JohnRich 4 #1 July 21, 2006 News from England:Rise in muggings A big rise in street robberies across England and Wales rocked the Home Office last night... The latest crime figures showed an eight per cent increase in muggings... This included a 10 per cent increase in muggings at gunpoint. The picture is even more stark if the Home Office's favoured crime measure - the British Crime Survey - is used. This polls 45,000 people about their experiences and it shows a 22 per cent rise in robberies. Violent offences have also gone up again...Source: The Telegraph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #2 July 21, 2006 here we go again. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,898 #3 July 21, 2006 >This included a 10 per cent increase in muggings at gunpoint. 10%? Statistically insignificant, and it shows that guns don't deter or encourage muggings or . . . Wait a minute. I forgot - guns aren't generally legal in the UK! Therefore, that 10% is a clear, unambiguous indication that guns in the US deter crime and make everyone safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #4 July 21, 2006 QuoteNews from England:Rise in muggings A big rise in street robberies across England and Wales rocked the Home Office last night... The latest crime figures showed an eight per cent increase in muggings... This included a 10 per cent increase in muggings at gunpoint. The picture is even more stark if the Home Office's favoured crime measure - the British Crime Survey - is used. This polls 45,000 people about their experiences and it shows a 22 per cent rise in robberies. Violent offences have also gone up again...Source: The Telegraph Like a broken record.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #5 July 21, 2006 Holy Crap. The Never-Give-Up-Man is on the road again - bwahahahaha... LMFAO How many years of your precious lifetime did you spent surfing the net to find out how endangered the British species is, or the European in general? Can't believe my eyes, JR, you're much better than Mr. Bean dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #6 July 21, 2006 Quotehere we go again. Theses would be great threads to start printing Monte Python tidbits - then at least it would be fun It would offset the angst ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 July 21, 2006 Quote>This included a 10 per cent increase in muggings at gunpoint. 10%? Statistically insignificant, and it shows that guns don't deter or encourage muggings or . . . Wait a minute. I forgot - guns aren't generally legal in the UK! Therefore, that 10% is a clear, unambiguous indication that guns in the US deter crime and make everyone safe. Bill the last time I pointed one at two assholes, it did deter crime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 July 21, 2006 Quote>This included a 10 per cent increase in muggings at gunpoint. 10%? Statistically insignificant, how do yu come to that claim? 45,000 surveyed is more than adequete. Is the rise meaningful or just a one year blip? Unknown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #9 July 21, 2006 Up 8% this year, down 12% last year, down 19% over the last 5 years, overall violent crime down by 43% over the last 10 years. Sounds a lot like background noise against an overall downward trend to me - but who knows what it'll look like as part of an overall trend when we look back on it in another 10 years. Homicides by the way are down by 12% - and thats when you include the 7% of the number who were killed in the 7/7 underground bombings (ie they would be down by a much greater proportion if you discount those killed in that single terrorist attack). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,898 #10 July 21, 2006 >how do yu come to that claim? Sorry, I initially thought that the 10% rise was an indication that crime goes up in areas that have high gun ownership. Since everyone knows that guns prevent crime, it would have to have been a statistical anomaly. But then I realized that it meant that muggings were up 10% in an area WITHOUT a lot of guns - so it is, as you say, a meaningful number. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,935 #11 July 21, 2006 I wonder if Houston's homicide rate is still up 50% over last year? www.click2houston.com/news/6215677/detail.html A wise man once recommended casting the log out of one's own eye before casting the speck out of one's neighbor's eye.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red_Skydiver 0 #12 July 21, 2006 Yawn, yawn, YAWN! The other day you started a thread stating that Englands homicides had soared. The annual crime figures actually show a 12% decrease. so now you try to attack us from another angle. Yes street robberies are up.... probably because people carry so much expensive stuff with them nowadays and it makes easy pickings. What we need are more police patrolling the streets on foot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,898 #13 July 21, 2006 >The annual crime figures actually show a 12% decrease . . . Right, but that's statistically insignificant. An anomaly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #14 July 21, 2006 QuoteNews from England:Rise in muggings A big rise in street robberies across England and Wales rocked the Home Office last night... The latest crime figures showed an eight per cent increase in muggings... This included a 10 per cent increase in muggings at gunpoint. The picture is even more stark if the Home Office's favoured crime measure - the British Crime Survey - is used. This polls 45,000 people about their experiences and it shows a 22 per cent rise in robberies. Violent offences have also gone up again... And to think that all these problems would simply go away if only we all carried guns with us. Just like America - where no-one's ever mugged? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,898 #15 July 21, 2006 > Just like America - where no-one's ever mugged? Well, you can still be mugged if you're not carrying a gun - and many americans are foolish enough to go out unarmed, helpless and vulnerable to crime. Carrying a gun would fix all that. Remember, you're safer in Baghdad carrying a gun than you are in Salt Lake City walking around unarmed. A recent study by the NRA proved this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #16 July 21, 2006 QuoteNews from England:Rise in muggings A big rise in street robberies across England and Wales rocked the Home Office last night... The latest crime figures showed an eight per cent increase in muggings... This included a 10 per cent increase in muggings at gunpoint. The picture is even more stark if the Home Office's favoured crime measure - the British Crime Survey - is used. This polls 45,000 people about their experiences and it shows a 22 per cent rise in robberies. Violent offences have also gone up again...Source: The Telegraph So I guess we won't be seeing you on vacation here this year then John.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #17 July 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteNews from England:Rise in muggings A big rise in street robberies across England and Wales rocked the Home Office last night... The latest crime figures showed an eight per cent increase in muggings... This included a 10 per cent increase in muggings at gunpoint. The picture is even more stark if the Home Office's favoured crime measure - the British Crime Survey - is used. This polls 45,000 people about their experiences and it shows a 22 per cent rise in robberies. Violent offences have also gone up again...Source: The Telegraph Gosh. These English people are a violent bunch aren't they? Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #18 July 22, 2006 QuoteSo I guess we won't be seeing you on vacation here this year then John. Not a chance - he'd be way too scared.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,898 #19 July 22, 2006 >Not a chance - he'd be way too scared. That's if he lived long enough to be scared! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 July 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNews from England:Rise in muggings A big rise in street robberies across England and Wales rocked the Home Office last night... The latest crime figures showed an eight per cent increase in muggings... This included a 10 per cent increase in muggings at gunpoint. The picture is even more stark if the Home Office's favoured crime measure - the British Crime Survey - is used. This polls 45,000 people about their experiences and it shows a 22 per cent rise in robberies. Violent offences have also gone up again...Source: The Telegraph Gosh. These English people are a violent bunch aren't they? Richards Ya, the piling on, on JohnRich is brutal...."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #21 July 22, 2006 Gun crime is on the increase with asylum seekers. Connection anyone? Albanians spring to mind1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billyg23 0 #22 July 22, 2006 word to that one Mr Copland......its got to the point in sunny weston super mare that the east europeans are having little spats with the english on weekend nights.....mind you we got 2000 of the buggers living round here......i am off in a minute to do a gas safety check on a house.....the landlord rents 30 houses to filll with them blighters to work on his mushroom farm...english people are finding it hard to get jobs round here... ooops i am off topic....how can i bring it round? ermmmm...pass me that shotty will ya? i'll free up some jobs. its time for crime.....gun crime!....oh and some proper decent immigration laws..... ---------------------------------------- I AM THE ATMOSPHERE HOOLIGAN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 79 #23 July 24, 2006 Quote... the last time I pointed one at two assholes... Couldn't make up your mind? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #24 July 24, 2006 I don't read newspapers to find out whats going on in my country any more - I just log on to Speakers Corner and let JR do the work for me. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #25 July 24, 2006 Perhaps we need more people with this type of mentality - just make sure to read all of the article.... http://timesnews.typepad.com/news/2006/07/meet_the_deer_h.html 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
