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Hmmm. I must admit that out of all the women I've assisted in getting TROs I never thought to ask whether the spouse supported one political party or the other. I never thought to ask the victim what party she supports.

It occurred to me in my experience that abuse seemed to cover the socioeconomic and probably political spectrum. I could find no identifiable common charasteristic in the numerous abuse cases I handled for these women.

The most brutal I handled actually involved a lesbian couple. The abuser was an MD addicted to prescription drugs. (The abuser and I actually knew a couple of doctors in orange county. I could presume from what she told me that she was not Republican given her dislike of the political leanings of OC)

Nevertheless, I think it somewhat sad that a determination that most of the abusers were McCain supporters should be posted for the implication. After all, apparebtly there were Obama supporters in there, too.

Maybe the likelihood of abuse is the same. Most abuse goes unreported. Maybe girlfriends and wives of McCain supporters have been sufficiently empowered to actually do something, while Obama supporters sufficiently convince their wives/girlfriends that going for help wouldn't do any good.

I think that my suggestion is equally invalid to your implication.


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Interesting - the most educated segment of society, the folks you PAY lots of money to educate your kids, supports Obama. Go figure.



I wonder who the least educated segment in society is supporting.. a quick check of the dumb as dirt and proud of it websites.. shows OVERWHELMING support for McCain.



Interested to know your version of dumb as dirt and proud of it websites. Examples please.
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Interesting - the most educated segment of society, the folks you PAY lots of money to educate your kids, supports Obama. Go figure.



"most educated" certainly does NOT equate to actual brainpower -- a fact proven daily here in these forums, and specifically by the nature of this particular dumbassed thread.


It must really frost you that people pay tens hundreds of thousands of dollars to have their kids exposed to the likes of us.;)
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It must really frost you that people pay tens hundreds of thousands of dollars to have their kids exposed to the likes of us.;)



Oh no, I LOVE most of the many professors who've been my teachers, idiot savants half of 'em may be -- their cost fully justified nonetheless.


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I can guarantee its not Sen Obama.



Why?

I don't see any reference of the Council of Conservative Citizens endorsing anyone.
Kingdom Identity Ministries doesn't endorse either candidate, nor does the Watchman Expositor.

What they all have incommon is a religious belief. Seems like you must have a problem with religion. Do you think Sen. Obama has a problem with religion? Do you think religious folks will only vote for McCain?
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Do you think religious folks will only vote for McCain?



He certainly has pandered to them enough recently. You also have not followed WHO the CofCC has supported in recent years. You also know the agenda of those groups.. since you and a couple others here have posted about similar issues that concern them and yourselves greatly in this election.

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stereotype (from Greek: stereo + týpos = "solid impression") is a generalized perception of the normal appearances, beliefs, and behaviors presumed by a group of people (or a population in general) to be associated with another specific group

So what's your point?


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Interesting - the most educated segment of society, the folks you PAY lots of money to educate your kids, supports Obama. Go figure.



I wonder who the least educated segment in society is supporting.. a quick check of the dumb as dirt and proud of it websites.. shows OVERWHELMING support for McCain.



Interested to know your version of dumb as dirt and proud of it websites. Examples please.



How bout this (everyone can play)? Of the people you know, ask the ones who spew hatred, racial and otherwise (bonus points for sister fucking, living in a trailer and tobacco chewing) who they support in the election.

Aside from the Aryan Nation types (I'm an Independant but more closely aligned with Rep.), the majority support McCain.

You know it, I know it, we all know it.

Why does the Republican party draw such people?
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This thread is pretty sad, but typical of what's been about these days. Hmph.

There are despicable people supporting both McCain and Obama. Neither McCain nor Obama agree with the despicable opinions any microcosm of their supporters might hold - in all likelihood.

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I just got a job at a University and guess what, I see most of the profs support Obama.........go figure.

And yes Jenfly...........I'm back;)



Interesting - the most educated segment of society, the folks you PAY lots of money to educate your kids, supports Obama. Go figure.


Maybe but us that support the economy and the work force the most support Mcain! Go figure.
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I just got a job at a University and guess what, I see most of the profs support Obama.........go figure.



Educated people thinking that way??? Well by all means dont listen to them, listen to AM radio with all the other angry taxi drivers that still think Saddam masterminded 911, wait Palin's not a taxi driver.
take a deep breath, relax and don't clinch your teeth together, it will all be over in a couple of minutes...

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I just got a job at a University and guess what, I see most of the profs support Obama.........go figure.

And yes Jenfly...........I'm back;)



Interesting - the most educated segment of society, the folks you PAY lots of money to educate your kids, supports Obama. Go figure.


Colleges have been liberal/socialist hotbeds for the last several decades - no surprises there.

Read "The Rape of Alma Mater" sometime.
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How bout this (everyone can play)? Of the people you know, ask the ones who spew hatred, racial and otherwise (bonus points for sister fucking, living in a trailer and tobacco chewing) who they support in the election.



Going from the bile and vitriol posted here daily, the answer to your question is ..... Liberals. Your smarmy quip about sister fucking, living in a trailer and tobacco chewing only proves the point.
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How bout this (everyone can play)? Of the people you know, ask the ones who spew hatred, racial and otherwise (bonus points for sister fucking, living in a trailer and tobacco chewing) who they support in the election.



Going from the bile and vitriol posted here daily, the answer to your question is ..... Liberals. Your smarmy quip about sister fucking, living in a trailer and tobacco chewing only proves the point.



Was just thinking the same thing. Libs always want you to believe that they're somehow better than conservatives, but it backfires every time. Their backlash against Palin is failing miserably and already some in the fold are distancing themselves from Barry. Once again they'll be on the wrong side of history.
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How bout this (everyone can play)? Of the people you know, ask the ones who spew hatred, racial and otherwise (bonus points for sister fucking, living in a trailer and tobacco chewing) who they support in the election.



Going from the bile and vitriol posted here daily, the answer to your question is ..... Liberals. Your smarmy quip about sister fucking, living in a trailer and tobacco chewing only proves the point.



Was just thinking the same thing. Libs always want you to believe that they're somehow better than conservatives, but it backfires every time. Their backlash against Palin is failing miserably and already some in the fold are distancing themselves from Barry. Once again they'll be on the wrong side of history.



They (the liberals) also like to claim that they and their ideals are in the majority in this country. Well, I heard about a poll question that has been asked since 2002. It is the Battleground poll question D3. The answer to this question indicates they (the liberals) may actually be in the minority. They just seem to make much more noice than the conservatives.

Please see the following...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/the_biggest_missing_story_in_p.html

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August 25, 2008
The Biggest Missing Story in Politics
By Bruce Walker
The Battleground Poll, the most respected and thorough of all public opinion polls, released its latest results on August 20th. Although many people read this poll for the data on voter preference in upcoming elections, for voter opinions about the two major political parties, for what things matter most to voters, I always zip past this data in the first fifteen pages of poll results and go straight to Question D3, which very quietly and totally ignored proclaims the biggest missing story in American politics and which is the only story, in the long run, that really matters.


I have been tracking Question D3 for a long time, since June 2002, in thirteen straight Battleground Poll results. Americans respond to this question more consistently than to any other question in those thirteen Battleground Poll surveys. People many change their opinions dramatically about Iraq or President Bush or drilling for oil, but not their answer to Question D3.


The Battleground Poll is different. It is bipartisan. A Republican polling organization, the Terrance Group, and a Democrat polling organization, Lake Research Partners, collaborate in picking the questions, selecting the sample population, conducting the surveys, and analyzing the results. The Battleground Poll website, along with the raw data, is "Republican Strategic Analysis" and "Democratic Strategic Analysis." There are few polls that are bipartisan. No other polling organization asks the same questions year after year, none that reveal the internals of their poll results so completely, and none ask anything like Question D3 in every survey. What is Question D3 and what were the results to Question D3 in the August 20, 2008 Battleground Poll? It is this:


"When thinking about politics and government, do you consider yourself to be...


Very conservative


Somewhat conservative


MODERATE


Somewhat liberal


Very liberal


UNSURE/REFUSED"


In August 2008, Americans answered that question this way: (1) 20% of Americans considered themselves to be very conservative; (2) 40% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat conservative; (3) 2% of Americans considered themselves to be moderate; (4) 27% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat liberal; (5) 9% of Americans considered themselves to be very liberal; and (6) 3% of Americans did not know or refused to answer.


Sixty percent of Americans considered themselves conservative. Does this mean that most Americans do not know what "conservative" means? No: The question specifically provides an out to people who are not sure about their ideology; it provides an out to people who want to be considered "moderate." Americans reject those choices. They overwhelmingly define themselves as "conservative." This is a huge political story - except that it is not "new" at all. Look at the thirteen Battleground Poll results over the last six years, and how do Americans answer that very question? Here are the percentages of Americans in those polls who call themselves "conservative" since June 2002: 59% (June 2002 poll), 59% (September 2003 poll), 61% (April 2004 poll), 59% (June 2004 poll), 60% (September 2004 poll), 61% (October 2005 poll), 59% (March 2006), 61% (October 2006), 59% (January 2007), 63% (July 2007), 58% (December 2007), 63% (May 2008), and now 60% (August 2008.)


The percentage of Americans who define themselves as "somewhat liberal" or "very liberal" has always been puny. In thirteen straight polls, this percentage has never been higher than 38% (June 2004) and it has usually been much lower. The gap between self-defined conservatives and self-defined liberals has been as high as thirty percentage points and as low as twenty-one percentage points. What does that translate into in electoral politics? If conservative presidential candidates simply got all the conservative votes - if virtually all moderate voters, uncommitted voters, and liberal voters went for the liberal candidate - then the conservative candidates would win a landslide bigger than Ronald Reagan in 1988. Have you ever wondered why liberals like Obama never call themselves liberals? Maybe their advisers have read the Battleground Poll internals.


Are these remarkable results skewed? This has always been the argument, but it is a hopelessly flawed argument. The poll results are incredibly consistent over time. These results are the same when President Bush has poll numbers at rock bottom and when Republicans were facing electoral disaster, like in October 2006 when 61% of Americans called themselves conservatives. The very consistency of these percentages is powerful evidence of their inherent validity.


If people did not know what conservative, liberal, and moderate meant, then the poll results to that question would bounce around over time and people would flock to define themselves as "moderate" or they would say "don't know." When given four different options to the conservative label, respondents overwhelmingly chose to define themselves, instead, as conservatives.


Do people feel pressured into calling themselves conservatives? Think: Hollywood regularly excoriates the image of conservatives; the mainstream media demonizes conservatives; schools teach that conservatives are narrow minded bigots; academia tries to hound independent conservative newspapers and organizations off campus. It requires much more courage to define yourself as a conservative than any other label, particularly when the banal "moderate" answer is so easily grasped. No: These answers to Question D3 are real, profound, and great.


Why, then, do other polls show Americans so different from conservatives? The short answer is that other polls are scrupulously constructed to hide the tsunami of conservative opinion in America. On abortion, for example, polls will report that Americans define themselves at least as much as "pro-choice" as they do "pro-life," but that is just not true. The "pro-choice" advocates nationally oppose bans on partial birth abortion, oppose parental notification, and oppose counseling on abortion. Led by men like Obama, the "pro-choice" position is, quite simply, that a woman always has a right to choose an abortion.


Polls do not show support for that at all. Polls over the last few months give the following levels of support to making abortion always legal: "always legal - 19%" (Quinnipiac Poll, July 2008); "legal in all cases - 19%" (Pew Poll, June 2008); "legal in all cases - 18%" (ABC / Washington Post Poll, June 2008). While it is true that the percentage of Americans who want abortion illegal in all situations is almost exactly the same as those who want abortion legal in all cases, the overwhelming percentage of Americans want just what pro-life advocates want: abortion generally available in cases of rape, incest, or life-threatening health problems for the mother; abortion for minors regulated just like abortion for any major medical procedure for minors is regulated; and abortion on account of personal inconvenience more strictly regulated. All of these polls showing Americans equally divided were crafted by people and by groups intent upon presenting a false impression of how Americans felt about abortion.


Polls on other issues are just as bad. The CNN poll of June 2008 on gun control is a good example. CNN asks people to interpret the Constitution, by reciting the text of the Second Amendment. Then asks whether this text in the Bill of Rights was intended to provide for "a well regulated militia" or to preserve "the right of the people to keep and bear arms." In other words, the question implies that the Second Amendment cannot preserve two rights, both of which are explicitly recited within the text of that amendment: A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is specifically guaranteed as well.


Like everything that the Left does, from entertainment to higher education, the structure, the format, and the revealed results of information is conformed to present an image in which conservatives and their values are as invisible as blacks in the Antebellum South. Even Leftists themselves believe this false picture. Consider, in 1988, how many liberal Democrats did not believe that Reagan had won an overwhelming landslide because they, personally, knew of no one who voted for him. Consider how blindsided the Left was by the overwhelming popularity of an unapologetic conservative like Rush Limbaugh. Consider that Republicans walk about in a blue funk wondering where the next Reagan is, utterly forgetting that not only Leftists, but "moderate" Republicans in 1980 were labeling Reagan as far, far too conservative. The Gipper, in fact, was comfortably in the middle of a huge American majority. The extremists are that 9% of Americans who call themselves "very liberal."


Conservatives are like those proverbial sailors becalmed off the coast of Brazil, dying of thirst, and wondering how they would survive until tomorrow. When another ship passed asked the listless sailing ship if its crew needed help, the urgent call was for fresh water, to which the passing ship replied "Lift down your buckets into the sea. You are in the mouth of the Amazon." Fresh water was everywhere around the dehydrated men; they just did not know it. Conservatives are not just a majority of Americans, but an utterly overwhelming majority of all Americans. As soon as they grasp this huge fact, government and politics in America will be transformed.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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I just got a job at a University and guess what, I see most of the profs support Obama.........go figure.

And yes Jenfly...........I'm back;)



Interesting - the most educated segment of society, the folks you PAY lots of money to educate your kids, supports Obama. Go figure.


Maybe but us that support the economy and the work force the most support Mcain! Go figure.



Your support for the economy via voting for Bush and garbage has revealed itself. You might thinbk you are supporting the economy, you might even have a cheer written for it, but your votes have helped destroy it.

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