Islam Is A Death Cult, Not A Religion

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Sure, there are whacko Christians who bomb abortion clinics, but have you ever seen any of them hijack airplanes, recruit suicide car bombers, etc?


I lifted this from a blog. Kind of sums it all up:
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Muslims claim that their religion is so peaceful and superior. Let us make a little comparison:

A woman caught in the act of adultery was brought before Jesus. Her accusers informed him that she was a sinner and so, under the Law of Moses, she should be stoned to death. Jesus told the hateful mob, "let you who is without sin cast the first stone at her." The people saw their own hatefulness and hypocrisy and left her alone. Jesus forgave the woman, telling her to go and live her life, sinning no more.

The Koran tells of a woman who was raped and brought before Mohammed. He considered the circumstances, agreeing that it was unfortunate that she was forcibly raped. But then he ordered her to be killed, because she was now impure.

Based on this example alone, how on earth can Mohammed be declared the perfect example? A man who murders an innocent victim of a terrible crime can not be speaking the true will of God. Mercy, forgiveness, and redemption are not part of the message of Islam. Revenge, arrogance, and fanatical obsession with obeying dogma are.
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mh

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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Part of an interview of 'Ahmad', an Iraqi expat:

MG: Ahmad, Is Islam a Death Cult? Do you think that Non Muslims could interpret it that
way, what with all the Terrorism, Subjugation,
Honor Killings, Dictatorships, Repression of
Rights, Female Genital Mutilations, Internecine
Battles Between Various Sects of Islam, and a Generous Population of Radical Islamicists who
want to destroy the West and those of Us who
live in it?

Ahmad: I think it is more like a sick cult rather than a death cult. At least that's how I would interpret it if I didn't know better, or if I didn't believe. However, since I believe, I can say that Muslims and Middle Easterners are the problem and not Islam; nonetheless, Islam must be reformed, it must evolve. There are too many reasons for this sickness like backward thinking, fear of progressiveness, oppression, tribal traditions, being self-absorbed, etc. Muslims claims that Islam is a religion of love, peace and humanity; yet the most pathetic and disgraceful donations for the tsunami victims, many of whom where Muslims, came from oil-rich Muslim country!

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[Royd 0]

I find it amazing that people regularly slam fundemental Christianity, but give a pass to those in the Muslim community who say nothing about the radicals in their religion.

Silence is complicity.

[SkyDekker 1,121]

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I find it amazing that people regularly slam fundemental Christianity, but give a pass to those in the Muslim community who say nothing about the radicals in their religion.

You mean how the Roman Catholic Church spoke out against Hitler? Turns out the Vatican may have been helping Hitler in his plot to eradicate jews from the world...

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I find it amazing that people regularly slam fundemental Christianity, but give a pass to those in the Muslim community who say nothing about the radicals in their religion.

You mean how the Roman Catholic Church spoke out against Hitler? Turns out the Vatican may have been helping Hitler in his plot to eradicate jews from the world...

Wow, it only took three posts to get to Adolph!

mh

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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I find it amazing that people regularly slam fundemental Christianity, but give a pass to those in the Muslim community who say nothing about the radicals in their religion.

You mean how the Roman Catholic Church spoke out against Hitler? Turns out the Vatican may have been helping Hitler in his plot to eradicate jews from the world...

Try again, dude. That myth has been SOLIDLY debunked.

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Wow, it only took three posts to get to Adolph!

mh

It's easy to do when you're dealing with threads based on misguided hate. Let's put the shoe on the other foot. What would you think if some Muslim person in a chat room quoted something from Leviticus and then slammed Christianity as a cult of hate?
Man I hope you guys don't get the holy war you're after.

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Wow, it only took three posts to get to Adolph!

mh

It's easy to do when you're dealing with threads based on misguided hate. Let's put the shoe on the other foot. What would you think if some Muslim person in a chat room quoted something from Leviticus and then slammed Christianity as a cult of hate?
Man I hope you guys don't get the holy war you're after.

He would need to understand the context and difference between civil, ceremonial, and moral law of the Old Testament and their applicability. Big difference between Christianity and Islam.

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A man once fondled the Tooth Fairy during her nightly rounds. Brought before Mother Nature for judgement, he explained that he was a parasomniac and thus not responsible for his actions. His pennance was to give Santa Claus a rusty trombone, but the Flying Spaghetti Monster stepped in at the simple rimming stage and spared him further exploitation. Based on this example, can't Pan be offered up as the only truly benevolent prankster?

Islam, Christianity, and Judaeism don't kill people. Sick fucks who espouse them kill people.

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[SkyDekker 1,121]

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Try again, dude. That myth has been SOLIDLY debunked.

Yup, by Roman catholics saying...Well, that can't be true....

[wmw999 2,120]

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He would need to understand the context and difference between civil, ceremonial, and moral law of the Old Testament and their applicability. Big difference between Christianity and Islam.

Do you have a solid (by that I mean in-house) understanding of the context and differences between the various forms of law in the Koran?

I say in-house because it's easy to take things out of context if you don't buy into the context.

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That bog entry is an attack on Muslims, not the religion itself.

By all means we should be able to voice our opinions on a religion's principles, but it's probably best not to judge the people themselves. Everyone's views of what's right and wrong is shaped heavily by the environment they're brought up in.

It takes a conscious effort to admit to yourself that the rules you've always lived by, aren't really right - your parents, your teachers, your preacher, your friends - are all wrong, and the most difficult bit, admit that so are you. We all have our comfort zones, and don't like to think about living outside of them.

Ask yourself if you can you do this, or is everything you live by, just the best way to live, fullstop? Is every principle you live by, absolutely 'right'? How do you know for sure? Do you just know?

If we start to honestly question our very own principles, the most basic ones, without assumption, then we might realise that's it's not fair to attack other people themselves, as if they made a conscious decision to be 'bad', by growing up in a certain faith and way of life.

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We were fighting a war on terrorist long before you cowboys even thought of it. Guess what? It was/is a war between Protestants and Catholics both sides claim that thiers is the true religion and have bombed women and children shot each other just on the grounds that the other was the wrong religion for decades if not hundreds of years. Theres so much bollocks in this thread I hardly know where to start, but as I'm currently away on holiday I don't think I'll bother this can wait till I'm back. Hopefully someone with half a brain mght have already addressed the issue.

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[billvon 2,396]

>The Koran tells of a woman who was raped and brought before
> Mohammed. He considered the circumstances, agreeing that it was
> unfortunate that she was forcibly raped. But then he ordered her to
> be killed, because she was now impure.

Deuteronomy 2:

“And the LORD said to me, ‘See, I have begun to give Sihon and his land over to you. Begin to possess it, that you may inherit his land.’ Then Sihon and all his people came out against us to fight at Jahaz. And the LORD our God delivered him over to us; so we defeated him, his sons, and all his people. We took all his cities at that time, and we utterly destroyed the men, women, and little ones of every city; we left none remaining."

Numbers 31:

"But Moses was angry with the officers of the army, with the captains over thousands and captains over hundreds, who had come from the battle. And Moses said to them: “Have you kept all the women alive? Look, these women caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the LORD in the incident of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man intimately. But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately."

Pope Urban II, on fighting Muslims:

"On this account I, or rather the Lord, beseech you as Christ's heralds to publish this everywhere and to persuade all people of whatever rank, foot-soldiers and knights, poor and rich, to carry aid promptly to those Christians and to destroy that vile race from the lands of our friends. I say this to those who are present, it is meant also for those who are absent. Moreover, Christ commands it.

All who die by the way, whether by land or by sea, or in battle against the pagans, shall have immediate remission of sins. This I grant them through the power of God with which I am invested. O what a disgrace if such a despised and base race, which worships demons, should conquer a people which has the faith of omnipotent God and is made glorious with the name of Christ! With what reproaches will the Lord overwhelm us if you do not aid those who, with us, profess the Christian religion! Let those who have been accustomed unjustly to wage private warfare against the faithful now go against the infidels and end with victory this war which should have been begun long ago."

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You gave an example of someone who was executed for committing a crime. The Bible gives examples of how conquered people should be killed (if they are children) or raped (if they are virgins.) Its early proponents called for genocide regularly. And you consider the Koran to be the more violent of the two books?

[Darius11 12]

This is the kind of threads that I usually put under the to ignorant to reply to but it has been slow so here we go.

The first mistake and obvios show of the agenda in this post

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Muslims claim that their religion is so peaceful and superior. Let us make a little comparison:

I think everyone in any religion Christians Jews, or Muslims feel that there fait is the right one if they didn’t feel that way they would changed faiths wouldn’t they?

As for respecting other religions. Islam is the ONLY religion out of the major 3 that acknowledges all the other two religions. Accepts Jesus and Moses as prophets.


As for the comparing what Mohammed said and Jesus said there are more then enough references in ALL holy books that can be viewed as barbaric, and cruel in today’s climate. Can you deny that?

So other then trying to make more ignorant people hate all Muslims what’s the point?


Again I will repeat this. Islam is not a religion of Peace it is a religion of Justice. Without Justice there can be no peace.
I am guessing this has to do with the conflicts in the Middle East. If you read up on history really read up not just listen to what is thrown at you. You will realize the issues that have come up now are the result of being treated unjustly for decades and decades.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Darius>So other then trying to make more ignorant people hate all Muslims what’s the point?<

A good point may be to address such posts so as to prevent this mate.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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all reiligions are cults, you can only deny the truth of this. the catholic church aiding and abetting nazis(national socialists) is proven irrefutably, again you can only deny the truth of this

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Heh, Bill how dare you compare ancient Christian/ Islamic texts in such a rational way! We all know that God photocopied his exact instructions and that generations of self-interested male priests had no part in writing any of this stuff at all... oh wait... that's all total crap, of course they did!

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Islam is not a religion of Peace it is a religion of Justice.

So the truth comes out. As long as the Islamic world continues to paint themselves as victims, then that gives them the right to wage violence on all those who do not follow the Muslim faith. What's that which is written in your Holy Ka-boom? Death to the infidel? Is this your way on enacting justice? To kill all those who do not believe in the same shit that you believe in?

I said it before and I'll say it again. All you people who follow man-made religions (be it Christians, Jews and Muslims) are pretty ####ed up in the head.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[Darius11 12]

I don’t know where you have been but if you do a search you can see I have ALWAYS said Islam is a religion of Justice. The truth has always been out go head do a search.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[Darius11 12]

I am surprised at your knee-jerk reaction.

How can Islam acknowledge Jews and Christians as fellow people of faith yet at the same time want to kill all who are not Muslim?

The Justice I was referring to has to do with Muslims being murdered daily? Just since the new millenium 30000 dead in Iraq? God knows how many have been killed and tutored in the past 58 years by Israel.

I am not saying that Muslims are the only people who have been persecuted not at all. What is the cause of outrage is how people try to justify murder as long as it is a Muslim being murdered.

That would cause anyone to be angry at all who support and cause death and destruction in their homeland. The feeling of outrage in the face of discrimination is not just a Muslim reaction but a human reaction.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Again I will repeat this. Islam is not a religion of Peace it is a religion of Justice. Without Justice there can be no peace.

Sounds to me like Israel is taking a hint from the Muslims.

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Book of Armaments (Chapter 2, verses 9-21),

And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this, Thy hand grenade, that with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits... in Thy mercy." And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu... [Whereupon the friar is urged, "skip ahead a bit, brother"]... And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.

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[billvon 2,396]

>Sounds to me like Israel is taking a hint from the Muslims.

Yep. And the Muslims will take their cues from the Israelis, and so on and so on. And the holy war will last forever.

Up until recently I thought the Israelis might have the wisdom to break this cycle of violence. Ah well.

[Misternatural 0]

Well here we go again....A faction of the The "death cult" or as GWB now calls them "islamic fascists" has given us yet another reason/excuse to send more weapons, money,lives and resources over to the middle east. It is unfortunate that these militants are so steadfast in their pursuit of destruction so as to perpetuate the turmoil. The same can be said for us except we don't rely so much on religious fundamentals to wage war.

How can westernized cultures and third world religious nationalists find some common ground to build on?
It's not going to happen in our lifetime, will it be another thousand years before we live in a more stable globalized world where different cultures can operate on a reasonable platform of trade and dialogue?

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