steve1 5 #1 February 12, 2007 I listened to Obama speak a few days ago, and I'll tell you it was listening to a breath of fresh air. I know that many politicians are good at "Talking the talk", and then not following through, but I like most of what this guy has to say. I'm just wondering if he can get the the parties nomination over Hillary. What do you think?....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 February 12, 2007 Obama doesn't stand a chance, Hillary is an experienced killer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #3 February 12, 2007 QuoteObama doesn't stand a chance, Hillary is an experienced killer. I think I agree with this. However, he can beat her in a swimsuit competition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 February 12, 2007 Sad but very true... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #5 February 12, 2007 Hey, well, judge for yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 February 12, 2007 Wayyyy sexier than Hillary No Contest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #7 February 12, 2007 this is starting to look like a Bonfire thread. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrodh 0 #8 February 12, 2007 QuoteObama doesn't stand a chance, Hillary is an experienced killer. I dont know if Killer is the right word but Hillary certainly has all the political weapons. Lots of Cash Pre-existing Fame Much of the Female Vote Nearly all of the Democratic Vote Failures of the Republicans + Bill Clinton ---------------------------------- Really its just basic arithmetic. I dont see Obama taking the Democratic Presidency over a juggernaut like Hillary but he will certainly be a great breath of fresh air to the seemingly polluted Political atmosphere as of late. Maybe he can be Vice Prez.2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #9 February 12, 2007 QuoteReally its just basic arithmetic. So is counting votes, but we can't seem to get that right, either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrodh 0 #10 February 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteReally its just basic arithmetic. So is counting votes, but we can't seem to get that right, either. Valid Point2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityJunky 0 #11 February 12, 2007 QuoteI'm just wondering if he can get the the parties nomination over Hillary. What do you think?....Steve1 REALLY DOUBT IT !! HRC has this one!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #12 February 12, 2007 QuoteI listened to Obama speak a few days ago, and I'll tell you it was listening to a breath of fresh air. I know that many politicians are good at "Talking the talk", and then not following through, but I like most of what this guy has to say. I'm just wondering if he can get the the parties nomination over Hillary. What do you think?....Steve1 Hang it up Steve.... The Liberals eat their own young!!! We've made jokes about it for years. Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #13 February 12, 2007 QuoteI listened to Obama speak a few days ago, and I'll tell you it was listening to a breath of fresh air. I know that many politicians are good at "Talking the talk", and then not following through, but I like most of what this guy has to say. I'm just wondering if he can get the the parties nomination over Hillary. What do you think?....Steve1 I believe he can, and most people around here are Obama supporters, not Clinton. I believe there will be a backlash to the Bush/Clinton combination being in charge of this country for so long._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #14 February 12, 2007 QuoteI listened to Obama speak a few days ago, and I'll tell you it was listening to a breath of fresh air. I know that many politicians are good at "Talking the talk", and then not following through, but I like most of what this guy has to say. I'm just wondering if he can get the the parties nomination over Hillary. What do you think?....Steve1 He might be able to win the nomination, but that only means defeat in the general election. Sad, but true. He'd make a nice V.P. right now though.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #15 February 12, 2007 I'd like to see him get the nod from the Dems, though I consider it unlikely. I think his only chance is if the Dems feel Hillary is unelectable come convention time. I'm not sure what the polls say at this time, but I would guess the only person who has a higher percentage of likely voters who wouldn't vote for her is Bush himself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #16 February 13, 2007 QuoteI'd like to see him get the nod from the Dems, though I consider it unlikely. I think his only chance is if the Dems feel Hillary is unelectable come convention time. I'm not sure what the polls say at this time, but I would guess the only person who has a higher percentage of likely voters who wouldn't vote for her is Bush himself. Hillary is unelectable right now. If she gets the nomination, she loses the general.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #17 February 13, 2007 I don't think either of them are strong enough to beat a moderate conservative. Maybe Clinton and Obama as a team...but neither has the juice to win the general, IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,354 #18 February 13, 2007 > I don't think either of them are strong enough to beat a moderate conservative. Ordinarily I would agree, but by 2008 I think the Iraq war will be going so badly that people would elect Jon Stewart if he promised to end the war - no matter what party he was. So it will come down to whether any republicans have the guts to buck the party line on the war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 25 #19 February 13, 2007 It's still a whole year to the Iowa caucuses and just look at how many candidates are comeing out of the woodwork in both parties. Maybe it's because Bush can't run again and Cheney's already made it clear he won't be running. But I've NEVER seen so many candidates this early. I think it's because everyone - in both parties - realizes we're in deep shit and had better start early, taking a good look at who gets the job next because we can't suffer another fool like the one we've got now. So can Obama beat Hillary ? Sure he can. Kennedy pushed Humphrey and LBJ aside in 1960 and Johnson was the fucking Godfather of the Senate. yeah, he can beat her, but will he ? Who knows ? It's going to be an interesting year. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #20 February 13, 2007 Hang it up Steve.... The Liberals eat their own young!!! We've made jokes about it for years. The thing is, that I'm not a liberal. At least I've never thought of myself as being one. I'm more of a conservative who's fed up with our present leadership.....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites