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Then quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple lifeQuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
Muenkel 0
QuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
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I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
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Then quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple life
There's an idea, quit buying from the corporations. Who cares about all the jobs that will be lost. Greed is evil, but Capitalism is not.
Guess what happens when unemployment goes up? Consumer spending goes down. Interest rates go up. We have inflation. It's called a recession. Last I heard, those were bad.
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Chris
kallend 1,621
QuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
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I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
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Then quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple life
There's an idea, quit buying from the corporations. Who cares about all the jobs that will be lost. Greed is evil, but Capitalism is not.
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You're assuming the stuff we buy is made in the USA. Taken a stroll through a Wal-Mart lately?
I was given a US Air Force coffee mug at an AF event last weekend. On the bottom it states "Made in China".
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Lefty 0
QuoteThen quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple lifeQuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
Psst, raising corporate taxes will make your cigarettes cost more too.
Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful.
-Calvin
-Calvin
kallend 1,621
QuoteQuoteThen quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple lifeQuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
Psst, raising corporate taxes will make your cigarettes cost more too.
If the govt. has to raise $X, then raising corporation taxes means the expensive high powered tax lawyers work for all of us to keep our prices down. If they raise income taxes, the high powered lawyers only work for the wealthy who can afford them.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteThen quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple lifeQuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
Psst, raising corporate taxes will make your cigarettes cost more too.
If the govt. has to raise $X, then raising corporation taxes means the expensive high powered tax lawyerswork for all of us to keep our prices downhelp the corporations find loopholes, and the corporations raise prices as much as they think they can get away with to offset the tax. If they raise income taxes, the high powered lawyers only work for the wealthy who can afford them.
Fixed that for you.
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
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A war based on falsehoods that has not improved America's security, has killed over 3,000 American service personnel and countless tens of thousands of Iraqis, has assisted Al Qaeda regain its strength and recruit supporters, has reduced stability in the Middle East, has hindered US diplomacy worldwide, has made France look wise and the US look stupid, has strengthened Iran, has played a major role in driving down the value of the $US, has helped this administration rack up enormous debts for our children to pay off...
How does that $Trillion expenditure help our defense
99% of this paragraph is a lie or distortion.
I thought you despised lieing? I guess not since you are so good at it
I think you've got your numbers backwards. I only found 1% that wasn't accurate. It hasn't reached a $trillion just yet. The rest is spot on.
kallend 1,621
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThen quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple lifeQuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
Psst, raising corporate taxes will make your cigarettes cost more too.
If the govt. has to raise $X, then raising corporation taxes means the expensive high powered tax lawyerswork for all of us to keep our prices downhelp the corporations find loopholes, and the corporations raise prices as much as they think they can get away with to offset the tax. If they raise income taxes, the high powered lawyers only work for the wealthy who can afford them.
Fixed that for you.
But that's the whole point. If the corporations find tax loopholes, OUR prices go down. That's what Lefty claimed.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
mnealtx 0
QuoteBut that's the whole point. If the corporations find tax loopholes, OUR prices go down. That's what Lefty claimed.Laugh
If you've got ANY widespread proof of this, I'd LOVE to see it.
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
kallend 1,621
QuoteQuoteBut that's the whole point. If the corporations find tax loopholes, OUR prices go down. That's what Lefty claimed.Laugh
If you've got ANY widespread proof of this, I'd LOVE to see it.
Ask Lefty. I just commented on his claim.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Lefty 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteBut that's the whole point. If the corporations find tax loopholes, OUR prices go down. That's what Lefty claimed.Laugh
If you've got ANY widespread proof of this, I'd LOVE to see it.
Ask Lefty. I just commented on his claim.
Don't bother asking me. I have no idea what he's talking about. However, I am interested in how he mistook me saying "If you raise corporate taxes, prices go up" with what he apparently thinks I said: "If the corporations find tax loopholes, OUR prices go down."
Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful.
-Calvin
-Calvin
Shit. Congress is trying right now to raise cig. tax 61 cents a pack. They already tried and Bush vetoed it. At least he's done one right think. Guess it's time to quit anyway.QuoteQuoteQuoteThen quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple lifeQuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
Psst, raising corporate taxes will make your cigarettes cost more too.
If the govt. has to raise $X, then raising corporation taxes means the expensive high powered tax lawyers work for all of us to keep our prices down. If they raise income taxes, the high powered lawyers only work for the wealthy who can afford them.
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I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
Shit. I just bought T shirts from my union hall and we regularly get T shirts and jackets and all kinds of shit on on our union jobs. Guess what. Every fucking thing is made in a country out of the U.S. What's wrong w/ this picture?QuoteQuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
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I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
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Then quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple life
There's an idea, quit buying from the corporations. Who cares about all the jobs that will be lost. Greed is evil, but Capitalism is not.
.
You're assuming the stuff we buy is made in the USA. Taken a stroll through a Wal-Mart lately?
I was given a US Air Force coffee mug at an AF event last weekend. On the bottom it states "Made in China".
I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
Lefty 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThen quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple lifeQuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
Psst, raising corporate taxes will make your cigarettes cost more too.
If the govt. has to raise $X, then raising corporation taxes means the expensive high powered tax lawyerswork for all of us to keep our prices downhelp the corporations find loopholes, and the corporations raise prices as much as they think they can get away with to offset the tax. If they raise income taxes, the high powered lawyers only work for the wealthy who can afford them.
Fixed that for you.
But that's the whole point. If the corporations find tax loopholes, OUR prices go down. That's what Lefty claimed.
I'm waiting to hear how what you claimed I said even remotely makes sense or bears any resemblance to what I actually said, Kallend.
Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful.
-Calvin
-Calvin
kallend 1,621
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThen quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple lifeQuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
Psst, raising corporate taxes will make your cigarettes cost more too.
If the govt. has to raise $X, then raising corporation taxes means the expensive high powered tax lawyerswork for all of us to keep our prices downhelp the corporations find loopholes, and the corporations raise prices as much as they think they can get away with to offset the tax. If they raise income taxes, the high powered lawyers only work for the wealthy who can afford them.
Fixed that for you.
But that's the whole point. If the corporations find tax loopholes, OUR prices go down. That's what Lefty claimed.
I'm waiting to hear how what you claimed I said even remotely makes sense or bears any resemblance to what I actually said, Kallend.
Are you claiming now that its a one-way rachet? Taxes = prices, but tax reduction != price cuts?
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Royd 0
But not his contempt for the man.QuoteSaying or suggesting that big bad evil Bush would allow our troops to "were all dead" is beneth your level of debate.
Lefty 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThen quit buying from the motherfuckers and save money. Downsize. Everbody want to keep up w/ the Jones. I live a simple lifeQuoteQuoteMe thinks more like raising corporate taxes.
I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
Psst, raising corporate taxes will make your cigarettes cost more too.
If the govt. has to raise $X, then raising corporation taxes means the expensive high powered tax lawyerswork for all of us to keep our prices downhelp the corporations find loopholes, and the corporations raise prices as much as they think they can get away with to offset the tax. If they raise income taxes, the high powered lawyers only work for the wealthy who can afford them.
Fixed that for you.
But that's the whole point. If the corporations find tax loopholes, OUR prices go down. That's what Lefty claimed.
I'm waiting to hear how what you claimed I said even remotely makes sense or bears any resemblance to what I actually said, Kallend.
Are you claiming now that its a one-way rachet? Taxes = prices, but tax reduction != price cuts?
Ok, I think you're just a bit confused. When I said "Psst, raising corporate taxes will make your cigarettes cost more too", I meant just that. A tax on a corporation means they have a higher operating cost, a cost which they pass on to the buyer of their product. I literally have no clue where you are drawing some claim I made about loopholes, or about denying that tax reductions equal price cuts. Are you sure you're responding to the right person?
Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful.
-Calvin
-Calvin
I keep hearing you say "Raise corporate taxes". Who do you think pays those taxes. They pass it to the consumer. Do you think a big corporation is going to eat a big tax hike without passing it along to others. Come on man, I gave you more credit than that.
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