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Then why is it so difficult to find evidence of child molestation by Democrats in the kind of numbers you do for Republicans?

Selective vision, I'm sure.

Then by all means, be my guest and show me where all of the Democrat child molesters are hiding.

http://www.google.com

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If you find anything, I'd be very happy to read it.

Rep. Fred Richmond (D-N.Y.)
In April 1978, Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he "made bad judgments involving my private life." In spite of a Democratic primary opponent's attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion – and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him – he resigned his seat.

Sen. Brock Adams (D-Wash.)
On Sept. 27, 1988, Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams's longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams's house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.

Rep. Gus Savage (D-Ill.)
The Washington Post reported on July 19, 1989, that Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he "never intended to offend" her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.

Rep. Mel Reynolds (D-Ill.)
Freshman Reynolds was indicted on Aug. 19, 1994, on charges of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker and then pressuring her to lie about it. Reynolds, who is black, denied the charges and said the investigation was racially motivated. The GOP belatedly put up a write-in candidate for November, but Reynolds dispatched him in the overwhelmingly Democratic district with little effort. Reynolds was convicted on Aug. 22, 1995 of 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography, was sentenced to five years in prison, and resigned his seat on October 1.

This is just in Congress between 1978 and 1994. There are some Republicans in there, too, but I left them out because you asked us to find Democrats.

Somehow, I think things like sex crimes, bribery, etc., transcend party lines.

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If you find anything, I'd be very happy to read it.

Rep. Fred Richmond (D-N.Y.)
In April 1978, Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he "made bad judgments involving my private life." In spite of a Democratic primary opponent's attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion – and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him – he resigned his seat.

Sen. Brock Adams (D-Wash.)
On Sept. 27, 1988, Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams's longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams's house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.

Rep. Gus Savage (D-Ill.)
The Washington Post reported on July 19, 1989, that Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he "never intended to offend" her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.

Rep. Mel Reynolds (D-Ill.)
Freshman Reynolds was indicted on Aug. 19, 1994, on charges of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker and then pressuring her to lie about it. Reynolds, who is black, denied the charges and said the investigation was racially motivated. The GOP belatedly put up a write-in candidate for November, but Reynolds dispatched him in the overwhelmingly Democratic district with little effort. Reynolds was convicted on Aug. 22, 1995 of 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography, was sentenced to five years in prison, and resigned his seat on October 1.

This is just in Congress between 1978 and 1994. There are some Republicans in there, too, but I left them out because you asked us to find Democrats.

Somehow, I think things like sex crimes, bribery, etc., transcend party lines.

Thank you for finding these.

I agree that crimes transcend party lines, but it seems that there are a hell of a lot more Republicans with their hands in Tina's cookie than Democrats.

And for these four? Like the brethren across the aisle, I say they get thrown away for life.

There is absolutely no acceptable reason why a child molester should get away with it. Regardless of party affiliation.

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Then why is it so difficult to find evidence of child molestation by Democrats in the kind of numbers you do for Republicans?

Selective vision, I'm sure.

Then by all means, be my guest and show me where all of the Democrat child molesters are hiding.

http://www.google.com

I don't have a dubious claim to support. Not my burden.

Common sense suggests that there is nothing that different about the two party philosophies to explain a greater tendency towards pedophilia in one.

BTW, if one really felt a need to engage with you on this, they'd start by confirming your list. Your statement that these events are all factual does not make them so.

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>I don't have a dubious claim to support. Not my burden.

To be fair, he has already supported his claim. You can refute if you choose, but "you didn't support it" isn't a valid comeback.

I think the reason more GOPers have been accused/convicted of pedophilia is that the majority party a) has more immunity to prosecution while they are in power and b) there are just plain more of them (because they're the majority party.) Had the democrats been in a similar position you would probably been able to populate a similar list with democrats.

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Then why is it so difficult to find evidence of child molestation by Democrats in the kind of numbers you do for Republicans?

Selective vision, I'm sure.

Then by all means, be my guest and show me where all of the Democrat child molesters are hiding.

http://www.google.com

I don't have a dubious claim to support. Not my burden.

Common sense suggests that there is nothing that different about the two party philosophies to explain a greater tendency towards pedophilia in one.

BTW, if one really felt a need to engage with you on this, they'd start by confirming your list. Your statement that these events are all factual does not make them so.

The facts are there for you to try to refute.

Good luck with that.

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Ten years later, the movement to make pedophilia punishable by death really picked up steam . . .

Yep, but much of the resistance to Jessica's Laws around the nation has come from . . . the left.

If most pedophiles are Republicans, why are Democrats so interested in protecting them from hard prison time?

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Can I use your list to start a website and make some money on advertising?

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>I don't have a dubious claim to support. Not my burden.

To be fair, he has already supported his claim.

You are wrong. He has done nothing to support "the number of Democrats who prey on children are far, far fewer than the number of Republicans that do so", any more than claiming today's above average high confirms Global Warming.

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>but I wouldn't use the word "style" so much as "crapulence"

Crapulence is a style. Like bloviating.

Frankly, I don't even see a difference in the "style" of the parties either. Not in terms of persona, methods, or crapuloscivitiousness. But, the try to give an appearance of difference. They try oh so vigorously.

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>I don't have a dubious claim to support. Not my burden.

To be fair, he has already supported his claim.

You are wrong. He has done nothing to support "the number of Democrats who prey on children are far, far fewer than the number of Republicans that do so", any more than claiming today's above average high confirms Global Warming.

And you've done absolutely nothing to even attempt to refute it.

Like I said yesterday, you are more than welcome to research all of the instances of child molestation by Democrats and post your findings.

Someone above you did it and found 4.

The list I posted has over 60.

Do you understand basic math or don't they teach that in school in North Carolina?



And to show you that this isn't a partisan issue, here's a lovely article that shows even the conservatives are getting sick and tired of the Republicans' bullshit.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Conservative_blog_declares_war_on_Republicans_0514.html

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Do you understand basic math or don't they teach that in school in North Carolina?

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>I don't have a dubious claim to support. Not my burden.

To be fair, he has already supported his claim.

You are wrong. He has done nothing to support "the number of Democrats who prey on children are far, far fewer than the number of Republicans that do so", any more than claiming today's above average high confirms Global Warming.

And you've done absolutely nothing to even attempt to refute it.

Refuting an unsubstantiated claim is a waste of time.

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Like I said yesterday, you are more than welcome to research all of the instances of child molestation by Democrats and post your findings.

Someone above you did it and found 4.

The list I posted has over 60.

The point you seem unable to grasp is some examples do nothing to confirm the overall numbers.

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Do you understand basic math or don't they teach that in school in North Carolina?

Tell me - How many Republicans prey on children? How many Democrats prey on children? Without these numbers, your claim is simple fantasy.

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And to show you that this isn't a partisan issue, here's a lovely article that shows even the conservatives are getting sick and tired of the Republicans' bullshit.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Conservative_blog_declares_war_on_Republicans_0514.html

I'm staggered.

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> He has done nothing to support "the number of Democrats who prey
>on children are far, far fewer than the number of Republicans that do so"

He has listed a very large number of republicans who have been accused or convicted of sex crimes with underage kids. That indicates that it is a bigger problem with republicans than democrats; indeed, that list is the only bit of data that CAN prove it.

You can easily dispute this by posting a larger list of democrats accused/convicted of the same crimes. If you don't want to, that's fine. However, your failure to do so does not "prove your point" - indeed, it does the opposite.

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He has listed a very large number of republicans who have been accused or convicted of sex crimes with underage kids. That indicates that it is a bigger problem with republicans than democrats; indeed, that list is the only bit of data that CAN prove it.

You can easily dispute this by posting a larger list of democrats accused/convicted of the same crimes. If you don't want to, that's fine. However, your failure to do so does not "prove your point" - indeed, it does the opposite.

That list is RECENT.. and fairly current of those in the party who abuse their power and position..

The Ultra Righties will probably have to go back to the inception of the Democratic Party in the 19th century to match it but I seriously doubt they can.

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>Do you understand basic math or don't they teach that in school in North Carolina?

Your one warning.

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>Do you understand basic math or don't they teach that in school in North Carolina?

Your one warning.

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> He has done nothing to support "the number of Democrats who prey
>on children are far, far fewer than the number of Republicans that do so"

He has listed a very large number of republicans who have been accused or convicted of sex crimes with underage kids. That indicates that it is a bigger problem with republicans than democrats; indeed, that list is the only bit of data that CAN prove it.

You can easily dispute this by posting a larger list of democrats accused/convicted of the same crimes. If you don't want to, that's fine. However, your failure to do so does not "prove your point" - indeed, it does the opposite.

He's using the logical fallacy of hasty generalization.

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Do you understand basic math or don't they teach that in school in North Carolina?

Nice PA... now, take a look at the proven "lean to the left" of the national media - that is definitely a factor in your "proven list"...

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Do you understand basic math or don't they teach that in school in North Carolina?

Nice PA... now, take a look at the proven "lean to the left" of the national media - that is definitely a factor in your "proven list"...

Your perception of a 'liberal media' clouds your ability to see the truth.

[url=http://www.armchairsubversive.org/]Here's[/url] the link for the source of the list. If you click on the names of each of these fine, upstanding Republicans, you'll get a link to the articles from around the world that expose them for the pedophiles that they are.


Why are you such a staunch defender of pedophiles?

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>now, take a look at the proven "lean to the left" of the national media . . .

If that's true, then there are an equal number of republican and democratic offenders, and the information should be readily available; the media is just "emphasizing" one over the other. Since there are dozens of very conservative talk shows and news outlets, and thousands of extreme right wing bloggers, they surely have done the same and created a similar list of democrats.

If you produce that list, you will prove your point.

If you cannot, that's fairly telling.

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Since there are dozens of very conservative talk shows and news outlets, and thousands of extreme right wing bloggers, they surely have done the same and created a similar list of democrats.

More logical fallacies courtesy of Billvon.

Has it occurred to you that this is basically a non-issue, that one (or maybe few) little lefties are pushing to create a dustup?

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Since there are dozens of very conservative talk shows and news outlets, and thousands of extreme right wing bloggers, they surely have done the same and created a similar list of democrats.

More logical fallacies courtesy of Billvon.

Has it occurred to you that this is basically a non-issue, that one (or maybe few) little lefties are pushing to create a dustup?

I quoting you to get on record that you think there is nothing wrong with child molestation.

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Since there are dozens of very conservative talk shows and news outlets, and thousands of extreme right wing bloggers, they surely have done the same and created a similar list of democrats.

More logical fallacies courtesy of Billvon.

Has it occurred to you that this is basically a non-issue, that one (or maybe few) little lefties are pushing to create a dustup?

I quoting you to get on record that you think there is nothing wrong with child molestation.

You seem to be subscribing to the Rush Limbaugh school of thought that unless someone is with you on tangential side issues, then they wholeheartedly side with the opposition. Seems kind of myopic.

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Since there are dozens of very conservative talk shows and news outlets, and thousands of extreme right wing bloggers, they surely have done the same and created a similar list of democrats.

More logical fallacies courtesy of Billvon.

Has it occurred to you that this is basically a non-issue, that one (or maybe few) little lefties are pushing to create a dustup?

I quoting you to get on record that you think there is nothing wrong with child molestation.

You should work on your reading comprehension.

Sorry, chief, but you're the one who thinks that child molestation is a "non-issue".

Do you have children? If so, perhaps the North Carolina Child Protective Services would be interested in your point of view.

I'm sure they'll think that child molestation is a "non-issue" as well.