sid 1 #1 May 5, 2006 My favorite Holiday!!!!!!!!!!! Let loose your Inner Mexican, drink Tequila, eat Fajitas and shoot a badger, 'cause as Sancho Panza said, "Badgers....we don't need no steenkin' badgers" - sorry I've just been told that should be badges - nevermind about the badgers, but hey! Celebrate the defeat of the steenkin' french and VIVA CINCO DE MAYO!!!!!!!!!!!!Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #2 May 5, 2006 Grrrrrrr. I guess if you stay home and don't give an illegal immigrant your money - it'll be ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #3 May 5, 2006 What an awesome holiday! I think it's tequila time this afternoon! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #4 May 5, 2006 QuoteWhat an awesome holiday! I think it's tequila time this afternoon! ______________________________________ Acelebration of Tequila! Does it get any better? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beezyshaw 0 #5 May 5, 2006 STATISTICS ON IMMIGRATION 1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card. 2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens. 4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers. 5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. 6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages. 7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border. 8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal. 9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking. 10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County). 11. Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare. 12. Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration. 13. The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University]. 14. The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE 29% ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #6 May 5, 2006 QuoteSTATISTICS ON IMMIGRATION 1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card. 2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens. 4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers. 5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. 6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages. 7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border. 8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal. 9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking. 10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County). 11. Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare. 12. Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration. 13. The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University]. 14. The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE 29% ! ___________________________________ ...but...but... we owe it to 'em!? Don't we? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #7 May 5, 2006 Quote 11. Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare. I don't doubt this, but how do illegals get government assistance? steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #8 May 5, 2006 BEEZY!!!!!!!!! You are one of my favorite people in this bidnez, but don't spoil my HOLIDAY thread. This is Cinco De Mayo!!!!!!!!! It's about drinking good tequila, eating "tastes so good, but clogs your arteries" food and celebrating your inner mexican....... Viva la revolucion (now go take your illegals stuff to Speaker's Corner and let's go shoot some badgers!!!!!!!!!!)Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueskyserenity 0 #9 May 5, 2006 QuoteSTATISTICS ON IMMIGRATION 1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card. This statement is not true. Everytime anyone shops at Walmart, the grocery store, buys gas, buys clothes, etc. they are paying taxes, state sales taxes. In Athens alone our sales tax is 10%. They may not be paying the gov't directly, but they definately are paying taxes. Edited to add: You know I love you Beezy!! I like coconuts. You can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hisgoofyness 0 #10 May 5, 2006 Quote This statement is not true Beezy. Everytime anyone shops at Walmart, the grocery store, buys gas, goes to dinner, etc. they are paying taxes. In Athens alone our sales tax is 10%. They may not be paying the gov't directly, but they definately are paying taxes. True, but that is only sales tax. The taxes he was referring to is income tax (which is typically around 28% of your gross income). We, the citizens of the United States, have to pay that 28% on our gross income and then pay whatever sales tax, in your case 10%, when we go to spend our net income... There is a huge difference in what we pay vs. the illegals... Goudha is for Buddha, and that's good enough for me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sid 1 #11 May 5, 2006 QuoteQuote This statement is not true Beezy. Everytime anyone shops at Walmart, the grocery store, buys gas, goes to dinner, etc. they are paying taxes. In Athens alone our sales tax is 10%. They may not be paying the gov't directly, but they definately are paying taxes. True, but that is only sales tax. The taxes he was referring to is income tax (which is typically around 28% of your gross income). We, the citizens of the United States, have to pay that 28% on our gross income and then pay whatever sales tax, in your case 10%, when we go to spend our net income... There is a huge difference in what we pay vs. the illegals... STOP IT!!!!!!!!! are you all fucking crazy? Go to Speakers Corner with this shit - I'm talking Cinco De Mayo Baby!!!!!!! Eat, Drink! Celebrate the French getting their ass kicked - now PARTY (that's an order - and that is all)Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hisgoofyness 0 #12 May 5, 2006 Sorry to bring my rant in to the bonfire... I personally avoid SC... Those people are scary in there... This one just hit home when I read it... Anyway... I concur... Let's party... I foresee several Coronas in my future this evening!!! Goudha is for Buddha, and that's good enough for me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sid 1 #13 May 5, 2006 QuoteSorry to bring my rant in to the bonfire... I personally avoid SC... Those people are scary in there... This one just hit home when I read it... Anyway... I concur... Let's party... I foresee several Coronas in my future this evening!!! 'pology accepted, on behalf of my Mexicano compadres your absolution involves Corono and Corazon Tequila! ARIBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ccowden 0 #14 May 5, 2006 What religion does the holiday derive from? I mean, I think Christianity is the way to go, but society doesn't always agree, nor does the government always give society the rights we deserve as citizens. Of course, the problem is, there are too many illegal immigrants who are not paying income taxes and carrying handguns. btw- I think gun control is bullshit and abortion is wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 558 #15 May 5, 2006 What about the quiet illegal immigrants? They work hard, pay taxes and avoid contact with: gangs, drugs, petty crime, police, hospitals, welfare, public schools, etc. In other words, they pay taxes, but are reluctant to collect on services because their documents are "questionable." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sid 1 #16 May 5, 2006 QuoteWhat religion does the holiday derive from? Mine! The church of "PARTY ON!"Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,116 #17 May 5, 2006 Where did you get those statistics? Frankly, they sound like bullshit. 40% of the workers in LA county are illegals? No way. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goofyjumper 0 #18 May 5, 2006 QuoteQuote This statement is not true Beezy. Everytime anyone shops at Walmart, the grocery store, buys gas, goes to dinner, etc. they are paying taxes. In Athens alone our sales tax is 10%. They may not be paying the gov't directly, but they definately are paying taxes. True, but that is only sales tax. The taxes he was referring to is income tax (which is typically around 28% of your gross income). We, the citizens of the United States, have to pay that 28% on our gross income and then pay whatever sales tax, in your case 10%, when we go to spend our net income... There is a huge difference in what we pay vs. the illegals... Hense that i maybe why we should legalize them because the they would have to pay taxes also........duh! There is a reason why alot of them do not want to be legal, they don't have to pay taxes, and health care, etc. You cannot keep them from coming in the country. We have tried for years.----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #19 May 5, 2006 40% of the workers in LA county are illegals? No way. *** Not 40% of the people Wendy... 40% of the WORKERS! From what I remember when I lived on the left coast, that number might be too SMALL! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #20 May 5, 2006 QuoteWhere did you get those statistics? Frankly, they sound like bullshit. 40% of the workers in LA county are illegals? No way. I prefer this one: Quote14. The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE 29% ! 29% of what? As for the other stuff, you won't find me gracing any Mexican restaurants or bars with my cash today, or buying any produce, or hiring any illegals to do my yardwork or wash my car. And just like I didn't notice any effects of Monday's boycotts, I seriously doubt any Mexicans will notice any effects of mine. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 0 #21 May 5, 2006 QuoteWhere did you get those statistics? Frankly, they sound like bullshit. Sounds like he got it pretty much verbatim from this re-circulating e-mail, which is discussed on Snopes.com here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp (Took me about 5 seconds to find it. Just went to Snopes.com, typed in phrase "illegal immigrants" in the search box, et voila.) Edit: BTW, I join Sid in thanking you all so much for hijacking a nice party thread all to hell & sending it to SC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites beezyshaw 0 #22 May 5, 2006 QuoteBTW, I join Sid in thanking you all so much for hijacking a nice party thread all to hell & sending it to SC. My bad, I've sent sid a pm telling him I really didn't intend to start a political debate, I was just reading the email this morning and found it pretty surprising. Like I said to sid, hell I'm rodriguez bro. number 144! Let's go have a margarita! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stoneycase 0 #23 May 5, 2006 QuoteMy favorite Holiday!!!!!!!!!!! Let loose your Inner Mexican, drink Tequila, eat Fajitas and shoot a badger, 'cause as Sancho Panza said, "Badgers....we don't need no steenkin' badgers" - sorry I've just been told that should be badges - nevermind about the badgers, but hey! Celebrate the defeat of the steenkin' french and VIVA CINCO DE MAYO!!!!!!!!!!!! It makes me sad to see the holiday get wound up in all the immigration b.s....after all, we all know where the best Tequila comes from. I say we make friends and play nice. Remember what's at stake here: 100% agave, people. 100%! now where is my cindo de mayo hat....Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fasterfaller 0 #24 May 5, 2006 The only mexicans that will be at cinco de mayo will be the ones who are cooking the food and cleaning up after all the white folks there . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #25 May 5, 2006 QuoteThe only mexicans that will be at cinco de mayo will be the ones who are cooking the food and cleaning up after all the white folks there . ___________________________________ I don't do Cinco De Mayo... I'm not Mexican. I do remember March 6, though. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
hisgoofyness 0 #10 May 5, 2006 Quote This statement is not true Beezy. Everytime anyone shops at Walmart, the grocery store, buys gas, goes to dinner, etc. they are paying taxes. In Athens alone our sales tax is 10%. They may not be paying the gov't directly, but they definately are paying taxes. True, but that is only sales tax. The taxes he was referring to is income tax (which is typically around 28% of your gross income). We, the citizens of the United States, have to pay that 28% on our gross income and then pay whatever sales tax, in your case 10%, when we go to spend our net income... There is a huge difference in what we pay vs. the illegals... Goudha is for Buddha, and that's good enough for me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #11 May 5, 2006 QuoteQuote This statement is not true Beezy. Everytime anyone shops at Walmart, the grocery store, buys gas, goes to dinner, etc. they are paying taxes. In Athens alone our sales tax is 10%. They may not be paying the gov't directly, but they definately are paying taxes. True, but that is only sales tax. The taxes he was referring to is income tax (which is typically around 28% of your gross income). We, the citizens of the United States, have to pay that 28% on our gross income and then pay whatever sales tax, in your case 10%, when we go to spend our net income... There is a huge difference in what we pay vs. the illegals... STOP IT!!!!!!!!! are you all fucking crazy? Go to Speakers Corner with this shit - I'm talking Cinco De Mayo Baby!!!!!!! Eat, Drink! Celebrate the French getting their ass kicked - now PARTY (that's an order - and that is all)Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hisgoofyness 0 #12 May 5, 2006 Sorry to bring my rant in to the bonfire... I personally avoid SC... Those people are scary in there... This one just hit home when I read it... Anyway... I concur... Let's party... I foresee several Coronas in my future this evening!!! Goudha is for Buddha, and that's good enough for me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #13 May 5, 2006 QuoteSorry to bring my rant in to the bonfire... I personally avoid SC... Those people are scary in there... This one just hit home when I read it... Anyway... I concur... Let's party... I foresee several Coronas in my future this evening!!! 'pology accepted, on behalf of my Mexicano compadres your absolution involves Corono and Corazon Tequila! ARIBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #14 May 5, 2006 What religion does the holiday derive from? I mean, I think Christianity is the way to go, but society doesn't always agree, nor does the government always give society the rights we deserve as citizens. Of course, the problem is, there are too many illegal immigrants who are not paying income taxes and carrying handguns. btw- I think gun control is bullshit and abortion is wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #15 May 5, 2006 What about the quiet illegal immigrants? They work hard, pay taxes and avoid contact with: gangs, drugs, petty crime, police, hospitals, welfare, public schools, etc. In other words, they pay taxes, but are reluctant to collect on services because their documents are "questionable." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #16 May 5, 2006 QuoteWhat religion does the holiday derive from? Mine! The church of "PARTY ON!"Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,116 #17 May 5, 2006 Where did you get those statistics? Frankly, they sound like bullshit. 40% of the workers in LA county are illegals? No way. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #18 May 5, 2006 QuoteQuote This statement is not true Beezy. Everytime anyone shops at Walmart, the grocery store, buys gas, goes to dinner, etc. they are paying taxes. In Athens alone our sales tax is 10%. They may not be paying the gov't directly, but they definately are paying taxes. True, but that is only sales tax. The taxes he was referring to is income tax (which is typically around 28% of your gross income). We, the citizens of the United States, have to pay that 28% on our gross income and then pay whatever sales tax, in your case 10%, when we go to spend our net income... There is a huge difference in what we pay vs. the illegals... Hense that i maybe why we should legalize them because the they would have to pay taxes also........duh! There is a reason why alot of them do not want to be legal, they don't have to pay taxes, and health care, etc. You cannot keep them from coming in the country. We have tried for years.----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #19 May 5, 2006 40% of the workers in LA county are illegals? No way. *** Not 40% of the people Wendy... 40% of the WORKERS! From what I remember when I lived on the left coast, that number might be too SMALL! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #20 May 5, 2006 QuoteWhere did you get those statistics? Frankly, they sound like bullshit. 40% of the workers in LA county are illegals? No way. I prefer this one: Quote14. The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE 29% ! 29% of what? As for the other stuff, you won't find me gracing any Mexican restaurants or bars with my cash today, or buying any produce, or hiring any illegals to do my yardwork or wash my car. And just like I didn't notice any effects of Monday's boycotts, I seriously doubt any Mexicans will notice any effects of mine. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #21 May 5, 2006 QuoteWhere did you get those statistics? Frankly, they sound like bullshit. Sounds like he got it pretty much verbatim from this re-circulating e-mail, which is discussed on Snopes.com here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp (Took me about 5 seconds to find it. Just went to Snopes.com, typed in phrase "illegal immigrants" in the search box, et voila.) Edit: BTW, I join Sid in thanking you all so much for hijacking a nice party thread all to hell & sending it to SC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beezyshaw 0 #22 May 5, 2006 QuoteBTW, I join Sid in thanking you all so much for hijacking a nice party thread all to hell & sending it to SC. My bad, I've sent sid a pm telling him I really didn't intend to start a political debate, I was just reading the email this morning and found it pretty surprising. Like I said to sid, hell I'm rodriguez bro. number 144! Let's go have a margarita! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stoneycase 0 #23 May 5, 2006 QuoteMy favorite Holiday!!!!!!!!!!! Let loose your Inner Mexican, drink Tequila, eat Fajitas and shoot a badger, 'cause as Sancho Panza said, "Badgers....we don't need no steenkin' badgers" - sorry I've just been told that should be badges - nevermind about the badgers, but hey! Celebrate the defeat of the steenkin' french and VIVA CINCO DE MAYO!!!!!!!!!!!! It makes me sad to see the holiday get wound up in all the immigration b.s....after all, we all know where the best Tequila comes from. I say we make friends and play nice. Remember what's at stake here: 100% agave, people. 100%! now where is my cindo de mayo hat....Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #24 May 5, 2006 The only mexicans that will be at cinco de mayo will be the ones who are cooking the food and cleaning up after all the white folks there . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #25 May 5, 2006 QuoteThe only mexicans that will be at cinco de mayo will be the ones who are cooking the food and cleaning up after all the white folks there . ___________________________________ I don't do Cinco De Mayo... I'm not Mexican. I do remember March 6, though. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
