preserving our national security as well. I don't want a "citizen of the world" to be President, I want a citizen of the good old USA to be President. Screw the rest of the world as they have well and truly screwed us. The time has come for us to awaken and start looking after ourselves. Now THAT would be CHANGE if that's what you're looking for.

While McCain has abstained from playing "the race-card", Obama is playing it to the hilt even though he's technically not an African-American. To qualify for this distinction you must be at least one-sixth black. Obama is only one-eighth. His father would be, as he was one-sixth. No, Obama is more Muslim than black yet he trades on his blackness.

The larger question I have about him is that we really don't know much about him other than what HE tells us, what we read on blogs and from some serious non-partisan investigators whose factual reports are, unfortunately, generally ignored and which receive precious little media exposure.

I, as a registered Independent, a military veteran and a patriot, beseech you to put aside party considerations and vote for the lesser of the two evils. Yes, I am NOT a McCain supporter, but he is, at least, not a flake, doesn't carry Muslim baggage and is a PROVEN hero and patriot WITH experience. It's not a party issue. It's all about electing the best we can trust with what we've got to work with. Mr. Obama is NOT that guy.

Please, please rethink your voting position. Thanks for reading my innermost thoughts. I care about all of you, but I care more about our country. Please help me to do both.

William P. (Bill) Lear, Jr.
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My predictions:

All school boards will be required to have at least one convicted terrorist on them

All marriages will be annulled by the US government, and everyone will be forced to marry someone of the same sex

Taxes on everyone will go up 276% (unless you make more than $250K a year; then they go up 280%)

Obama will give Texas to Al Qaeda in trade for a really cool burqua

The Constitution will be replaced by Obama's secret missing thesis

Decency, hard work and morality will be outlawed, and the whole US will look like the future Hill Valley in "Back to the Future II"

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> To qualify for this distinction you must be at least one-sixth black. Obama is only
> one-eighth. His father would be, as he was one-sixth.

Methinks math is not Mr. Lear's strong suit.



ha ha ha! +1... at least he's trying at 80 yrs!
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> To qualify for this distinction you must be at least one-sixth black. Obama is only
> one-eighth. His father would be, as he was one-sixth.

Methinks math is not Mr. Lear's strong suit.



Lear's 1/6th to 1/8th misconversion aside, how does one become 1/6th, anyhoo?

Full fathers with nil = 1/2
1/2 fathers with nil = 1/4
1/4 fathers with nil = 1/8

Even if 1/4 fathers with 1/8 = 3/16

I need X plus Y to equal 1/3, and then how the generation prior became whatever they are.

Geez now I have to wait for my 7th grader to get home to figure this out. [:/] Thank God I took my SAT's back in '91...:ph34r:
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my boss just sent me this via email. some of the minute points are kinda dated views of an old man, but i agree with the overall theme- homeboy is inexperienced as sh*t!!! (i have no clue or any way to confirm if this is actually a letter from Mr. Lear- but i promise i did not spend the time to write it, just a copy and paste from an email...)

Most Americans are aware of Bill Lear, because of his Lear Jet business; however, he has accomplished much more, as you can see at this link: William P. Lear -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia . His opinions are worth a read:



I'm going to HAVE to call BULLSHIT on this letter because, well, Bill Lear, the actual famous one, is dead!

See; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Lear

Now, go tell your boss that they removed the word gullible from the dictionary.

There is, a Bill Lear Jr. (by way of a second wife or thereabouts), but he's not the guy most people think of when they think of the Lear Jet company. It appears as if JR did, in fact, write the letter, but it's bullshit if you think it's coming from the real Bill Lear.
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My predictions:

All school boards will be required to have at least one convicted terrorist on them

All marriages will be annulled by the US government, and everyone will be forced to marry someone of the same sex

Taxes on everyone will go up 276% (unless you make more than $250K a year; then they go up 280%)

Obama will give Texas to Al Qaeda in trade for a really cool burqua

The Constitution will be replaced by Obama's secret missing thesis

Decency, hard work and morality will be outlawed, and the whole US will look like the future Hill Valley in "Back to the Future II"



This settles it: he's got my vote.
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Lear's 1/6th to 1/8th misconversion aside, how does one become 1/6th, anyhoo?



I suspect it requires a stepfather, or a same sex marriage with a surrogate. Or do what Reagan did - wave your hands around and declare it so.

So aside from this legal definition he pulled out of thin air, I wonder how many darker skinned people with curly hair think it matters what their percentage is.

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Mr Lear writes:
I am truly astonished by the ignorance Obama supporters have displayed in their quest to get someone - ANYONE - into the White House.

Now, wait a minute. I can well understand your dislike or even hatred of GWB, but he is not the root cause of all of our problems. Our Congress is.



No one can talk about the ignorance of others and then immediately make such a ridiculously stupid remark.

The combination of a GOP majority, 9/11, and the failing economy gave Bush a congress that did everything he asked of it.

OTOH, if Bush was perfectly good and Congress is the problem, then Obama's inexperience doesn't matter (he's certainly no worse than Shrub), and removing him from Congress would be an improvement.

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I'm going to HAVE to call BULLSHIT on this letter because, well, Bill Lear, the actual famous one, is dead!



man, there aren't enough fact checkers for all the mail on the internet, are there?



Nope. That said, Wikipedia is pretty good when it comes to finding out if a famous person is dead or alive!
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Nope. That said, Wikipedia is pretty good when it comes to finding out if a famous person is dead or alive!



unless the same people spend all day keeping that entry up to full truthiness.



Well, here's the deal on Jr., he's a dilettante. Yeah, he's done some fun stuff, but has never really had to work a day in his life.

As for truthiness, yeah, that happens a lot on Wikipedia for controversial subjects. Whether or not somebody is dead is usually not all that controversial and kinda easy to prove so . . . I doubt there's much truthiness on the real Bill Lear's page when it comes to his death.
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> To qualify for this distinction you must be at least one-sixth black. Obama is only
> one-eighth. His father would be, as he was one-sixth.

Methinks math is not Mr. Lear's strong suit.



Lear's 1/6th to 1/8th misconversion aside, how does one become 1/6th, anyhoo?

..:ph34r:


First you trisect the angle with straightedge and compasses only, and use the result to square the circle and write pi as an exact fraction.
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. . . and write pi as an exact fraction.



Pi = c/d

What's inexact about that? ;)

Or did you want the biblical version of 3/1 . . . that's pretty exact too! ;)


It's vulgar.
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if OBAMA is elected



*if?* You mean "when?"

I predict we'll see absolutely nothing different for at least 6 months. Then he'll show early signs of graying hair.

And there will be a great gnashing of teeth and wailing in the Red states for the next 3.5 years. The Sarah Palin will attempt to resurrect her dumbass carcass as a contender, for at least 3 weeks. :P

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And there will be a great gnashing of teeth and wailing in the Red states for the next 3.5 years. The Sarah Palin will attempt to resurrect her dumbass carcass as a contender, for at least 3 weeks. :P



Her and Hillary will make quite the pair, shining example of clueless and desparate.

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