sneaky 0 #1 March 8, 2006 War Corporatism is the belief that a country engaged in warfare for a considerable period creates a corporate reliance upon war. The arms and related industries therefore end up attempting to control the outbreak of war in order to increase profits for their shareholders, large investors, and top corporate executives. War corporatism implies that companies who reap the benefits of war will constantly fight to keep the economy on a war footing in order to continue to profit and balance the economics of society as a whole. People critical of the US arms industry claim that the United States has become a prime example of war coporatism as it has been involved in near-constant warfare in some part of the globe since 1950, and point to the close ties of the political and industrial elites in the US. The links between Vice-President Dick Cheney and Halliburton are often used as an example. http://www.knife-party.net/movs/barry.mov Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avenfoto 0 #2 March 8, 2006 alright now, dont you start bringing up uncomfortable truths here in sc... next thing you know someone will be labeling you a victim of "the liberal media" or some other bs.... my take? its fucking bullshit (that its happening) and the majority of our current presidential administration belongs in jail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #3 March 8, 2006 Have you seen "Why We Fight?" It's all about that. Check out this thread. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 March 21, 2006 ITs absolutely amazing that Dwight KNEW who these people were and was seeing where they were leading our country. He warned us but not too many people listened. So how many wars have we had since he was in office??? WAR is very good for business...... just what is the personal net worth of the top leaders in this administration, and just how much has it grown under thier handling of our country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #5 March 22, 2006 QuoteITs absolutely amazing that Dwight KNEW who these people were and was seeing where they were leading our country. He warned us but not too many people listened. So how many wars have we had since he was in office??? WAR is very good for business...... just what is the personal net worth of the top leaders in this administration, and just how much has it grown under thier handling of our country. You beat me to it. I was thinking Eisenhower all the way as I read this thread. Corporatism is a function of Facism, so that's what I think.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism Corporatism or neo-corporatism is often used popularly as a pejorative term in reference to perceived tendencies in politics for legislators and administrations to be influenced or dominated by the interests of business enterprises. The influence of other types of corporations, such as labor unions, is perceived to be relatively minor. In this view, government decisions are seen as being influenced strongly by which sorts of policies will lead to greater profits for favored companies. Corporatism is also used to describe a condition of corporate-dominated globalization. Points enumerated by users of the term in this sense include the prevalence of very large, multinational corporations that freely move operations around the world in response to corporate, rather than public, needs; the push by the corporate world to introduce legislation and treaties which would restrict the abilities of individual nations to restrict corporate activity; and similar measures to allow corporations to sue nations over "restrictive" policies, such as a nation's environmental regulations that would restrict corporate activities. Critics of capitalism often argue that any form of capitalism would eventually devolve into corporatism, due to the concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands. A permutation of this term is corporate globalism. John Ralston Saul argues that most Western societies are best described as corporatist states, run by a small elite of professional and interest groups, that exclude political participation from the citizenry. Many critics of free market theories, such as George Orwell, have argued that corporatism (in the sense of an economic system dominated by massive corporations) is the natural result of free market capitalism. Others critics say that they are pro-capitalist, but anti-corporatist. They support capitalism but only when corporate power is separated from state power. Often they cite a quote claimed to be from Mussolini: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." However the most common cites for the quote do not track back to this phrase, and it is most likely an Internet hoax. [3]. Despite this, the alleged quote has entered into modern discourse, and it appears on thousands of web pages [4], and in books [5], and even a conspiracy theory advertisement in the Washington Post.[6]. However, the alleged quote contradicts almost everything else written by Mussolini on the subject of the relationship between corporations and the Fascist State.[7]. In the United States, corporations representing many different sectors are involved in attempts to influence legislation through lobbying. This is also true of many non-business groups, unions, membership organizations, and non-profits. While these groups have no official membership in any legislative body, they can often wield considerable power over law-makers. In recent times, the profusion of lobby groups and the increase in campaign contributions has led to widespread controversy and the McCain-Feingold Act. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #6 March 22, 2006 QuoteThe arms and related industries therefore end up attempting to control the outbreak of war in order to increase profits for their shareholders, large investors, and top corporate executives. War corporatism implies that companies who reap the benefits of war will constantly fight to keep the economy on a war footing in order to continue to profit and balance the economics of society as a whole. Lockheed Martin springs to mind, they have been making shitloads since WW2. Oh but thier products are for Defence only though right?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #7 March 22, 2006 Is this another one of those vast, right-wing conspiracy things again??Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #8 March 22, 2006 QuoteIs this another one of those vast, right-wing conspiracy things again?? Is this another one of those, responses w/o dealing with the issues thing? You can't blame CLinton for cutting the military, even though Bush 1 cut about as many troops, and still say the industrial military complex is the fault of the Dems. Which side of the fence?????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 March 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteIs this another one of those vast, right-wing conspiracy things again?? Is this another one of those, responses w/o dealing with the issues thing? You can't blame CLinton for cutting the military, even though Bush 1 cut about as many troops, and still say the industrial military complex is the fault of the Dems. Which side of the fence?????? The same answer as I always give the conspiracy cultists.... "Yawn - show me some fact, not hearsay"Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
