billvon 2,380 #26 August 29, 2007 Both of you cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #27 August 29, 2007 QuoteBut you don't understand. The Dems don't have a personal problem with lying, cheating or stealing, therefore, they should get a pass. You are wrong on that assumption... but if you need to believe.. its all good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #28 August 29, 2007 Interesting list. Sexual predators disgust me. Nobody has ever told me why Bill Bennett shouldn't conduct legal activities with his own legally gained money. Must be that freedom thing that many leftists have an issue with. Malign him with the ignorant by stating that Mr. Bennett's legal use of his own legally gotten money makes his points irrelevant. The difference between the conservatives and liberals are how the rank and file react to the criminal activity such people. Examine the following list and see how many of the criminals below were ostracized from their party by the rank and file. How ARE Sandy Berger and Massachussetts' more conservative Senator doing these days? I recall Al $harpton being a presidential candidate for the Democrats - and never once did his opponents bring up Ms. Brawley - may I assume it's because of their tacit approval? The list - by no means complete. From Freepers: Harry Reid: unidicted bribe taker Jack Murtha: unidicted bribe taker William Jefferson: has he been indicted yet? Hillary Clinton: unidicted bribe taker Ed Rendell: unidicted bribe solicitor Ted Kennedy: unindicted murderer Pat Kennedy: unindicted (censored) drunk Robert Menendez: unindicted bribe taker Sharpe James: unindicted you name it Alcee Hastings: impeached and convicted judge/representative Ray Nagin: say, Ray, what really happened to that $250,000,000 ya got from the Corps of Engineers to fix the dike? The entire government of the City of Chicago: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman: bribes, telling fourth graders to bring gin if they are stuck on island How about some former office holders? Leo McCarthy: unindicted bribe solicitor Al Gore: unindicted bribe taker Robert Toricelli: unindicted mafia tool and bribe taker Jim McGreevey: unindicted bribe taker Marion Barry: is he still out of office, or is he back again? Bill Clinton: unindicted bribe taker, malfeasant, seller of military secrets to foriegn governments, perjurer, rapist Gerry Studds: unindicted child rapist Barney Frank: unidicted child whoremonger Wisconson Senate Majority Leader Chuck Chvala, using state employees to do political work and to illegally funneling money to a state Senate campaign. (19 other counts were dropped and Chvala served no time.) Former Sen. Brian Burke, felony and misdemeanor pleas Tony Coelho: bond market and stock market defrauder Gary Condit: murder Jim McDermott: "willfull and knowing misconduct" that "rises to the level of malice". Don Siegleman (former Alabama Governor): bribes Richard T. Hanna D CA: accepted bribes from South Korean government Otto Ernest Passman D. LA: accepted bribes from same, prosecution declined due to age James Traficant D. OH: bribes, racketeering, use of staff for personal benefit Daniel James White, San Francisco Supervisor: murder, and the reason Dianne Feinstein has a carry permit and you don't Miscelleaneous democrat criminals: John Wayne Gacy, rapist, murderer, democrat fund raiser Michael Skakel, Kennedy, murderer William Kennedy Smith, Kennedy, rapist Brian Doyle, dem activist child molester Neil Goldschmidt, Oregon governor, confessed child molester Rep. Mel Reynolds, D-IL child rapist pardoned by clinton Cynthia McKinney Robert Byrd Former Governor Edwin Edwards, LA: $400,000 extortion Sen. Daniel Inouye, accused of sexual harrassment Former rep. Nicholas Mavroules: plead guilty to 15 corruption counts Former Rep. Gus Savage, fondling peace corps volunteer Former Sen. Brock Adams, rape Former Rep. Fred Richmond, soliciting from a 16 year old Former Rep. John Young, sexual harrassment of staffer Former Rep. Wayne Hays, traded secretary job for blow job Former Sen Herman Talmadge: bribery, overcoat full of cash Former Sen. Alan Cranston: Keating five (funny how Keating, a republican, seemed to know to bribe democrats) Former Sen. Dennis DeConcini: Keating five Former Sen. Don Riegle: Keating five Former Sen. John Glenn:Keating five Former Sen. Herman Talmadge: bribery, overcoat full of cash Former Speaker of the House Jim Wright: $145,000 'gift' Dan Rostenkowski: chairman of the House Ways and Means committee House post office scandal Former Sen. Harrison A. Williams: Abscam Former Rep. John Jenrette: Abscam Former Rep. Raymond Lederer: Abscam Former Rep. Michael Myers: Abscam Former Rep. Frank Thompson: Abscam Camden Mayor Angelo Errichetti: Abscam Former Rep. Marrio Biaggi: Wedtech. illegal use of minority no bid contracting, bribes Former Rep. Robert Garcia: Wedtech Former State Sen. John N. Ford: bribery, "Tennessee Waltz" Former State Sen.Kathryn Bowers: bribery, "Tennessee Waltz" Former State Sen. Roscoe Dixon: bribery, "Tennessee Waltz" Former State Sen. Ward Crutchfield: bribery, "Tennessee Waltz" Former County Committeeman William Cotton: bribery, "Tennessee Waltz" Former County Administrator County Administrator Calvin Williams: bribery, "Tennessee Waltz," Judge David Lanier: eight counts of sexual assault (not harrassment) James Lanier, power broker, TN: corruption Secretary of Agriculture Michael Espy: criminal corruption charges Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt: lied to congress about Indian casino bribes Billy Carter: Libyan agent Ira Einhorn, rape and murder Sandy Berger: Clinton aide, theft and destruction of classified and incriminating documents Guilt by association department: Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., who would be speaker of the House, and the ACLU Foundation has contributed to her campaign. That’s the same ACLU that defends the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) John Huang: arranging $150,000 in illegal campaign contributions Maria Hsia: illegal fundraising, possible Chinese spy working on Clinton, Gore, Ted Kennedy, Pat Kennedy campaigns David Chang: illegal fundraising Ron Brown: fraud, conspiracy OMB Director Bert Lance: misuse of government fundsVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #29 August 29, 2007 I think we've proved that politicans preachers and celebrities of all stripes and persuasions can be lying, conniving a$$holes. Can we just quit publishing pages and pages of lists?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 August 29, 2007 Quote I think we've proved that politicans preachers and celebrities of all stripes and persuasions can be lying, conniving a$$holes. Can we just quit publishing pages and pages of lists? Gold star for you!!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #31 August 29, 2007 Quote The difference between the conservatives and liberals are how the rank and file react to the criminal activity such people. Examine the following list and see how many of the criminals below were ostracized from their party by the rank and file. Same legal system.... It seem my list has LOTS of convictions.. you you find lots of Unindicted instances Face it politicians can be crooks and can abuse their offices.. but PLEASE dont tell me that the justice system only prosecutes Republicans and give Democrats a pass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #32 August 29, 2007 We saw that list before. Seems a bit lame to blame the GOP for Ted Bundy. Immediately casts doubt on the rest of it, which has a lot more questionable items. Like the responding list of Democratic 'crimes,' just shows what can be produced by partisan beliefs and intellectual dishonesty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #33 August 29, 2007 Quote I think we've proved that politicans preachers and celebrities of all stripes and persuasions can be lying, conniving a$$holes. Can we just quit publishing pages and pages of lists? Don't worry John, you don't need to read the lists. If I see your name in one, I'll send you a prompt PM."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #34 August 29, 2007 Quote Quote I think we've proved that politicans preachers and celebrities of all stripes and persuasions can be lying, conniving a$$holes. Can we just quit publishing pages and pages of lists? Don't worry John, you don't need to read the lists. If I see your name in one, I'll send you a prompt PM. Cool! Thanks.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livetofall 0 #35 August 30, 2007 QuoteI'm not so sure why it makes a difference that he is a republican. I know your stance ... Republicans are hypocritical because they claim to be the party with the best morals. Still, the issue is this man took advantage of some kids who needed an advocate. If he is guilty, he should pay, and pay dearly. To politicize this injustice does nothing to safeguard these girls and distracts from the message that we need protect our children. JMO I'm with you, Steveorino, this topic coming from a resident of a "blue" state of washington, where our Senators got plenty of letters against the Immigration Reform bill which is a violation of our Constitution, BOTH senators of WA(D) , voted for it TWICE..AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT..these assholes, red or blue, dont give a shit..and anyone that wants to put the red state blue state as some kind of intelligence,money, or honor status is a true fucking goofball. Unions represented by dems, working man??? yeah right. Ron Wyden(OR) voted too along with boxer and feinstein(CA) I would be glad to email anyone the list of these people who need disposed of when the shit hits the fan..just PM mewww.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #36 August 30, 2007 Interesting we've never seen you weep and gnash your teeth over Bill Clinton, WELL documented SERIAL sexual and physical abuser of women. But when it's a Republican, we hear it . . . and hear it . . . and hear it . . . and hear it . . . and hear it . . . and hear it . . . and hear it. Your MO is obvious and singular, like a one trick pony. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #37 August 30, 2007 QuoteBut when it's a Republican, we hear it . . . and hear it . . . and hear it . . . and hear it . . . and hear it . . . and hear it . . . and hear it. And I will continue to point it out to the party of Immoralityand Family Values we have around here And for the record.. Clinton got a blow job...( whats wrong.. more jealousy) for such a brilliant man he he did far too much thinking with his little head like SO many more of your guys are doing. Trouble is even though you love to bring up the claims.. he was never convicted of any of it .. unlike so many of YOUR politicians that you seem to go on voting for.... nope no hypocrisy there in your party of GOD and morality. Why not just give up all that pretense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #38 August 30, 2007 QuoteI'm with you, Steveorino, this topic coming from a resident of a "blue" state of washington, where our Senators got plenty of letters against the Immigration Reform bill which is a violation of our Constitution, BOTH senators of WA(D) , voted for it TWICE..AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT..these assholes, red or blue, dont give a shit..and anyone that wants to put the red state blue state as some kind of intelligence,money, or honor status is a true fucking goofball. Unions represented by dems, working man??? yeah right. Ron Wyden(OR) voted too along with boxer and feinstein(CA) I would be glad to email anyone the list of these people who need disposed of when the shit hits the fan..just PM me You have got to realize that you just made threats against United States Senators.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #39 August 30, 2007 Quote And I will continue to point it out to the party of Immoralityand Family Values we have around here Yea, we know. No, Clinton wasn't convicted of beating or sexually abusing women -- but enough credible women with no political agenda accused him that I believe he was/is indeed a serial abuser with a real problem. It ought to just plain piss YOU off the way the guy treats women. Why doesn't it? Ever watch any of the interviews with Broderick? Did you believe her? I agree that those Republicans who espouse "Family Values", then get caught in their perversions are indeed Major League Hypocrites (and a laughing stock for me), but OTOH, sexual abuse is certainly not a "partisan" problem despite that you attempt to depict it as such. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #40 August 30, 2007 QuoteNo, Clinton wasn't convicted of beating or sexually abusing women -- but enough credible women with no political agenda accused him that I believe he was/is indeed a serial abuser with a real problem. It ought to just plain piss YOU off the way the guy treats women. Why doesn't it? If he did it.. then yes it WOULD piss me off.. but with the level of hatred of him from the right.. and the crap they rolled out and tried in every way they could to hang him.. I would think if there was any real credible evidence then he would be convicted like SOOOO many others have been. No political motivation????? RIIIIIIGHT.. I remember Ken Star and others spending a HELL of a lot of money to dig up anything on the Clintons I seem to remember several of his accusers were paid quite well by right wingers to come forward with their stories. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #41 August 30, 2007 QuoteIf he did it.. then yes it WOULD piss me off.. Even NOW, after a lot of hemming and hawing, finally gave Juanita's story credibility. Are you farther left then NOW, oh self-declared "moderate" one? She was indeed very believable, just about as believable as believable can be. Maybe some of the numerous Jane Doe's coming forward during the Clinton era were paid or otherwise politically driven, but not Juanita. Hell, I TRIED to appreciate Clinton, but his sexual abusing ways ruined it for me long ago. Clinton is a shitball of a man, much more so than Foley, IMO. As far as I'm concerend, him taking advantage of teenaged intern Lewinski the way he did is awful enough to qualfy for shitball status, don't you agree? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #42 August 30, 2007 Monica Samille Lewinsky (born July 23, 1973) is an American woman with whom the former United States President Bill Clinton admitted to having Not a teenager oh so well informed right winger...she went to work in the White House in 1995.. 22 years old.... and I know plenty of young women who are attracted to older scumbags like him.. POWER is a heady aphrodesiac. Lots of older guys dump their wives every year... for a younger trophy bimbo. ( I am sure he found her attractive even though so many guys seem to denigrate her for her looks)) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #43 August 30, 2007 QuoteLots of older guys dump their wives every year... for a younger trophy bimbo. And they're all scumbags, Clinton included. Actually, he's even scummier because he didn't dump anyone, he cheated and lied about it. Keep the partisan blinders on -- I'm sure they're very comfortable for you. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #44 August 30, 2007 QuoteKeep the partisan blinders on -- I'm sure they're very comfortable for you. They are not nearly as opaque as yours and yours seem to be killing you with all the abuses your men of "high morals' are subjecting you to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #45 August 30, 2007 Quote Quote If he did it.. then yes it WOULD piss me off.. Even NOW, after a lot of hemming and hawing, finally gave Juanita's story credibility. Are you farther left then NOW, oh self-declared "moderate" one? She was indeed very believable, just about as believable as believable can be. Maybe some of the numerous Jane Doe's coming forward during the Clinton era were paid or otherwise politically driven, but not Juanita. Hell, I TRIED to appreciate Clinton, but his sexual abusing ways ruined it for me long ago. Clinton is a shitball of a man, much more so than Foley, IMO. As far as I'm concerend, him taking advantage of teenaged intern Lewinski the way he did is awful enough to qualfy for shitball status, don't you agree? Sweetie, I realize rhetoric is your long suit, but Monica was 22 at the time. Nice twist though. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #46 August 30, 2007 Quote Sweetie, I realize rhetoric is your long suit, but Monica was 22 at the time. Nice twist though. I missed the correct age, but my argument that Clinton is a creepy lecher (and much, much worse) stands. From the perspective of a man as old as Bill Clinton, there is no difference between 19 and 22. Both are "kids". Edit: spellin' . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #47 August 30, 2007 QuoteQuoteKeep the partisan blinders on -- I'm sure they're very comfortable for you. They are not nearly as opaque as yours and yours seem to be killing you with all the abuses your men of "high morals' are subjecting you to. Start creating post after post regarding the sexual perversions of democrats and you'll actually have a valid point, not just a lame PA. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #48 August 30, 2007 QuoteTrouble is even though you love to bring up the claims.. he was never convicted of any of it .. unlike so many of YOUR politicians that you seem to go on voting for.... nope no hypocrisy there in your party of GOD and morality. Why not just give up all that pretense In your long post of GOP bad boys, you seemed fine with charges that lacked convictions. So it's pretty obvious your viewpoint is partisan on the matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites