aftermid 0 #1 July 19, 2006 'In the case of the stem cell bill, Bush left no room for compromise. Using federal money for research on new stem cell lines - even those derived from embryos created for fertility treatments and otherwise slated for disposal, as specified in the measure - would mean sanctioning the destruction of human life, the president says.' How does he explain killing 50,000+ Iraqi civillians? I'd say he doesn't have much of a problem sanctioning the destruction of human life. I guess it all depends on how you define life. I think it is quite scary that in 21st century the most powerful country on earth could elect such a backwoods leader. Just remember this is the same guy when asked about evolution his response was: "the jury's still out on that one" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #2 July 19, 2006 although I agree with your intentions, this is a pretty simplistic & unrealistic way of arguing your point. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #3 July 19, 2006 Quotealthough I agree with your intentions, this is a pretty simplistic & unrealistic way of arguing your point. That argument was all over the loony-left websites yesterday, so it's no surprise it showed up here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 July 19, 2006 Kewl... yall are still swimming in the morality cesspool yet again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #5 July 19, 2006 Muslim lives are way less valuable than American cells. Bush has NO UNDERSTANDING of science, so this should not surprise anyone. On the plus side, most Americans disagree, and this will hurt the cons in Nov. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 July 19, 2006 QuoteKewl... yall are still swimming in the morality cesspool yet again. Whoever "ya'll is. If you mean me, I disgree with Bush on this. Damn, where did you put that pigeonhole? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #7 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteKewl... yall are still swimming in the morality cesspool yet again. Whoever "ya'll is. If you mean me, I disgree with Bush on this. Damn, where did you put that pigeonhole? I don't think Amazon assigned you to one end of the morality cesspool or another; she just pointed out that you are swimming in it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #8 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteKewl... yall are still swimming in the morality cesspool yet again. Whoever "ya'll is. If you mean me, I disgree with Bush on this. Damn, where did you put that pigeonhole? I don't think Amazon assigned you to one end of the morality cesspool or another; she just pointed out that you are swimming in it. Apparently, you don't know Amazon very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 July 19, 2006 Oh come on now Karl.. you support everthing else lock stock and barrel this administration does.... Remember when you ran him on MORALS issues...all the hot button crap the Ultra Right has been forcing down our throats for the last 6 years.. Your MORAL MAJORITY is certainly not moral... scnadals.. bearing false witness....WAR( yeah that is the ultimate form of hatred you always acuse anyone who does not agree with you of being filled with)...incompetence....arrogance.....gee all such good Christian Values as found in Biblical Scripture.; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #10 July 19, 2006 When I look at bush and this admin the following Einstein quote seems to fit: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #11 July 19, 2006 Obviuosly Bush has never had a loved one who was is paralized or lost a limb. It is just ignorant religious beliefs that are getting in the way. I bet if his daughters had a massive accident and were left paralized, he would think twice about stem cell research. It is fucking amazing the way people think. ----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,294 #12 July 19, 2006 Bush just vetoed the bill. His first veto ever. I don't think there is any doubt that the religious right has immense power over your current president. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #13 July 19, 2006 Can't veto any bills that toss money around like leaves, but one that could save lives...that gets vetoed. bleh.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #14 July 19, 2006 A true sign of the times that valuable scientific research is being restricted by the personal beliefs of our chief executive. His level of micro management makes the average bureacracy look downright flexible." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,294 #15 July 19, 2006 I wonder if the voices in his head told him to do it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #16 July 19, 2006 QuoteI wonder if the voices in his head told him to do it? Not only is GWB a moron, but he's a very dangerous moron. There we can agree on something right? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #17 July 19, 2006 QuoteJust remember this is the same guy when asked about evolution his response was: "the jury's still out on that one" What a goof. I'm expecting any day now that he will take the conspiracy theorist side in the debate over whether the moon landings were faked or not. I guess fair is fair though. The Reagan's consulted astrologers. At least Clinton was a good old-fashioned guy who just wanted to get laid. I'll take hot-for-the-babes over Bible-thumping senility or Bible-thumping fundamentalism anyday." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #18 July 19, 2006 What? Signing statements are outta vogue now?I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #19 July 19, 2006 Quote'In the case of the stem cell bill, Bush left no room for compromise. Using federal money for research on new stem cell lines - even those derived from embryos created for fertility treatments and otherwise slated for disposal, as specified in the measure - would mean sanctioning the destruction of human life, the president says.' Well, even if his reasoning is flawed and his positions are hypocritical, Bush at least got this one right. Edit: Right in the sense that there shouldn't be federal funding for stem cell research.Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 July 19, 2006 QuoteI bet if his daughters had a massive accident and were left paralized, he would think twice about stem cell research. Hell I would lay odds of 100 to 1 that if one of them got pregnant they would find some discreet offshore clinic to get rid of it.. just like back in the good ole days when it was legal elsewhere but back-alley coat hanger time here in the US of A.....and the rich sent their " problems" offshore to clinics rather than sending them to the poor but pregnant...unmarried mothers homes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #21 July 19, 2006 Should be no surprise to you that he Vetoed this bill. He made it clear way back that he would, and there does not appear to be enough votes to over ride the veto. Adult stem cells have proved to be far more effective for several decades now. So lets all move along now to other topic of interest, this one is getting old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #22 July 19, 2006 I think G.W. is just suffering from a case of cephalenrectism, or something like that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,827 #23 July 19, 2006 Quote Adult stem cells have proved to be far more effective for several decades now. Please provide a credible source for that statement.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #24 July 19, 2006 [reply Adult stem cells have proved to be far more effective for several decades now. That is wrong. In fact, adult stem cells are difficult to harvest and are quite limited. There IS some RECENT (ie 2002) research indicating they MAY be better than first thought, but embryonic is still considered the better version. In addition: Did you know that most couples choose to DISCARD their embryos when throug with IVF? The rest are preserved. Generally never to be used again. But yes, we must PROTECT these never-to-be used embryos so they can enjoy a fulfilling life in a nitrogen bath. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #25 July 19, 2006 not saying how I feel about this, but let's keep in mind that Bush vetoed FEDERAL FUNDING of stem cell research; he did not ban it from being done. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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