Congress begins to grow a pair

[billvon 2,396]

>I am dead on sir.

Then we are talking about two completely different things. Do you have a link to the bill you are talking about?

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>I am dead on sir.

Then we are talking about two completely different things. Do you have a link to the bill you are talking about?

Here's one linkhttp://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/1107/Senators_still_boast_about_bringing_home_the_bacon.html Here's the bill. Not sure how they hide the pork. I'll read it later. LONG READ. I doubt a fuckin congressman one read it in it'ts entirerty >http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1495Not sure if this the final verion but I think so.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

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>I am dead on sir.

Then we are talking about two completely different things. Do you have a link to the bill you are talking about?

Here's one linkhttp://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/1107/Senators_still_boast_about_bringing_home_the_bacon.html Here's the bill. Not sure how they hide the pork. I'll read it later. LONG READ. I doubt a fuckin congressman one read it in it'ts entirerty >http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1495Not sure if this the final verion but I think so.

Thanks for the link help. I did not have time earlier

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

Still glad congress "grew some"?

What a dam ear mark type joke.

And Bush took shit for doing this

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

Hey sir
Did you notice in the document that most of the tracikng and reporting requirments were lined out.

Dam good thing congress grew some balls huh

Who gives them the "oversite" you so support????

WAFJ!!

Bush did the right thing vetoing this piece of million pound bacon

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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And Bush took shit for doing this

And he is an asshole in my book just like the rest of these sons of bitchs! Stop spending! It's not that hard to do.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

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And Bush took shit for doing this

And he is an asshole in my book just like the rest of these sons of bitchs! Stop spending! It's not that hard to do.

Only we the voters can stop the spending. But we also have to support those who try. Bush, (the asshole as you put it) tried.

I will agree too little to late but hell man. Gotta give credit where credit it due

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Only we the voters can stop the spending. But we also have to support those who try. Bush, (the asshole as you put it) tried.

Veto on one bill is hardly a good effort on putting a curb on spending. A real piss poor record if you ask me. Here is some more pork for you in the defense budget. Plenty of of R's and D's so both are to blame!


Here are some of the more egregious pork projects added to the defense bill:


$25,000,000 for the Hawaii Federal Health Care Network, added by Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii).

$23,000,000 for the National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC), added by Rep. John “Jack” Murtha (D-Pa.). This is the project over which Rep. Murtha threatened a colleague for challenging in the spring. Since 1992, more than $509 million has been used to fund NDIC, which is administered by the Department of Justice (DOJ.). Ironically, DOJ does not want the NDIC and has asked Congress to shut the agency down because the department believes the operations are duplicative.

*$20,000,000 for historically black colleges and universities, added by Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) and Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.).

$5,000,000 for Project SOAR, added by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa), and Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Tom Harkin (D-Iowa).

*$5,000,000 for the United States Olympic Committee (USOC) Paralympic Military Program, added by Reps. Jim Langevin (D-R.I.) and Patrick Kennedy (D-R.I.).

$4,800,000 for the Jamaica Bay Unit of Gateway National Recreation Area added by Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.). The Gateway National Recreation Area’s website describes the Jamaica Bay Unit as “a wealth of history, nature and recreation, from New York City's first major airport and coastal fortifications to a wildlife refuge and pristine beaches.”

*$3,000,000 for “The First Tee,” added by House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) The program’s mission, according to its website, is “To impact the lives of young people by providing learning facilities and educational programs that promote character development and life-enhancing values through the game of golf.” First Tee won CAGW’s “The Taxpayers Get Teed Off” Oinker Award in 2004 for receiving $3 million in two separate appropriations bills.

$2,400,000 for the Lewis Center for Education Research, added by its namesake, House Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Jerry Lewis (R-Calif.). The center is described on its website as “a unique educational facility designed to improve educational effectiveness and scientific literacy among American schoolchildren.”

$2,400,000 for the Vertical Lift Center of Excellence-Institute of Maintenance, Science and Technology, added by Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) and Sen. Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.).

$2,000,000 for brown tree snakes, added by Sen. Inouye, which has been a staple in the Congressional Pig Book since 1996.

$1,600,000 for the New York Structural Biology Center, added by Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.), and Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). The center’s mission, according to its website, is to “increase our understanding of the role that proteins play in disease pathways and enhance the ability of scientists to carry out advanced biomedical research in a number of areas including the new fields of structural genomics, and proteomics.”

$1,600,000 for the Pat Roberts Intelligence Scholars Program (PRISP), added by Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kans.) himself.

$1,600,000 for the Allen Telescope Array, added by Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.). This project first appeared in the 2005 Congressional Pig Book and has received a total of $5.6 million. It is part of SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), which describes the telescope as “dedicated to astronomical and simultaneous search for extra-terrestrial intelligence observations.”

$1,600,000 for the development of enabling chemical technologies for power from green sources, added by Rep. John Olver (D-Mass.).

$1,200,000 for the National Bureau for Asian Research, “a nonprofit, nonpartisan research institution dedicated to informing and strengthening policy in the Asia-Pacific,” according to its website, added by Rep. Norm Dicks (D-Wash.).

$1,000,000 for transforming waste plastics into alterative fuels, added by Rep. David Hobson (R-Ohio).

$800,000 for extended shelf life produce for remotely deployed forces, added by Rep. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.). This sounds suspiciously like a 2007 Congressional Pig Book project: $1,650,000 added by Senate appropriator Patty Murray (D-Wash.) to improve the shelf life of vegetables.

*$500,000 for the Maine Institute for Human Genetics, described on its website as “blending inventive research with emerging concepts in clinical care in rural communities,” added by Rep. Michael Michaud (D-Maine).

* airdropped in conference
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Way to go people! More bullshit rammed through. They bitch about the deficit but then this happens then they want to raise our taxes. I hope like hell I am not the only one who is getting really pissed about this!

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

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Bush, (the asshole as you put it) tried.

I will agree too little to late but hell man. Gotta give credit where credit it due

Yeah Right.....

His buddies have ripped off more than that..... by his excellent adventure in Iraq....

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Only we the voters can stop the spending. But we also have to support those who try. Bush, (the asshole as you put it) tried.

Veto on one bill is hardly a good effort on putting a curb on spending. A real piss poor record if you ask me. Here is some more pork for you in the defense budget. Plenty of of R's and D's so both are to blame!


Here are some of the more egregious pork projects added to the defense bill:


$25,000,000 for the Hawaii Federal Health Care Network, added by Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii).

$23,000,000 for the National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC), added by Rep. John “Jack” Murtha (D-Pa.). This is the project over which Rep. Murtha threatened a colleague for challenging in the spring. Since 1992, more than $509 million has been used to fund NDIC, which is administered by the Department of Justice (DOJ.). Ironically, DOJ does not want the NDIC and has asked Congress to shut the agency down because the department believes the operations are duplicative.

*$20,000,000 for historically black colleges and universities, added by Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) and Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.).

$5,000,000 for Project SOAR, added by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa), and Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Tom Harkin (D-Iowa).

*$5,000,000 for the United States Olympic Committee (USOC) Paralympic Military Program, added by Reps. Jim Langevin (D-R.I.) and Patrick Kennedy (D-R.I.).

$4,800,000 for the Jamaica Bay Unit of Gateway National Recreation Area added by Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.). The Gateway National Recreation Area’s website describes the Jamaica Bay Unit as “a wealth of history, nature and recreation, from New York City's first major airport and coastal fortifications to a wildlife refuge and pristine beaches.”

*$3,000,000 for “The First Tee,” added by House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) The program’s mission, according to its website, is “To impact the lives of young people by providing learning facilities and educational programs that promote character development and life-enhancing values through the game of golf.” First Tee won CAGW’s “The Taxpayers Get Teed Off” Oinker Award in 2004 for receiving $3 million in two separate appropriations bills.

$2,400,000 for the Lewis Center for Education Research, added by its namesake, House Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Jerry Lewis (R-Calif.). The center is described on its website as “a unique educational facility designed to improve educational effectiveness and scientific literacy among American schoolchildren.”

$2,400,000 for the Vertical Lift Center of Excellence-Institute of Maintenance, Science and Technology, added by Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) and Sen. Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.).

$2,000,000 for brown tree snakes, added by Sen. Inouye, which has been a staple in the Congressional Pig Book since 1996.

$1,600,000 for the New York Structural Biology Center, added by Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.), and Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). The center’s mission, according to its website, is to “increase our understanding of the role that proteins play in disease pathways and enhance the ability of scientists to carry out advanced biomedical research in a number of areas including the new fields of structural genomics, and proteomics.”

$1,600,000 for the Pat Roberts Intelligence Scholars Program (PRISP), added by Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kans.) himself.

$1,600,000 for the Allen Telescope Array, added by Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.). This project first appeared in the 2005 Congressional Pig Book and has received a total of $5.6 million. It is part of SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), which describes the telescope as “dedicated to astronomical and simultaneous search for extra-terrestrial intelligence observations.”

$1,600,000 for the development of enabling chemical technologies for power from green sources, added by Rep. John Olver (D-Mass.).

$1,200,000 for the National Bureau for Asian Research, “a nonprofit, nonpartisan research institution dedicated to informing and strengthening policy in the Asia-Pacific,” according to its website, added by Rep. Norm Dicks (D-Wash.).

$1,000,000 for transforming waste plastics into alterative fuels, added by Rep. David Hobson (R-Ohio).

$800,000 for extended shelf life produce for remotely deployed forces, added by Rep. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.). This sounds suspiciously like a 2007 Congressional Pig Book project: $1,650,000 added by Senate appropriator Patty Murray (D-Wash.) to improve the shelf life of vegetables.

*$500,000 for the Maine Institute for Human Genetics, described on its website as “blending inventive research with emerging concepts in clinical care in rural communities,” added by Rep. Michael Michaud (D-Maine).

* airdropped in conference
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Way to go people! More bullshit rammed through. They bitch about the deficit but then this happens then they want to raise our taxes. I hope like hell I am not the only one who is getting really pissed about this!

and the Dems stated they would eliminate ear marks.
then they passed rules doing it THEN, they removed those rules.

Ya, they are better than the R's

Thanks for the info on the defense bill. I had not seen that

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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and the Dems stated they would eliminate ear marks.
then they passed rules doing it THEN, they removed those rules.

But the Repub's are not helping and are a big part of the problem. I am having a really hard time trying to support any of them. This coming from a registered R.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

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and the Dems stated they would eliminate ear marks.
then they passed rules doing it THEN, they removed those rules.

But the Repub's are not helping and are a big part of the problem. I am having a really hard time trying to support any of them. This coming from a registered R.

Ab so fucking lutly!!! I agree. They had thier chance when they were in controll. The blew it.

Now Bush is trying to change his fiscal fuck ups. Toooooooooooo damed lated. I have never liked his domestic policies. I have stated that many times on this site. But I am labled a bush lover........... ah ....... well........ ah......... I am, But not a GW Bush lover

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[akarunway 1]

$2,000,000. for Brown Tree snakes in Ha. They aren't even there. > http://www.hawaii.gov/dlnr/Snake.html They must be terrorist snakes and they need the money to keep them out. In all seriousness isn't that a state problem? Take it out of Hawaii state budget. Why the fuck should I have to pay. I'm more worried about rattlers in Ca. and Fl. I just shoot the fuckers

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[rushmc 18]

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$2,000,000. for Brown Tree snakes in Ha. They aren't even there. > http://www.hawaii.gov/dlnr/Snake.html They must be terrorist snakes and they need the money to keep them out.

Good god dammed thing they (on this site) are celebrating the over ride by saying congress grew some huh

What a fucking joke

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>I am dead on sir.

Then we are talking about two completely different things. Do you have a link to the bill you are talking about?

Here's one linkhttp://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/1107/Senators_still_boast_about_bringing_home_the_bacon.html Here's the bill. Not sure how they hide the pork. I'll read it later. LONG READ. I doubt a fuckin congressman one read it in it'ts entirerty >http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1495Not sure if this the final verion but I think so.

Thanks for the link help. I did not have time earlier

Well, I guess that confirms Bill's point.

You're missing a few zeros, Marc.

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and the Dems stated they would eliminate ear marks.
then they passed rules doing it THEN, they removed those rules.

But the Repub's are not helping and are a big part of the problem. I am having a really hard time trying to support any of them. This coming from a registered R.

Ab so fucking lutly!!! I agree. They had thier chance when they were in controll. The blew it.

Now Bush is trying to change his fiscal fuck ups. Toooooooooooo damed lated. I have never liked his domestic policies. I have stated that many times on this site. But I am labled a bush lover........... ah ....... well........ ah......... I am, But not a GW Bush lover

Hey. Maybe all of we former Republicans and Democrats could become Libertarians.

After all, they say if the Founding Fathers were here today, they would be Libertarians!

for former Democrats & Republicans, it would involve sacrifices on both sides, but maybe at least a push in the Libertarian direction would be the healthiest thing for all of us.

A few (government-funded) sacrifices might be worth it, for a free country.

Just something to think about.

I think the Republicrats have had their day.

what's wrong with the USA having more than two dominant political parties?

Speed Racer
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[billvon 2,396]

>Thanks for the link help. I did not have time earlier

Ah, so you were off by a factor of 1000. Makes it hard to know what you're talking about!

>Bush did the right thing vetoing this piece of million pound bacon

When you start to support cutting trillion dollar wars instead of billion dollar dams I will start taking your newfound "fiscal responsibility" seriously. Until then - penny wise, pound foolish.

(We sure saved money on those New Orleans levees last time, eh? What a great way to cut costs! Maybe this time we can save some money on dams. What could go wrong?)

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>Thanks for the link help. I did not have time earlier

Ah, so you were off by a factor of 1000. Makes it hard to know what you're talking about!

>Bush did the right thing vetoing this piece of million pound bacon

When you start to support cutting trillion dollar wars instead of billion dollar dams I will start taking your newfound "fiscal responsibility" seriously. Until then - penny wise, pound foolish.

(We sure saved money on those New Orleans levees last time, eh? What a great way to cut costs! Maybe this time we can save some money on dams. What could go wrong?)

The NO Levee Board is spending millions on fountains and overpasses to casino boats instead of the levees....since we're mentioning misguided priorities...

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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and the Dems stated they would eliminate ear marks.
then they passed rules doing it THEN, they removed those rules.

But the Repub's are not helping and are a big part of the problem. I am having a really hard time trying to support any of them. This coming from a registered R.

Ab so fucking lutly!!! I agree. They had thier chance when they were in controll. The blew it.

Now Bush is trying to change his fiscal fuck ups. Toooooooooooo damed lated. I have never liked his domestic policies. I have stated that many times on this site. But I am labled a bush lover........... ah ....... well........ ah......... I am, But not a GW Bush lover

Just like your views on Global Warming went from 'THERE IS NO SUCH THING!!', to 'Many Respected Scientists Believe It May Not Exist' to 'OK, it might exist but man didn't cause it'.

With GWB, as your support became more and more ludicrous in light of his continued failures, you went from the most rabid Bush supporter here to claiming you never supported him?!?!?!?!?!?!?

It's your god given right to express idiotic, dogmatic opinions unsupported by fact or reason, but at least grow a pair and stick by your convictions.

The only question that remains, is who are you lying to with this most recent denial? Us ...or yourself?

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At least he's modifying his position as proof becomes available.

The converse proof to your claim would be the continued adulation by some of the Democrats by some, regardless of the proof showing they're just as dirty as the Republicans are claimed to be.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[rushmc 18]

You're missing a few zeros, Marc.

Ya, used and m instead of a b.

Point still made however

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

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>Thanks for the link help. I did not have time earlier

Ah, so you were off by a factor of 1000. Makes it hard to know what you're talking about!

>Bush did the right thing vetoing this piece of million pound bacon

When you start to support cutting trillion dollar wars instead of billion dollar dams I will start taking your newfound "fiscal responsibility" seriously. Until then - penny wise, pound foolish.

(We sure saved money on those New Orleans levees last time, eh? What a great way to cut costs! Maybe this time we can save some money on dams. What could go wrong?)

OK sir, so now that you have a understanding tell me. Should Bush have vetoed this bill?

Or is it just to damed painful to admit your post was wrong??

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

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and the Dems stated they would eliminate ear marks.
then they passed rules doing it THEN, they removed those rules.

But the Repub's are not helping and are a big part of the problem. I am having a really hard time trying to support any of them. This coming from a registered R.

Ab so fucking lutly!!! I agree. They had thier chance when they were in controll. The blew it.

Now Bush is trying to change his fiscal fuck ups. Toooooooooooo damed lated. I have never liked his domestic policies. I have stated that many times on this site. But I am labled a bush lover........... ah ....... well........ ah......... I am, But not a GW Bush lover

Just like your views on Global Warming went from 'THERE IS NO SUCH THING!!', to 'Many Respected Scientists Believe It May Not Exist' to 'OK, it might exist but man didn't cause it'.

With GWB, as your support became more and more ludicrous in light of his continued failures, you went from the most rabid Bush supporter here to claiming you never supported him?!?!?!?!?!?!?

It's your god given right to express idiotic, dogmatic opinions unsupported by fact or reason, but at least grow a pair and stick by your convictions.

The only question that remains, is who are you lying to with this most recent denial? Us ...or yourself?

A post of pure ingnorance, arogance and bullshit.

My position on Bushs fiscal policy has been the same since the medicare drug program and the federal bagage screeners. Care to throw another dart to look stupid.

(I thought throwing some PAs back would help you feel at home)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 1,623]

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You're missing a few zeros, Marc.

Ya, used and m instead of a b.

Point still made however

Point being that you're looking in the mirror again?

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[rushmc 18]

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You're missing a few zeros, Marc.

Ya, used and m instead of a b.

Point still made however

Point being that you're looking in the mirror again?

Care to address the thread?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln