Another Palestine vs Israel thred

[Amazon 7]

I saw it... you replied to one of the more interesting people who dable in racism... and I know you and you are not.. so.. come on... let them be what they are...

I know the history all too well. Today is today... Today is when we can make a difference for tomorrow.

[Darius11 12]

The women have guys for them in heaven as well.
The point is heaven is supposed to be endless pleasure in all religions. So yes there is sex in heaven and supposedly the best kind there is. There is joys in heaven that we can’t even comprehend according to religious books and not just Islam.


I am just trying to make sure I end up in hell. There are a lot of cool people there. My guess is heaven is going to be really empty.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[warpedskydiver 0]

Amazon get off Darius's ass will ya? at least he has something interesting to say

[Steel 0]

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Darius.. its 1000 years ago or so... let it go already

Please don't give me that. Did you see who I replayed to????????????? Did you see that they were talking about history? If you did then I don’t need to replay to this.

Don't think that because, I don't sit here and repeat the same arguements agaiin, that your statement made any sense. In case you missed it, the Crusades did not happen until centuries later. Islam on ther other hand hit the road with severe violence imediately upon its creation and it has never stopped. You were asking previously why there were only 14 million Jews. The reason is because so many of them were impressed with Jesus that they became Christian. Christianity is thousands of years old, and if you go back far enough in any country you are going to find barbarism. The point is to improve with morality as time passes. The rate in which society improves in Muslim counties is just not keeping up. I think its because Islam is a barbaric religion to begin with, which is why I stand firm when, I say for the good of the planet it should be left to the middle ages. Its not about race, its about religion.

And one more thing Islam has never been spread to any country in the world peacfully. That says a lot.
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If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

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In Palestine it is the kids who are straping bombs on themselves. They are being told by their own people to do that. Arent Palestinians killing their own children?

Can you point to a source that says that the suicide bombers are children? It is my understanding that the most usual Palestinian suicide bomber is a 20-30 year-old male.

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I agree with Steel.
The real problem is Militant Islamists. Forget for a second Israeli-Palestinian conflict and look around the globe – virtually every major conflict involves Militant Islam on one (or both) side.

In Philippines Islamic terrorists of Abu Sayyaf commit bombings assassinations and kidnappings.
Indonesia – Bali bombing.
India – numerous conflicts between Hindu and Muslims (including Kashmir) and never ending India-Pakistan conflict.
Russia – Chechen conflicts (including Beslan school massacre).
Europe – London bombing, Madrid bombing, Paris riots etc…
Everyday bombings in Iraq and Afghanistan (OK many will blame it on the Americans and the evil Bush administration).
Recent bombings in Saudi Arabia and Jordan.
In Sudan – Ethnic cleansing by Muslim militia of local tribes in Darfur.
Nigeria – Muslim Christian conflicts claiming hundreds of lives.
United States – 9/11.

There are many more recent events I didn’t list to save space.

As for Israeli-Palestinian conflict…
Israelis tried to negotiate with Palestinians number of times with various degree of success or failure. But I doubt anyone can successfully negotiate with people, who can kill you over the f---ing cartoon !!! (not talking about land, or historical grievances).

As for Darius, in this thread he sounds like a typical Israeli hater, who wants to “wipe out Israel from the map”, (digging out 3-year-old articles to “substantiate” his point), hence talking emotions rather then facts.
Darius, please don’t drive a car in the crowed of people to protest US government treatment of Muslims (like Mohammad Taheri of UNC). http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=3958312

Millions of people in the world have all kinds of grievances, and YES, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS to deal with grievances.
Better channel access of adrenaline into skydiving and other civilized activities.

R

[warpedskydiver 0]

As for Darius, in this thread he sounds like a typical Israeli hater, who wants to “wipe out Israel from the map”, (digging out 3-year-old articles to “substantiate” his point), hence talking emotions rather then facts.
Darius, please don’t drive a car in the crowed of people to protest US government treatment of Muslims (like Mohammad Taheri of UNC).

R

[Skyrad 0]

I agree with Falxori.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[falxori 0]

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Nice that you say that about someone you may not even know...Darius is not like that

Just as Darius says all Israelis are racist murderers who wants to kill Palestinians just for fun, and i doubt he has ever met one in person.

I don't have a problem with him hating israel and israelis, it is his right. i do have a problem with the half true, one sided views of the absolute blame of israel in this confilict that he's promoting.

O

"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

[Skyrad 0]

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Nice that you say that about someone you may not even know...Darius is not like that

Just as Darius says all Israelis are racist murderers who wants to kill Palestinians just for fun, and i doubt he has ever met one in person.

I don't have a problem with him hating israel and israelis, it is his right. i do have a problem with the half true, one sided views of the absolute blame of israel in this confilict that he's promoting.

O

Does Darius really say that??

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[warpedskydiver 0]

I am not saying anyone on here needs to agree with anyone...that would be boring as hell...

But I do think we need to refrain from implying someone has a terrorist mindset.

I may, or may not have more experience with Muslims, Arabs, the Middle East, and Terrorism than anyone else here... but i do know that unfair treatment will drive someone in that direction.

If even I can see through that maybe you guys can too

[Skyrad 0]

Hi Darius, do you really belive that all Israelis hate the Palistinians? I find that hard to belive. Have you ever heard of Gush Shalom?

Check it out...

[URL]http://gush-shalom.org/english/intro.html[/URL]

See also
[URL]http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/[/URL]

Also

[URL]http://www.batshalom.org./[/URL]

not forgetting...

[URL]http://www.icahd.org/eng/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.isra-pal-peace.ch/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.jfjfp.org/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.kibush.co.il/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.nimn.org/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.peacenow.org.il/site/he/homepage.asp[URL]

Not to mention those Jews that would rather go to prison than go to the Army..

[URL]http://www.yeshgvul.org/[/URL]

I'm not going to put any more links on here as I haven't got that much time and i'm sure you've all got enough to be getting on with. It pisses me off that people only ever seem to want to find that which divides us instead of that which we have in common. Shalom/Peace

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca