ypelchat 0 #126 September 18, 2008 QuoteHowever you look at it, Boeing's breathing a sigh of relief. They need some time to get their own damn house back in order. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a4We6w9UvVPQ&refer=home But they need time to sharpen their pencil even more. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091702857.html Yves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,356 #127 September 18, 2008 At this point it's probably time to stop the whole "competitive bid" and "saving the taxpayer money" charade and just pay Boeing whatever they ask for whatever they want to give us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ypelchat 0 #128 September 19, 2008 QuoteAt this point it's probably time to stop the whole "competitive bid" and "saving the taxpayer money" charade and just pay Boeing whatever they ask for whatever they want to give us. For Boeing, it's a win-win situation. The more they whine and/or drag their feet in submitting the USAF with a decent proposal for the replacement of the KC-135, the longer it'll take to replace said aircrafts. They know it. It's like baseball. Strike 1 .... 2003 Strike 2 .... 2008 Strike 3 .... ????? In the meantime, Boeing gets the contract to extend the useful life of the tired old KC-135, past their expected useful life... New engines...new avionics...new everything... They collect the taxpayer's money, but the servicemen will still operate outdated material. Pure economics. How to win... when you lose. Yves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 14 #129 September 19, 2008 Plus with the on going labor strike at Boeing they need all the time they can get to be able to keep to their delivery times that they first projected in their proposal. Getting pushed until 2009 for a decision is a huge win for Boeing.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,356 #130 September 19, 2008 >They collect the taxpayer's money . . . . . . and then go on strike again. Years ago, a good thing about working with US companies was that they didn't go on strike every other week like the French seem to. Unfortunately we are learning fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #131 September 19, 2008 Quote Quote At this point it's probably time to stop the whole "competitive bid" and "saving the taxpayer money" charade and just pay Boeing whatever they ask for whatever they want to give us. For Boeing, it's a win-win situation. The more they whine and/or drag their feet in submitting the USAF with a decent proposal for the replacement of the KC-135, the longer it'll take to replace said aircrafts. They know it. It's like baseball. Strike 1 .... 2003 Strike 2 .... 2008 Strike 3 .... ????? In the meantime, Boeing gets the contract to extend the useful life of the tired old KC-135, past their expected useful life... New engines...new avionics...new everything... They collect the taxpayer's money, but the servicemen will still operate outdated material. Pure economics. How to win... when you lose. Yves. Unfortunately, you captured it perfectly. As a shareholder of Boeing, I do not support this strategy. I want them to knock this out and be done with it, win or lose (of course I prefer win). As you noted, they had two golden opportunities, but they aren't the only clever company involved in this. Northrup/EADS now has time to polish their proposal as well, and the USAF, who bumbled the first two RFPs, now gets to screw with it a third time. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites