ChasingBlueSky 0 #1 July 9, 2008 The morning of the FISA vote McCain unleashes on Obama about it: http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/mccain_hits_obama_on_fisa_vote.php But look at this http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Calendar/Detail.aspx?guid=146ebbb6-e9c5-44d1-80a7-2ae79b7112b6 McCain currently has missed 61% of the votes in the Senate. The most of any active Senator. Not sure about you guys, but I would lose my job if I was absent that often. Meanwhile Obama is actually there voting for the Amedments to the FISA vote, esp the Dobb, Specter and Bingaman ones. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00164#top One has to wonder if GW will pull down his pants and shit on the 4th Amendment after he signs the new FISA into law. Nixon must be pissing himself in his grave that this idiot got away with it but he didn't. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.." Ben Franklin edit to add: http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/fisa-compromise.ars Worth a read if you missed it._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #2 July 9, 2008 QuoteOne has to wonder if GW will pull down his pants and shit on the 4th Amendment after he signs the new FISA into law. As did Clinton: Quote"The Department of Justice believes, and the case law supports, that the president has inherent authority to conduct warrantless physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes," Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee on July 14, 1994, "and that the President may, as has been done, delegate this authority to the Attorney General." "It is important to understand," Gorelick continued, "that the rules and methodology for criminal searches are inconsistent with the collection of foreign intelligence and would unduly frustrate the president in carrying out his foreign intelligence responsibilities." Did you have a POINT with the statement, or was it just another "oh, look at how bad the REPUBLICANS are!" while ignoring the fact that the Dems are just as bad?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #3 July 9, 2008 QuoteQuoteOne has to wonder if GW will pull down his pants and shit on the 4th Amendment after he signs the new FISA into law. As did Clinton: Quote"The Department of Justice believes, and the case law supports, that the president has inherent authority to conduct warrantless physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes," Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee on July 14, 1994, "and that the President may, as has been done, delegate this authority to the Attorney General." "It is important to understand," Gorelick continued, "that the rules and methodology for criminal searches are inconsistent with the collection of foreign intelligence and would unduly frustrate the president in carrying out his foreign intelligence responsibilities." Did you have a POINT with the statement, or was it just another "oh, look at how bad the REPUBLICANS are!" while ignoring the fact that the Dems are just as bad? It is just BDS"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,622 #4 July 9, 2008 QuoteQuoteOne has to wonder if GW will pull down his pants and shit on the 4th Amendment after he signs the new FISA into law. As did Clinton: Quote"The Department of Justice believes, and the case law supports, that the president has inherent authority to conduct warrantless physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes," Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee on July 14, 1994, "and that the President may, as has been done, delegate this authority to the Attorney General." "It is important to understand," Gorelick continued, "that the rules and methodology for criminal searches are inconsistent with the collection of foreign intelligence and would unduly frustrate the president in carrying out his foreign intelligence responsibilities." Did you have a POINT with the statement, or was it just another "oh, look at how bad the REPUBLICANS are!" while ignoring the fact that the Dems are just as bad? So you think that makes it OK, then.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,392 #5 July 9, 2008 CDIF by the second post. Back to normal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #6 July 9, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteOne has to wonder if GW will pull down his pants and shit on the 4th Amendment after he signs the new FISA into law. As did Clinton: Quote"The Department of Justice believes, and the case law supports, that the president has inherent authority to conduct warrantless physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes," Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee on July 14, 1994, "and that the President may, as has been done, delegate this authority to the Attorney General." "It is important to understand," Gorelick continued, "that the rules and methodology for criminal searches are inconsistent with the collection of foreign intelligence and would unduly frustrate the president in carrying out his foreign intelligence responsibilities." Did you have a POINT with the statement, or was it just another "oh, look at how bad the REPUBLICANS are!" while ignoring the fact that the Dems are just as bad? So you think that makes it OK, then. No, that's YOUR schtick - anything the Dems do is ok, because the Reps are worse - remember?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #7 July 9, 2008 QuoteCDIF by the second post. Back to normal. IABF / BDS in the first post....what's your point, besides the obvious deflect from MY point that they're ALL shitheads?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,392 #8 July 9, 2008 >BDS in the first post.... You know, as you have pointed out several times, those posters with BDS will be over it in about six months. Your CDS, it seems, is incurable. He's been gone over 7 years and yet you cannot seem to help yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #9 July 9, 2008 QuoteQuoteCDIF by the second post. Back to normal. IABF / BDS in the first post....what's your point, besides the obvious deflect from MY point that they're ALL shitheads? QWERTY? LMNOP? RDS? Guess I don't know these new ones. I'm pretty sure I've gone on record that I'm not a Democrat, so not sure what the point was of your first post. Also, if you wanted something more relevant you should have looked at who voted yes/no....Going after the massive amount of Dems that voted against the amendments and for FISA is overwhelming. People I used to respect, like Jim Webb, will never get my support again. I didn't realize he was a piece of trash that was just as easily purchased like the rest of the Senate and House. Still, good to see McCain likes to make an issue about Obama and the vote then he doesn't have the courage to show up and make his own vote. Oh ya, I wrote the Obama campaign and informed them I am withdrawing my support because this was not filibustered and that the young senator from my state didn't do all he could to protect our freedoms._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #10 July 9, 2008 Quote >BDS in the first post.... You know, as you have pointed out several times, those posters with BDS will be over it in about six months. Your CDS, it seems, is incurable. He's been gone over 7 years and yet you cannot seem to help yourself. Whatever you say, Bill. - I forgot that showing the hypocrisy of people trying to blame one political party / President for stuff that's been going on for years / decades was forbidden.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,392 #11 July 9, 2008 >I forgot that showing the hypocrisy of people trying to blame one political party . . . And I forgot that your CDS has evolved such an intricate and noble camouflage. Battle on against hypocrisy and evil, brave soldier! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 July 9, 2008 Quote>I forgot that showing the hypocrisy of people trying to blame one political party . . . And I forgot that your CDS has evolved such an intricate and noble camouflage. Battle on against hypocrisy and evil, brave soldier! See above - and thanks for proving my point.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #13 July 9, 2008 Bunch of spineless, worthless, pieces of fucking dog shit. It's almost revolution time when the government and big business shit on the law and then make their actions retroactively legal. And fuck Obama too. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
