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McCain tries to hide his past - and fails

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Gen. Singlaub is a ... child mollester.



Can you give us links to credible sources, which we can read and evaluate for ourselves, that support this assertion with respect to Singlaub personally?
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He is not a child molester. It was an attempt at sarcasm. There are those who attend rallies for McPalin who yell out that Barack Obama is a terrorist, that he commits treason.. that he should be killed.

He was making an absurd remark to make a point, if I can speak for him.

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Well, take a look at the Democratic attack machine over the past twenty years or so. They relish calling right wing folks Nazis almost as much as they relish calling them racists - not quite, but almost. The Nazi connection plays right into this psyche of theirs, regardless of its efficacy among those who think about it. Once accused, its taken as Gospel among leftists regardless of what other facts might exist. It's an easy way to curry favor among supporters of the DNC's candidate who are intellectually challenged.

This is one of many ways the left attacks this large portion of their base. Other strategies include the 'if you don't vote for Obama you're a racist' strategy or their moronic 'if you criticize Obama for any reason, it's because of his race' strategy that's been employed from time to time. Wealth envy is another one. Attacks against corporations is a subset of the wealth envy strategy in which the left ingratiates themselves to their ignorant base by bashing corporations vice the achievers that run them (they'll bash the achievers later - 'tax cuts for the rich' must be stated repeatedly). Al Gore further refined this to 'Big Oil' in his last campaign.

Do Republicans do the same thing? Absolutely. For example, their evangelical Christian base will ALWAYS come out WRT abortion, despite the fact that it will never be 100% illegal in this country even if Roe vs Wade was overturned, screaming that if you vote for the Democratic candidate you'll be endorsing the murder of babies. You just don't hear them as much as you do with the Dems. The right will also have their anti-drug fanatics screaming about the evils of marijuana legalization and calling its supporters evil, anti-religious pot-heads. Among the lower intellectual levels of the right, it will be effective.

There are dumbfucks on both sides of the ideological fence, but in my experience following politics over the years the majority of advertising and campaigning aimed at dumbfucks comes from the Democrats. And it's been effective for them.

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I don't think Palin is as dumb as she has been made out to be. WRT handling the press and being ready for political attacks, I think she was unready for the national political stage, but for guts to take on existing paradigms and conservative beliefs, I like her quite a bit.

Reagan is my favorite president - one of them at any rate - and he was not as smart as El Jefe Clintonista. Carter is an EXTREMELY intelligent man in many regards - and he's made a fucktard of himself recently; and was a piss poor president. Nixon was absolutely brilliant - possibly the smartest president ever - and look what he ended up doing to himself domestically. He was impeached for the LEAST of his evils.

Palin has been gunned for since coming on the national scene - for myriad reasons. The left cannot STAND conservative women. They've proven themselves cowards by attacking her daughter vice her in several cases, they're making a porn flick about her, and their sycophants in the media have been after her like nothing else. She interviews fairly poorly - a vestige of her inexperience in handling the national media. As a speaker, she's actually quite good.

However, it is impossible for anyone with a three digit IQ - and yours is high in the three digits - to place the questions Charlie Gibson asked Sen. Obama beside the ones he asked Sarah Palin and come to the conclusion that he's an unbiased interviewer. It cannot be done. Period. Hugh Hewitt had some great comments on how she's been interviewed by the press. Had Palin been interviewed in the same manner as afforded Obama, her image would be far better. Though I still think she wouldn't have interviewed as well as Obama.

In particular about the ticket, despite GWB pissing me off, I have not given up my conservative principles - those that remain; my libertarian leanings override many of them - though I don't necessarily think the next president should necessarily be a staunch conservative (McCain is not a real one), he's by far the better choice.

I think we need a leader. I think we need somebody with the guts to face reality when it comes to the budget as well as foreign policy. Reality cannot be faced without placing EVERY SINGLE ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM as well as 100% of discretionary spending on the table for consideration of elimination or reduction. No exception. There is NO democrat that can do that and get re-elected. There is NO way anyone who supports expanding entitlement programs can do that. Period. Somebody who has been an avid opponent of earmark spending and government largesse in the past has that political capital. McCain even said in the last debate that we have to face the fact that our entitlement programs are not sustainable (paraphrased here, but he said that).

The same realistic approach needs to be taken with the tax code. Again - the Dems cannot put forth a reasonable tax plan because they've convinced their base that the rich and corporations must pay, pay, pay, pay, pay. Ala Walter Mondale's infamous 'tax the hell out of them' comment from years past, that's what they've got their base believing. Republicans have raised taxes in the past when necessary - and been punished for it. Bush the Elder did a poor job doing it and increased them far too much.

Do I think he'll face reality 100%? Probably not as much as needs to be done, but he'll go FAR further than Obama ever could merely because of his past record and his being unafraid to piss off his party.

The aforementioned along with my utter hatred of socialism is how I can support that ticket, mein Freund - and am proud to do so.

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>I don't think Palin is as dumb as she has been made out to be.

I don't think she is as dumb as the democrats think she is, nor is she as wiley and courageous as the GOP thinks she is. I think what you see in her interviews is pretty much how she is.

> No exception. There is NO democrat that can do that and get re-elected.

There is no _politician_ that can do that and get re-elected. Cut military funding and veteran's benefits? The GOP would have then out of there faster than you can say "troop hating defeatocrat."

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Oh, I think a politician will have to do just that Bill, or we're going to pay a heavy price as a society. McCain at least has credibility on cutting discretionary spending and has stated that entitlement spending is unsustainable. That's a start.

Military/VA benefits would be the last thing he (or any democrat) would want to cut. But I think he would put them on the table with every other entitlement program and say 'it's time to face reality'. He's been screaming about spending for years. A McCain budget cycle will be something to behold I believe.


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I don't think Palin is as dumb as she has been made out to be. WRT handling the press and being ready for political attacks, I think she was unready for the national political stage, but for guts to take on existing paradigms and conservative beliefs, I like her quite a bit.



So you sayeth Admiral Anvil, yet you are a poster child of the Bush Doctrine yet you want to be led by a woman who does not even know what that is.[:/][:/][:/]

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That would be the same Singlaub that said McCain was not an actice member of the group? The same Singlaub that said "I don't recall talking to McCain at all on the work of the group"?

As opposed to Obama working on the board of the Annenburg Challenge with Ayers, working on the Wood Fund with Ayers, and having his political "coming out" party hosted by Ayers?

The same Ayers that co-founded the Weather Underground and proudly admitted himself a communist and terrorist?

So, seeing the association between Obama and Ayers, Obama and Wright, Obama and Pfleger, etc etc etc... I suppose you'll be voting for the lesser of two evils, i.e. McCain?



If you are trying to compare the Weather Underground to anyone involved in Latin America in the 80s you live in a fucking fantasy world.

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Fascists being part of an anti-communist organization shouldn't surprise you either. The two types of government are diametrically opposed.



No they aren't.

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Contributing to anti-communist movements and even leading them should probably be amongst the good ones



You really are this stupid aren't you?

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though I'm sure socialists would disagree.



Because you don't understand that 'anti-communist' was just a cover term for killing innocent people trying to organise their economic relations away from US dominance? Yeah I'm pretty sure not just 'socialists' would disagree your stupidity.

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Furthermore, what were the communists doing down there?



Wow... you really don't have a fucking clue about what happened in the 20th century...

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All but exterminating the Mosquito indians if memory serves, amongst other heinous things. Death squads were not unleashed in paradise against innocent angels.



Lets recap

1. You don't know what happened in the 20th century
2. subsequently you don't understand what happened in Latin America
3. You don't understand the cold war
4. You don't know what communism and anti-communism is

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I detest communism and with benefit of hindsight, know what evil the Soviets unleashed upon the world and their own people.



You detest something you have made up in your head that isn't communism and the evil the soviets unleashed upon your patriotic US world are nothing compared to those you unleashed yourself.

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Were you to pay attention to politics, you'd realize that the Bush Doctrine could be one of several things.

As I stated earlier - it's impossible for anyone with a three digit IQ to place the questions asked of Gov. Palin by Charlie Gibson next to those asked of Sen. Obama by Gibson and come to the conclusion that the man gave Palin's interview free of bias. Cannot be done. Period. When you've faced reality and seen that, get back to me about the Governor's intellect.

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Were you to pay attention to politics, you'd realize that the Bush Doctrine could be one of several things.

As I stated earlier - it's impossible for anyone with a three digit IQ to place the questions asked of Gov. Palin by Charlie Gibson next to those asked of Sen. Obama by Gibson and come to the conclusion that the man gave Palin's interview free of bias. Cannot be done. Period. When you've faced reality and seen that, get back to me about the Governor's intellect




BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Vinny is imploding......

For as bright a guy as you purport to be Vinny..... you seem to fall for appearances far too easily.:ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:

I can see why you would support Sen McCain there is a great similarity between you two .... but Palin.. is just not capable of being anything more than a pretty face on the real powers behind them.

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Oh, I expect an Obama win...without my vote, to be sure. Does that mean I'll abandon all sense and become a socialist? Not by a long shot. Does that make anything I've stated incorrect? Not by a long shot. It means we'll have four years of Democrats in control of the executive branch of government. And probably a left leaning congress, though I hope the Republicans maintain at least 41 members of the Senate.

My statements RE the Gibson-Palin interview are dead on. Leftists can deal with that however they like.

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Does that mean I'll abandon all sense and become a socialist? Not by a long shot.



The White House just gave government money to help banks, McCain wants to give government money to buy bad mortgages. Which party is the socialist party, again?
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McCain's middle name is Sidney, you know. I'll bet he's a closet white man.



Hey at least we are pretty sure that at some point he did get a blow job with his background of chasing tail. I can trust a man that has gotten blow jobs far more than those who apparently never get or are not getting any.:ph34r:

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Here is a little more background on Singlaub...

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Singlaub joined forces with Ted Shackley, Ray S. Cline and Richard Helms to get Jimmy Carter removed from the White House. In December, 1979



This is the same General Singlaub who as commander of forces in Korea, gave a speech at West Point that included a point that the forces in Korea needed to be increased due to North Korean incursions across the DMZ. Upon his return to Korea, Singlaub received a order to immediately return to DC to meet with President Carter. Singlaub, who had his family with him in Korea, left the next day and met with Carter who fired him for "Taking a political position different than that of the President", and was forbidden from returning to Korea to get his family.

The "political position" paper issued by the White House which military officers are obligated to follow was later proven to be a forgery that was not written or issued until Singlaub had already left West Point and was on his way back to Korea.

Clinton lied and ruined the career of a career soldier who had an untarnished record up to that point. It's no wonder he went rogue! I would have too.

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Clinton lied and ruined the career of a career soldier who had an untarnished record up to that point. It's no wonder he went rogue! I would have too.



Clinton.. ????


Probably a Freudian slip. HOWEVER, the following post-war (WWII) presidents are known to have lied about substantive issues:

Eisenhower
Kennedy
Johnson
Nixon
Carter
Reagan
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II

I am not aware of Ford having lied.


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