skymiles 3 #1 May 9, 2008 Is that code for racist/bigot? Hillary and the pundits keep saying that Obama is not winning this demographic and that’ll be a problem come the general election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #2 May 9, 2008 QuoteIs that code for racist/bigot? I believe in some social circles it's the definition. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 May 9, 2008 QuoteIs that code for racist/bigot? Hillary and the pundits keep saying that Obama is not winning this demographic and that’ll be a problem come the general election. If the shoe fits... However, what Hillary says and what reality is are two different matters. She's acting like the lawyer for Charles Manson now. No defense too stupid to try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #4 May 9, 2008 QuoteIs that code for racist/bigot? Hillary and the pundits keep saying that Obama is not winning this demographic and that’ll be a problem come the general election. Aren't like 99% of whites "working class"? At what salary are you no longer working class? I prefer Hillary to Obama (and Edwards to both of them). So I guess I'm a racist? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #5 May 9, 2008 This is the oldest news in Speakers Corner. How many times will she obviously pander to racism while her apologists will deny it? There was a thread earlier on how Bill Clinton reminded voters during the NC election that Obama is BLACK. Then, there was a thread where they went to Mississippi and reminded voters that Obama is BLACK and you are WHITE voters. Now, she states that WHITE voters are not voting for the BLACK candidate. She thinks they will vote for the WHITE woman. MSNBC Peggy Noonan - Wall Street Journal QuotePeggy Noonan also believes Clinton played the race card in her USA Today interview. "If John McCain said, ‘I got the white vote, baby!’ his candidacy would be over. And rising in highest indignation against him would be the old Democratic Party. To play the race card as Mrs. Clinton has, to highlight and encourage a sense that we are crudely divided as a nation, to make your argument a brute and cynical ‘the black guy can't win but the white girl can’ is -- well, so vulgar, so cynical, so cold, that once again a Clinton is making us turn off the television in case the children walk by.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
countzero 7 #6 May 9, 2008 i'm proud to be of my voter classification. i fit the ethnicity, i'm not on welfare and i don't yet make enough that i'm paying 50% in taxes. but my taxes will probably be going up anyways when the socialist take over.diamonds are a dawgs best friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,826 #7 May 10, 2008 Quotei'm proud to be of my voter classification. i fit the ethnicity, i'm not on welfare and i don't yet make enough that i'm paying 50% in taxes. but my taxes will probably be going up anyways when the socialist take over. Do you think that taxes can stay below expenditures for ever and that the deficit will grow FOR EVER? Your taxes will go up regardless of who takes over because at some point the creditors will quit lending us their money.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #8 May 10, 2008 Quotei'm proud to be of my voter classification. i fit the ethnicity, i'm not on welfare and i don't yet make enough that i'm paying 50% in taxes. but my taxes will probably be going up anyways when the socialist take over. Most W-2 people are in the 19% tax bracket. ...plus the 7.5% soc sec. ...plus the 7.5% that the company matches. The company has to pay you 7.5% less up front. But you only believe that you are paying 26.5%. If you are self employed, you pay the 10% self-employment tax, plus the "company" 7.5%. So, many self-employed people pay the 1099 rate... 19+7.5+7.5+10 = 44% I've done both ways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #9 May 10, 2008 Quote Most W-2 people are in the 19% tax bracket. ...plus the 7.5% soc sec. ...plus the 7.5% that the company matches. The company has to pay you 7.5% less up front. But you only believe that you are paying 26.5%. If you are self employed, you pay the 10% self-employment tax, plus the "company" 7.5%. So, many self-employed people pay the 1099 rate... 19+7.5+7.5+10 = 44% I've done both ways. What 10% tax did you just make up? There's no 19% bracket either. And it's 7.65% for each share of FICA up to 10x,000. California throws in a .8% disability insurance, along with the 9.4% marginal rate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #10 May 10, 2008 Quote So, many self-employed people pay the 1099 rate... 19+7.5+7.5+10 = 44% This is not true, since there is no "self employer tax" - you just have to pay those other 7.5% of SS tax. So it should be 7.5 + 7.5 + 19; however since first 7.5 + 7.5 paid reduce your Fed adjusted gross income (unfortunately not state income), you're paying 19% from the rest, not from the total amount.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymiles 3 #11 May 12, 2008 QuoteQuoteIs that code for racist/bigot? I believe in some social circles it's the definition. So in other words, bigots hold the balance of power in this country. Didn't Karl Rove use this fact to get Bush elected? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #12 May 12, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteIs that code for racist/bigot? I believe in some social circles it's the definition. So in other words, bigots hold the balance of power in this country. Didn't Karl Rove use this fact to get Bush elected? Usually, when you say "in other words" then the next bit should paraphrase the stuff you replied to. In other words, skydiving is fun. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymiles 3 #13 May 12, 2008 QuoteUsually, when you say "in other words" then the next bit should paraphrase the stuff you replied to. In other words, skydiving is fun. (Point well taken.) By extension then, bigots... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #14 May 12, 2008 Quote Quote Usually, when you say "in other words" then the next bit should paraphrase the stuff you replied to. In other words, skydiving is fun. (Point well taken.) By extension then, bigots... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #15 May 12, 2008 Anybody see the opening skit on SNL? Very funny poking of fun at Hillary." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #16 May 13, 2008 Well, I'm white, working class and I'm voting. For Obama this fall. Because Heil Hillary would NEVER play the race card, she's "not" playing it by appealing to white working class voters. Especially those who would be happy to play the race card for her, because she would NEVER stoop to such a thing. She apparently believes her darling white boys have also got over the idea of voting for a woman, because she is after all a white woman (though she would NEVER call attention to herself that way). Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #17 May 13, 2008 Probably is in some circles - those populated by cowards who support racial discrimination under the guise of affirmative action, won't admit that they're racists, and then attempt to project that image onto others. They'll be voting in hordes for the Democratic candidate this November. Granted, not all Democrats are racists, but those who use 'white working class voters' and like phrases certainly are and their candidate of choice and/or his/her sycophants will be blasting John McCain et al for being racist leading up to Nov in all likelihood. Hard to give anyone who supports racial discrimination for collegiate admission and attends a debate hosted by Al $harpton any credibility, but some appear to do so - on the left that is. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites